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pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
They go to work in the morning ?
Their faces (less aesthetically pleasing or less symmetry, like cousins did it a few gens ago plus prolly diet), gaze and expressions are different. Tend to be heavier set.

Diff hair and facial hair sometimes esp with men and middle+ aged ladies. Tend to be louder. What they're wearing and how they're wearing can also be diff. They look at people and things for a longer time like it takes them longer to process something or wasn't taught to not stare (this last bit is true with another demographic too).

Generally, what they observe and what piques their interest or catches their attn can be diff too. And other little things like what they drive, what they order, how they speak, etc. But generally you can tell right away from first glance at their face.
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,262
I think you're missing my point. If there is any kind of suspected fraud in any form, be it the claim where more votes have been cast than voters registered, or dead people voting, or claims of stifling the ability to observe the counts it is entirely reasonable to want to investigate that claim and no, looking to twitter or Facebook to do that for you is foolish.

If people are forced take social medias word for anything, all the more reason to find it suspect considering their agenda has been pretty clear as of late.
It's pretty much common knowledge that the social media tech firms target conservatives regardless of whether what they post is factual or not. They ban people for creating certain memes, but then they allow users to post shit like everyone is racist and fascist without any proof, so they're hardly a credible source as well.

If there is suspected fraud then it should be investigated. If there isn't any evidence, then they should let it go. This whole count mail-in votes here but not elsewhere is ridiculous even to me, unless there is something we don't know.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Their faces (less aesthetically pleasing or less symmetry, like cousins did it a few gens ago plus prolly diet), gaze and expressions are different. Tend to be heavier set.

Diff hair and facial hair sometimes esp with men and middle+ aged ladies. Tend to be louder. What they're wearing and how they're wearing can also be diff. They look at people and things for a longer time like it takes them longer to process something or wasn't taught to not stare (this last bit is true with another demographic too).

Generally, what they observe and what piques their interest or catches their attn can be diff too. And other little things like what they drive, what they order, etc. But generally you can tell right away from first glance at their face.

Arent you describing the general harworking american boomer now ?


One thing i dislike. and i'm not saying you do it, but i just think of it, is how alot of pro democratic people really look down on the blue collar working class.

As a white collar engineer, its the blue collars who build, maintain and improve our world. I dont like this looking down.

I'll rant about small minded house wifes and karen's tho.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Arent you describing the general harworking american boomer now ?


One thing i dislike. and i'm not saying you do it, but i just think of it, is how alot of pro democratic people really look down on the blue collar working class.

As a white collar engineer, its the blue collars who build, maintain and improve our world. I dont like this looking down.

I'll rant about small minded house wifes and karen's tho.
Has nothing to do with blue collar. Blue collar isn't just one demographic.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
agreed, but trump needs to prove that there could be fraud, he can’t just say it. And so far, he hasn’t proven anything.

maybe his lawyers will, but him tweeting about it is just serving to rile up assholes who go to the centers and scream “stop counting”
I agree and I think that's what should be coming-out in any legal proceedings. He should let the lawyers do the talking now and focus on his job for however long he has left to do it. If he wins, he wins, if not then he will just have to bugger off in January admitting defeat.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,542
PA is shaping up to be a very interesting race. Trump leads by 2% and there are 16% of votes yet to be counted.

the interesting part is that the votes to be counted are ballots which iirc, skew 70% or so dem. So 70% of 16 would be approximately 11, which would put Biden ahead.

edit: nvm, 13% of the vote still needs to be counted, not 16. Either way, Biden would still have the upper hand
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,262
The first thing I noticed when I first went to the US (apart from all the fat people unfortunately) was just how different customer service was over there. I guess it's friendly, but to a European it comes across as very pushy. Almost invasive.

We kind of expect not to be noticed, until we're at the cash register.
Different cultures. Since the wait staff earns tips in the US, they may become what you call pushy in some instances. We're used to that here. When I go to Europe, especially places like France, I dislike the lack of promptness especially when I want another drink because I'm not used to it, but I do enjoy the feeling of taking my time, being invisible, and letting the food speak for itself.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
It's pretty much common knowledge that the social media tech firms target conservatives regardless of whether what they post is factual or not. They ban people for creating certain memes, but then they allow users to post shit like everyone is racist and fascist without any proof, so they're hardly a credible source as well.

If there is suspected fraud then it should be investigated. If there isn't any evidence, then they should let it go. This whole count mail-in votes here but not elsewhere is ridiculous even to me, unless there is something we don't know.
And that's my point. Brutto gave me some "fact check" sites and I get to the bottom and see the editors note saying they paired up with FB. I'm sorry, any tech company in social media that censors blatantly is not helping at all.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,262
Tbilisi is an amazing city. Everyone should visit Georgia the country, it's a really cool place.
Always wanted to visit there because it seems "cool." How do Georgians feel about American visitors?

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And that's my point. Brutto gave me some "fact check" sites and I get to the bottom and see the editors note saying they paired up with FB. I'm sorry, any tech company in social media that censors blatantly is not helping at all.
Where were all the fact checkers during Russiagate and Racism-everywhere-gate? Oh that's right, you can't really fact check those, can ya...
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,350
Different cultures. Since the wait staff earns tips in the US, they may become what you call pushy in some instances. We're used to that here. When I go to Europe, especially places like France, I dislike the lack of promptness especially when I want another drink because I'm not used to it, but I do enjoy the feeling of taking my time, being invisible, and letting the food speak for itself.
Yeah, it's just different. After a few weeks in the US you get used to it and actually like the attention. But like you say, sometimes it's nice not to be noticed.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,262
Yeah, it's just different. After a few weeks in the US you get used to it and actually like the attention. But like you say, sometimes it's nice not to be noticed.
I also notice how "average" restaurants in Europe are generally much better than "average" restaurants in the US. When you walk around Paris or Barcelona, walk into random places, you'll generally be at least satisfied with your plate. You can't really do that here unless you're in certain cities or areas, but I'm a food snob according to other Americans.
 

Juventus 32

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May 18, 2014
4,222
Is there any chance for new elections in the contested states? Without the mail voting of course, that would be an epic fight lol

Even if Trump loses he will not concede, and will make sure to his supporters that the electons were stolen from him. Also if Biden/Harris fail, I bet Trump will try again in 2024.

And the elections will be much interesting in the coming years.
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,350
I also notice how "average" restaurants in Europe are generally much better than "average" restaurants in the US. When you walk around Paris or Barcelona, walk into random places, you'll generally be at least satisfied with your plate. You can't really do that here unless you're in certain cities or areas, but I'm a food snob according to other Americans.
Honestly I think most American food is horrendous.

Don't get me wrong, I like stuff like burgers or ribs or steaks as much as anyone. And I think a lot of American beers are just fine if you want something cool during the summer. But overall the quality is really lacking. And I think it has a lot to do with the way food is produced and the ingredients American chefs are provided with. We drink way too much coke as well, but at least there's actual sugar in the coke we drink. We overproduce meat and we overproduce cheese, but at least we eat actual meat and actual cheese.

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Just like the same foundation was laid with Russiagate and Trump is a white supremacist every day since the previous election. That is election meddling in my book as well.
That's not really true. That would be smearing your opponent, which isn't nice, but it isn't meddling. Trying to stop votes from being counted is nothing short of dictatorial though and tells you all you need to know about Trump.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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Honestly I think most American food is horrendous.

Don't get me wrong, I like stuff like burgers or ribs or steaks as much as anyone. And I think a lot of American beers are just fine if you want something cool during the summer. But overall the quality is really lacking. And I think it has a lot to do with the way food is produced and the ingredients American chefs are provided with. We drink way too much coke as well, but at least there's actual sugar in the coke we drink. We overproduce meat and we overproduce cheese, but at least we eat actual meat and actual cheese.
I don't know if you've been to Texas but my mannn, I swear they have the most delicious food I've ever tried.
 

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