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L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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No one has mentioned this yet, but this is the absolutely pinnacle of bullshit. The Supreme Court essentially made bribery legal. The vote was along party lines, everyday there's something new in this country that affirms that the Republican party is dead to me. I don't care how you feel about Biden, decisions like this make Trump's Presidency the worst possible outcome for the longterm viability of the nation.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-public-corruption-bribery-89774f1e3cd6f1a353718b7ce3ff18a0
That's not so much allowing bribery as much as encouraging the layaway plan.

Someone needs to check if Clarence Thomas owns an escrow company.

The Supreme Court ruled that presidents have immunity for 'official' acts.

But, man, the dissenting opinion of Sotomayor is something else:

"Whether described as presumptive or absolute, under the majority’s rule, a President’s use of any official power for any purpose, even the most corrupt, is immune from prosecution. That is just as bad as it sounds, and it is baseless".

...

"Today’s decision to grant former Presidents immunity for their official acts is deeply wrong."

...

"When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune. Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.".

The anger is tangible.
Would Obama assassinating Trump be considered "official" or not for ex-presidential immunity?

He is rumored to be running the US right now and all...
 

Fab Fragment

Senior Member
Dec 22, 2018
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That's not so much allowing bribery as much as encouraging the layaway plan.

Someone needs to check if Clarence Thomas owns an escrow company.



Would Obama assassinating Trump be considered "official" or not for ex-presidential immunity?

He is rumored to be running the US right now and all...
Lol.
BTW, Obama looks quite emaciated in recent videos.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Small fish to fry but that’s what keeps you up at night.

that’s why I find it funny
The US Supreme Court is effectively dismantling your democracy.

I wouldn't find that funny if I were you.

Then again, I know why stuff like this matters and I can see why people without legal schooling would not realise this. I think you should probably read up on this before you make up your mind.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,702
The US Supreme Court is effectively dismantling your democracy.

I wouldn't find that funny if I were you.

Then again, I know why stuff like this mattersand I can see why people without legal schooling would not realise this. I think you should probably read up on this before you make up your mind.
Ah yes - the I’m a lawyer so I’ll talk down to you bit.

cool story bro. Don’t give a shit. fucking hilarious that you all get such a rise out of something you can’t control

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Supreme Court rules in your favor and it’s good. Rules in favor you don’t agree with and it’s wrong.

solid lawyering there

I’ll trust their judgement over yours
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Ah yes - the I’m a lawyer so I’ll talk down to you bit.

cool story bro. Don’t give a shit. fucking hilarious that you all get such a rise out of something you can’t control

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Supreme Court rules in your favor and it’s good. Rules in favor you don’t agree with and it’s wrong.

solid lawyering there

I’ll trust their judgement over yours
Read the dissenting opinions from the justices themselves. You'll see why they think it matters. You are underestimating just how much of an impact decisions by courts have on your everyday life.

It's not about the Supreme Court 'ruling in my favour'. Their recent decisions are simply outrageous in any democracy. They have effectively ruled that bribing them is legal and that the president is immune for prosecution.

If you don't give a shit about this, frankly, you are a goddamn moron. And that's putting it politely.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
I think you have this reversed, these issues are not "small fish." I don't see how you could justify making it easier for special interests to give money to politicians. This doesn't help any of us.
Because he doesn't realise what it's about.

He doesn't know anything about these decisions or their impact. He hasn't read them. He hasn't even read articles about them. He's going strictly on feel here and his feeling is that it doesn't matter to him.

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
Honestly, with every single piece of news, it just seems like we are setting ourselves up for a dictatorship, which is what the retards here truly want. The hardcore Trumpsters want it, the non-Israel ANTIFA folks want it.

If I didn’t know any better, it’s as if the powers that be want to throw us into utter chaos and eventual civil war.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,778
Some interesting questions on the web:
If you owned a company, would you hire either Biden or Trump?
I certainly won't.
Neither.

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Hust is the man, much more level headed than most, also keeps it civil and courteous, love my fellow deplorable
I was genuinely asking why these should be considered beneficial decisions for the public and why I would be overreacting. Feel free to give your reasoning if you'd like, I haven't heard it from anyone else.
 
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Hust is the man, much more level headed than most, also keeps it civil and courteous, love my fellow deplorable
He's flat out wrong here.

Judges usually take decisions in complex matters that really can be defended in both ways. Otherwise you wouldn't be in court. As a lawyer, I genuinely never shoot at the judge. They make decisions I simply have to understand.

These last few Supreme Court decisions are not like that. If a judge outright decides he can be bought, you can no longer trust his judgment. If a judge says a president can do whatever he wants with impunity, you no longer live in a democracy.

Biden could go out right now and shoot every justice that decided this way and declare he had to do it for the good of the country and this Supreme Court would have granted him immunity. For a country that has a 2nd amendement to allow civilians to defend themselves against kings and tyrants, this is incomprehensible.

This is the end of the USA as we know it.

But hur dur dur, why should we care, liberals angry, funny, hur dur dur. Man, you all truly deserve what you're getting.
 

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