'Murica! (138 Viewers)
- Thread starter Fake Melo
- Start date
- Tags afl_italia's cousins forza trump smocking gun
We already have a plethora of social programs and spend something like 30% of our GDP on social expenditure, which is just a few ticks short of France. We have a central bank that manages and controls all facets of monetary policy that basically dictates economic policy and funds massive government deficits so we can run all these social programs. Sounds pretty socialist to me. Even Bernie Sanders says the US is already a socialist nation!
Everyone who uses the word needs to fully know what it means to its core. Hint, not same as social democracies, who are all capitalist nations with free market economies (some of these countries economies more capitalist then the US).
And hopefully stop misusing it for misguided agenda driven rhetorics. The cold war been irrelevant for half a century. Time to upgrade the absolete boogeyman propaganda terms.
P.S. And no the US is not a socialist nation. Are you insane.
Last edited:
I know it's faux pas for capitalist pigs like myself to even begin to mutter the beloved word socialism, or any of it's variances. But we basically already have a hybrid-like system here; it's surely not pure capitalism and cannot be due to the simple fact we have a managed economy through a central bank and government intertwined with essentially all industry.
- - - Updated - - -
Turns out this is the same guy who targeted conservatives at the Obama IRS.
- - - Updated - - -
Turns out this is the same guy who targeted conservatives at the Obama IRS.
Last edited:
I think a purely capitalist society would be a pretty hardcore failure. You have to have some social safety net. Imagine the chaos if you had to pay for medical care out of pocket and things like social security, the police, or automobile insurance didn’t exist.
Mogadishu looked real cool in black hawk down but I can’t imagine it’s very fun to live there in real life
Mogadishu looked real cool in black hawk down but I can’t imagine it’s very fun to live there in real life
You mean just like Trump took all the credit for booming economy which already started under Obama.
The media didn't do anything, you can't go on and attack and insult everyone who calls you on your bullshit... Lately he even started to attack Fox News.
Yet, he and his administration refused any meeting with guy who tried to warn them about lack of protection equipment who wanted to ramp up production right at the start of the pandemic.
I dont mind paying my taxes in Denmark. I pay my taxes now, someone gets free chemo therapy, a prosthetic or an intubator due to covid complications. Someone poor gets to go to college and start climbing thw social ladder and a single mom somewhere gets her kids taken care of in a good institution.
When Im old and unable to earn enough someone else pays for my shit
Only thing that pisses me off is when individuals are corrupt and steal from that pool or when its missmanaged. But every system has some spillage, the one we have here enables those who have the least to progress.
Sendt fra min CLT-L29 med Tapatalk
When Im old and unable to earn enough someone else pays for my shit
Only thing that pisses me off is when individuals are corrupt and steal from that pool or when its missmanaged. But every system has some spillage, the one we have here enables those who have the least to progress.
Sendt fra min CLT-L29 med Tapatalk
I dont mind paying my taxes in Denmark. I pay my taxes now, someone gets free chemo therapy, a prosthetic or an intubator due to covid complications. Someone poor gets to go to college and start climbing thw social ladder and a single mom somewhere gets her kids taken care of in a good institution.
When Im old and unable to earn enough someone else pays for my shit
Only thing that pisses me off is when individuals are corrupt and steal from that pool or when its missmanaged. But every system has some spillage, the one we have here enables those who have the least to progress.
Sendt fra min CLT-L29 med Tapatalk
When Im old and unable to earn enough someone else pays for my shit
Only thing that pisses me off is when individuals are corrupt and steal from that pool or when its missmanaged. But every system has some spillage, the one we have here enables those who have the least to progress.
Sendt fra min CLT-L29 med Tapatalk
Else Sanders would've run instead of Biden
So let them keep their way aka "as long as I'm fine it's all good" but once you're in need there you go your money,house and whatever
that unless you're rich enough to not give a fuck right?
That's what every administration does. Most economic change takes years. For all we know Trump hugely benefitted from Obama's presidency.
That's part of what makes it so difficult to see whether or not someone was in fact a good president.
My biggest issue with Trump has always been the message he conveys, that it is just fine to be racist and ignorant and that you don't need to have any moral fibre whatsoever.
I just don't think it's healthy to have that type of person be your leader, the guy everyone looks up to.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk
That's part of what makes it so difficult to see whether or not someone was in fact a good president.
My biggest issue with Trump has always been the message he conveys, that it is just fine to be racist and ignorant and that you don't need to have any moral fibre whatsoever.
I just don't think it's healthy to have that type of person be your leader, the guy everyone looks up to.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6003 met Tapatalk
I'd say its a mixed bag.
Profitting from Obama, not sure but certainly possible
Neglectic climate to a large degree and returning to coal, boost fracking etc, will obviously have a direct effect "but at what cost"
The stance against china will hurt the US short term, and even beyond a 2nd legislature if he had won. However for europe and the developping counties around china, its a big gain in the long term.
I still find Trump to be balancing on the line between blatantly bafooning out stuff, and actual racism. He's got ALOT of votes from the latino and male african american community in non deep blue states. Ergo the non anal challenged sensitive kind. Those would absolutely not vote him if he was actualy racist.
Actually, the hodge twins are a nice example of what they consider racism and blatantly speaking out loud without a shred of correctness
Profitting from Obama, not sure but certainly possible
Neglectic climate to a large degree and returning to coal, boost fracking etc, will obviously have a direct effect "but at what cost"
The stance against china will hurt the US short term, and even beyond a 2nd legislature if he had won. However for europe and the developping counties around china, its a big gain in the long term.
I still find Trump to be balancing on the line between blatantly bafooning out stuff, and actual racism. He's got ALOT of votes from the latino and male african american community in non deep blue states. Ergo the non anal challenged sensitive kind. Those would absolutely not vote him if he was actualy racist.
Actually, the hodge twins are a nice example of what they consider racism and blatantly speaking out loud without a shred of correctness
Trump ran an interesting campaign. He was rewarded for being more of a dictator than perhaps even he wanted to portray at first. And he loved it and realized the more he wallowed in it, the more people ate it up. It almost worked.
It was always going to work for about half his base that prefer authoritarian states regardless. But the other half wasn't enough to carry him over the line this time. Meanwhile, I see Blacks and Latinas are sniping each other over who deserves more credit for the Biden victory when it was basically white men who were far and away the biggest flippers on Trump between 2016 and 2020. But nobody is perhaps allowed to talk about that.
Trump is still president, tho, last I checked.
And you can feel better knowing that I still don't see how a vaccine -- even one with 90% success -- gets society pretending it's 2019 again any time soon.
I'm also not sure how you can blame the media for perceptions on Trump when all the lazy media does these days is cite public tweets now. Both the journalists and the media consumers have abdicated any analysis or debate. Basically you could bypass it all and just follower Twitter, because you don't need media companies to do that for you.
Merrick Garland says "hi".
So does that make Trump a socialist president?
And it breathes the same oxygen as me without paying me for it, dammit!!
It was always going to work for about half his base that prefer authoritarian states regardless. But the other half wasn't enough to carry him over the line this time. Meanwhile, I see Blacks and Latinas are sniping each other over who deserves more credit for the Biden victory when it was basically white men who were far and away the biggest flippers on Trump between 2016 and 2020. But nobody is perhaps allowed to talk about that.
Trump is still president, tho, last I checked.
And you can feel better knowing that I still don't see how a vaccine -- even one with 90% success -- gets society pretending it's 2019 again any time soon.
I'm also not sure how you can blame the media for perceptions on Trump when all the lazy media does these days is cite public tweets now. Both the journalists and the media consumers have abdicated any analysis or debate. Basically you could bypass it all and just follower Twitter, because you don't need media companies to do that for you.
Merrick Garland says "hi".
So does that make Trump a socialist president?
And it breathes the same oxygen as me without paying me for it, dammit!!