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Apr 12, 2004
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Well, that's way too broad a statement.

I would argue there is a widening gap between age and intellect, and opportunity. The wealthy are much better equipped to become "traditionally" leaned, whereas schools in shitty locations are only getting worse and worse. The "difficulty" of public schools has gotten a lot easier. Large, prestigious universities are only getting more and more expensive and more selective.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Emotionally stunted sure, but there is no way that younger generations are less knowledgeable in general or less intellectually capable than older generations within the United States, aside from life experience for the obvious reason of that comes with age.

To be honest there has been a decline in literacy in a lot of countries recently, not just the US. It depends on what you define as knowledgeable. But being proficient in reading and writing is certainly part of it.

The question is more if this is something that the younger generation can be blamed for. I think definitely not, they did not choose the structure of their education.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Well, that's way too broad a statement.

I would argue there is a widening gap between age and intellect, and opportunity. The wealthy are much better equipped to become "traditionally" leaned, whereas schools in shitty locations are only getting worse and worse. The "difficulty" of public schools has gotten a lot easier. Large, prestigious universities are only getting more and more expensive and more selective.
This is true as well. We'll say for middle class and of course above.
To be honest there has been a decline in literacy in a lot of countries recently, not just the US. It depends on what you define as knowledgeable. But being proficient in reading and writing is certainly part of it.

The question is more if this is something that the younger generation can be blamed for. I think definitely not, they did not choose the structure of their education.
Prior or post pandemic?
 

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swag

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Emotionally stunted sure, but there is no way that younger generations are less knowledgeable in general or less intellectually capable than older generations within the United States, aside from life experience for the obvious reason of that comes with age.
Theoretically they shouldn't be. But you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth calling them a generation of digital wizards ... and then when they get to rely on that digital wizardry to advance their education under Covid, they turn into troglodytes.

Both claims are sweeping statements, btw, and both are patently false.
 

Cerval

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Getting closer to living in Putinville every day.

She thinks like a Jihadi

Instead of showing the other side arguments and rationale, both sides are doing these crybaby inflammatory trolling

Basically politics is becoming just one long dragged out trolling act with "got ya's" and "back at ya's"

And since social media in general is filled with major US thought processes, this culture spills in other countries including here in Canada

It's just a massive mess.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Theoretically they shouldn't be. But you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth calling them a generation of digital wizards ... and then when they get to rely on that digital wizardry to advance their education under Covid, they turn into troglodytes.

Both claims are sweeping statements, btw, and both are patently false.
Children require a certain amount of structure, and usually for it to be provided for them to do things they don't want to do. I don't think it makes much sense to expect school children to advance their own education. Did you do all of your homework as a child once you were outside of a classroom? I'd guess not, I know I certainly didn't. However, I'm willing to bet that children through young adults now have more general knowledge just based on casual exposure to different subjects and ease of accessibility to knowledge that would've previously required a lot more work to get to for their parents and grandparents. For anything beyond surface level knowledge though, there would have to be a "want" for it of course.
 

swag

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She thinks like a Jihadi

Instead of showing the other side arguments and rationale, both sides are doing these crybaby inflammatory trolling

Basically politics is becoming just one long dragged out trolling act with "got ya's" and "back at ya's"

And since social media in general is filled with major US thought processes, this culture spills in other countries including here in Canada

It's just a massive mess.
She trolls because she's been rewarded for it. That's all there is to it.

The bigger the trolling, the more votes and reelection funds she draws. That's the math.

Children require a certain amount of structure, and usually for it to be provided for them to do things they don't want to do. I don't think it makes much sense to expect school children to advance their own education. Did you do all of your homework as a child once you were outside of a classroom? I'd guess not, I know I certainly didn't. However, I'm willing to bet that children through young adults now have more general knowledge just based on casual exposure to different subjects and ease of accessibility to knowledge that would've previously required a lot more work to get to for their parents and grandparents. For anything beyond surface level knowledge though, there would have to be a "want" for it of course.
Classrooms in grade school, no. But then I finished classwork typically before everyone else and caused trouble, so they exiled me as much as they could. By the time I was in college my freshman year, when I had a physics professor who was piss poor, I would show up for the first few minutes of class if there was a pop quiz... and I would leave if not. I would go to an empty auditorium nearby and study it myself, because I knew I was better than the schmuck instructing the course. And I got a number of classmates to join me. All of us would stand up five minutes into class and leave when no quiz was announced that day.

We had some of the best grades in the class.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Getting closer to living in Putinville every day.

:lol2:

What a dumb bitch.

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She thinks like a Jihadi

Instead of showing the other side arguments and rationale, both sides are doing these crybaby inflammatory trolling

Basically politics is becoming just one long dragged out trolling act with "got ya's" and "back at ya's"

And since social media in general is filled with major US thought processes, this culture spills in other countries including here in Canada

It's just a massive mess.
Go look at my and Seven's discussion on news in the US a couple pages back, it's the same shit.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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They don't even think about their own failures. They don't even consider them.

This new generation is poorly educated. But who is doing the educating?
:agree:

Who is doing the educating and who raised these young people to be so pathetic, entitled, and completely unable to deal with sort of adversity and hardship in life.

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Did you see the Roald Dahl censorship controversy? The man was a racist, bigoted scumbag, but all the same he wrote wonderful children’s literature.

And now this: https://www.city-journal.org/bowdlerizing-roald-dahl

Literally the most insane book rewrite censorship ever. They took out words like men, mother, father, etc to be more “inclusive” lol.

Mummy’s dressing table” has become “the dressing table,” and “father’s toolshed” has become “the toolshed,” to avoid any suggestion that mummies and daddies just might have different tastes or priorities. “Maybe that will brighten up those horrid brown teeth of hers” is now “Maybe that would brighten up her smile,” to avoid the dreadful sin of aesthetic preference. “Waving her fat arms” becomes “Waving her arms” to avoid the judgment that fatness in arms is not attractive. “Ladies and gentlemen” becomes “folks.”

These people are insane :lol2:

From another article on it:

The word "black" was removed from the description of the terrible tractors in 1970s The Fabulous Mr. Fox. The machines are now simply "murderous, brutal-looking monsters."

Wat? :lol2:
 
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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:agree:

Who is doing the educating and who raised these young people to be so pathetic, entitled, and completely unable to deal with sort of adversity and hardship in life.

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Did you see the Roald Dahl censorship controversy? The man was a racist, bigoted scumbag, but all the same he wrote wonderful children’s literature.

And now this: https://www.city-journal.org/bowdlerizing-roald-dahl

Literally the most insane book rewrite censorship ever. They took out words like men, mother, father, etc to be more “inclusive” lol.

Mummy’s dressing table” has become “the dressing table,” and “father’s toolshed” has become “the toolshed,” to avoid any suggestion that mummies and daddies just might have different tastes or priorities. “Maybe that will brighten up those horrid brown teeth of hers” is now “Maybe that would brighten up her smile,” to avoid the dreadful sin of aesthetic preference. “Waving her fat arms” becomes “Waving her arms” to avoid the judgment that fatness in arms is not attractive. “Ladies and gentlemen” becomes “folks.”

These people are insane :lol2:

From another article on it:

The word "black" was removed from the description of the terrible tractors in 1970s The Fabulous Mr. Fox. The machines are now simply "murderous, brutal-looking monsters."

Wat? :lol2:

It's probably just a marketing ploy to be honest.

Most publishers in other languages have already announced they won't change his books. There's also the question if it's even legal to do so. The author has moral rights over his work. To completely change it after his death and still attribute it to him seems wrong.

I think the Oompa Loompas were changed with his consent. They were originally pygmies and we can all see the issue with pygmy slaves. But changing things without the author agreeing... That is just not right.
 

Vlad

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:agree:

Who is doing the educating and who raised these young people to be so pathetic, entitled, and completely unable to deal with sort of adversity and hardship in life.

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Did you see the Roald Dahl censorship controversy? The man was a racist, bigoted scumbag, but all the same he wrote wonderful children’s literature.

And now this: https://www.city-journal.org/bowdlerizing-roald-dahl

Literally the most insane book rewrite censorship ever. They took out words like men, mother, father, etc to be more “inclusive” lol.

Mummy’s dressing table” has become “the dressing table,” and “father’s toolshed” has become “the toolshed,” to avoid any suggestion that mummies and daddies just might have different tastes or priorities. “Maybe that will brighten up those horrid brown teeth of hers” is now “Maybe that would brighten up her smile,” to avoid the dreadful sin of aesthetic preference. “Waving her fat arms” becomes “Waving her arms” to avoid the judgment that fatness in arms is not attractive. “Ladies and gentlemen” becomes “folks.”

These people are insane :lol2:

From another article on it:

The word "black" was removed from the description of the terrible tractors in 1970s The Fabulous Mr. Fox. The machines are now simply "murderous, brutal-looking monsters."

Wat? :lol2:
I chuckled at this:
And being against the death penalty as we are, surely “Off with his head!” should now be “Give him community service!”

Ffs those people :lol2:
 

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