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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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So true.

American customer (call her Karen): "It's been two minutes! I know it's 3am on Christmas Eve, but screw your kids and your baby sitter. I demand service NOW!"

European customer (or is that employee?): "OK, so while you're working on that, I'll go out for a coffee, maybe a beer, followed by a cocktail at the disco. And after sleep some breakfast and coffee ... and maybe a long walk with a good cigarette in between. Maybe we'll talk again Wednesday."
The first thing I noticed when I first went to the US (apart from all the fat people unfortunately) was just how different customer service was over there. I guess it's friendly, but to a European it comes across as very pushy. Almost invasive.

We kind of expect not to be noticed, until we're at the cash register.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Ok. lol
what’s the source on the votes being higher than the # of registered voters?

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The first thing I noticed when I first went to the US (apart from all the fat people unfortunately) was just how different customer service was over there. I guess it's friendly, but to a European it comes across as very pushy. Almost invasive.

We kind of expect not to be noticed, until we're at the cash register.
the waiters/waitresses here are the fucking worst. They stop by every five minutes to either get you to order more shit or leave. In Europe, they forget you’re even there. I prefer that
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,350
This is such an American way of thinking. IMO, I kinda think it's a sickness and needs to be put in the grave. The endless pursuit of efficiency and "always on" culture is turning humans into robots.

Crap, I am turning French, not Portuguese...

There has never been a point in the history of mankind at which it has been so easy to produce food or provide shelter.

Working more now than ever before makes no sense.

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the waiters/waitresses here are the fucking worst. They stop by every five minutes to either get you to order more shit or leave. In Europe, they forget you’re even there. I prefer that
Italian waiters in smaller Italian cities are the best. You order something and they say no, don't order this. Then they tell you what to order.

And it's the best meal you've had in forever.
 

RoiLezard

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Apr 7, 2018
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what’s the source on the votes being higher than the # of registered voters?

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the waiters/waitresses here are the fucking worst. They stop by every five minutes to either get you to order more shit or leave. In Europe, they forget you’re even there. I prefer that
I feel in Canada it’s the same as Europe even though we’re more or less Americanised when it comes to certain habits.


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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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There are obvious differences between US and Japanese work culture. Firstly is the idea of individual vs collective mindset in the two societies. You tend to not think for yourself in Japan, but follow the protocol or hierarchy. You become a little soldier working toward the same goal. There is also the notion of getting a good job, perhaps even for life, and being treated well as long as you work hard. Training and upwards employment from within is still very important in Japanese culture.

In law there is a contracted 40 hour week the same as you might have in the US (also here in the UK), but in general if you work in a bigger city, a more prestigious job will be pressurised and with more responsibility, so people can often work 50 or 60 hours easily, the same as they might in similar jobs in the US or Europe. And forget taking your contracted time off, you get treated like a leper.

I think the idea of working less than 50 hours is a bit of a myth, truth be told. It is stressful to the point where it has become a national mental health crisis, and some people even die from exhaustion, which seems ridiculous in the 21st century. So I wouldn't say they do a good job with it, it's toxic on a human level. But as time progresses and young people fight against the old Showa era mindset, there has been some change with the government passing laws forcing companies to allot so many sick or vacation days to employees, to align more with the 40 hour contract, even some talk of certain companies trialling 4-day working weeks.
I'm spending an average of 55houres at work, the dutch part of belgium generally scores very high in that.

The us works perhaps long houres but the productivity per day is actually not that high. Especially compared to Flanders or Japan
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I'm spending an average of 55houres at work, the dutch part of belgium generally scores very high in that.

The us works perhaps long houres but the productivity per day is actually not that high. Especially compared to Flanders or Japan
It's productivity that is key, not so much hours. Some people do stupid things like 70 hour weeks but it really depends what your job is.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I think you're missing my point. If there is any kind of suspected fraud in any form, be it the claim where more votes have been cast than voters registered, or dead people voting, or claims of stifling the ability to observe the counts it is entirely reasonable to want to investigate that claim and no, looking to twitter or Facebook to do that for you is foolish.

If people are forced take social medias word for anything, all the more reason to find it suspect considering their agenda has been pretty clear as of late.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
It's productivity that is key, not so much hours. Some people do stupid things like 70 hour weeks but it really depends what your job is.
Sr optical test engineer for 3d metal printing. Our US based owners (we used to be a leuven startup) deciced that the lower revenue , caused by typical us management not listening to R&D), should be compensated by cutting the personel

So basically we now do 2.5x the work, or multitask
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,542
I think you're missing my point. If there is any kind of suspected fraud in any form, be it the claim where more votes have been cast than voters registered, or dead people voting, or claims of stifling the ability to observe the counts it is entirely reasonable to want to investigate that claim and no, looking to twitter or Facebook to do that for you is foolish.

If people are forced take social medias word for anything, all the more reason to find it suspect considering their agenda has been pretty clear as of late.
agreed, but trump needs to prove that there could be fraud, he can’t just say it. And so far, he hasn’t proven anything.

maybe his lawyers will, but him tweeting about it is just serving to rile up assholes who go to the centers and scream “stop counting”
 

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