'Murica! (225 Viewers)

[Juventus 32]

Oh please, the alt right and Trump are easily as bad with their own moronic “ideological lunacy.”

To quote your favourite retard, “the cure can’t be worse than the virus.”

And Trump is far worse, given the shithole your nation has turned into during his presidency. But keep up that #winning. Amazing how anyone could celebrate winning with 205,000 dead from Covid (over 20% of the entire world death toll), Race riots around the country with the president constantly pouring gas on the fire, and massive climate-change fueled wildfires all over the west while the president denies that climate change is even real. Trump’s MAGA has America looking like it’s in the middle of an apocalypse and y’all on the right are celebrating like you’re winning.

I guess there is absolutely no low the retards out on the Trump-ist right won’t stoop to.

I never seen these "alt right" hating everything America stands for (basic freedoms, constitution, capitalism, the new world etc),burning American flags turning them upside down, pissing on heritage and people that have given their lives for that country, attacking the institutions, and much more and ready to burn the whole country to the ground tomorrow...

Why does the Democratic Party turn a blind eye on this?

No matter how idiotic trash ignorant retarded conservative conspiracists lunatic backwards the right-wingers can be,they are not the types that wish America (and what it stands for) ill,like the lunatics above.

 

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[Post Ironic]

I never seen these "alt right" hating everything America stands for (basic freedoms, constitution, capitalism, the new world etc),burning American flags turning them upside down, pissing on heritage and people that have given their lives for that country, attacking the institutions, and much more and ready to burn the whole country to the ground tomorrow...

Why does the Democratic Party turn a blind eye on this?

No matter how idiotic trash ignorant retarded conservative conspiracists lunatic backwards the right-wingers can be,they are not the types that wish America (and what it stands for) ill,like the lunatics above.

You mean the right wing Trump supporters who are talking about how excited they are about shooting minorities during the upcoming “race war”? Yeah. They are just what America stands for, I guess. True patriots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/25/wilmington-racist-police-recording/

And please, half these imbeciles out on the far right only believe in “freedom” for themselves and their ideological allies/other whites.

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Myself and other Moderate “lefties” here at least criticize and bash the moronic woke SJWs too. You and the few other Trump supporters literally defend every absurd, crass, retarded lie he tells and shit he pulls. Maybe some objectivity and self-awareness would be helpful if y’all don’t want to alienate everyone in the middle as badly as those fuckwits on the opposite side do.

 

[Bjerknes]

Nobody here is defending racist stuff like killing black people or advocating a race war. The vast majority of "Trump supporters" just want to be left alone and have a decent economy. Has nothing to with race, and hence why Trump garners even more support because people are tired of this shit.

 

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Nobody here is defending racist stuff like killing black people or advocating a race war. The vast majority of "Trump supporters" just want to be left alone and have a decent economy. Has nothing to with race, and hence why Trump garners even more support because people are tired of this shit.

Says the guy who called lgortudor’s troll post about rooftop Koreans genociding black people to get rid of crime the best post here.

‘Twas likely a joke, but that’s pretty fucking tasteless.

As I said, some self-awareness and ability to criticize your own “side” for shit behaviour would be appropriate here, the rest of us seem able to. So maybe y’all should stop going on and on about Trump’s BS triggering libs when you get triggered by AOC and other far more irrelevant peeps.

Just my opinion. And I actually value your posts even if I detest some of your viewpoints, because you actually present them with arguments in their favour and try to show why you support them, unlike the ninnies who just post memes and twitter vids without context to say “Hurr durr libs evil, trump good”

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Well it's good that at least the republicans on here are only concentrated on cold hard facts and debating about policy rather than wasting precious energy on any of that silly stuff. Imagine if we had two parties that were only concentrated on what the opposition says or does wrong. Would be a total chaos.

At least we got a direct stake in this, imagine getting super worked up about the politics of a country that's not even yours i don't know about you but I got a million better things to do.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

If there's room left in this thread for something that isn't pointless back and forth:

Pelosi says Democrats unveil new COVID-19 aid bill

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Monday that Democratic lawmakers unveiled a new, $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill, which she said was a compromise measure that reduces the costs of the economic aid.

In a letter to Democratic lawmakers released by Pelosi’s office, she said the legislation “includes new funding needed to avert catastrophe for schools, small businesses, restaurants, performance spaces, airline workers and others.”

“Democrats are making good on our promise to compromise with this updated bill,” she said. “We have been able to make critical additions and reduce the cost of the bill by shortening the time covered for now.”

Pelosi in recent days has said she thinks a deal can be reached with the White House on a new coronavirus relief package and that talks were continuing. But she also said that she would offer legislation if the impasse continued with the Trump administration over the size and shape of another relief package.

She did not say when there would be a vote on the latest Democratic proposal.

Formal talks among Pelosi, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, Mnuchin and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows aimed at hammering out a relief package broke down on Aug. 7 with the two sides far apart.

Pelosi and Mnuchin spoke by phone on Sunday and again on Monday. They plan to speak again on Tuesday morning, her spokesman said.

Pelosi and Schumer initially sought a $3.4 trillion relief package, then said some time ago they were willing to scale that back by at least a trillion dollars. But it was not clear whether the White House would consider the $2.2 trillion sum proposed in the new legislation. Meadows has said that Trump would be willing to sign a $1.3 trillion relief package.

Pelosi also faces pressure from moderate House Democrats who say they want to see bipartisan aid proposals that have a chance of becoming law.

The new proposal included $436 billion for state and local governments, as well as money for education, testing, airline industry workers and for a small business loan program known as the Paycheck Protection Program, a statement from House Democrats said.

It would also provide a new round of direct payments to Americans of $1,200 per taxpayer and restore federal unemployment benefits of $600 a week through January.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ts-unveil-new-covid-19-aid-bill-idUSKBN26J38T

As much as I think it would benefit Trump and the Republicans to get a bill like this passed and aid sent out, I'm still skeptical this'll pass for reasons that I apparently just don't get.

 

[Juventus 32]

Biden Dodged $500K In Taxes By Exploiting Loophole

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-dodged-500k-taxes-exploiting-loophole

Trump =

Biden =





Give him more, PLEASE!

And this was from two months ago,nada..nothing...nichts...niente....not a single flying fuck was given !
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-used-tax-code-loophole-obama-tried-to-plug-11562779300

"Rise your hand who paid more taxes than Amazon"

 

[il brutto]

At least we got a direct stake in this, imagine getting super worked up about the politics of a country that's not even yours i don't know about you but I got a million better things to do.

I also get "super worked" up about the football of a country that's not even mine

Seriously though I think you're full aware that the US presidential elections are major news internationally. It hardly takes much effort to follow them as they are broadly covered pretty much everywhere.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I also get "super worked" up about the football of a country that's not even mine

Seriously though I think you're full aware that the US presidential elections are major news internationally. It hardly takes much effort to follow them as they are broadly covered pretty much everywhere.

Good point lol though I actually never seen you super worked up yet.

 

[Hust]

If there's room left in this thread for something that isn't pointless back and forth:

Pelosi says Democrats unveil new COVID-19 aid bill



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ts-unveil-new-covid-19-aid-bill-idUSKBN26J38T

As much as I think it would benefit Trump and the Republicans to get a bill like this passed and aid sent out, I'm still skeptical this'll pass for reasons that I apparently just don't get.

You answered the last part in ur first sentence

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Nothing to see here.

https://gothamist.com/news/brooklyn..._twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

You answered the last part in ur first sentence

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Nothing to see here.

https://gothamist.com/news/brooklyn..._twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

I just saw a follow up to this 5 minutes before reading this post

Spoiler

 

[Bjerknes]

Says the guy who called lgortudor’s troll post about rooftop Koreans genociding black people to get rid of crime the best post here.

‘Twas likely a joke, but that’s pretty fucking tasteless.

As I said, some self-awareness and ability to criticize your own “side” for shit behaviour would be appropriate here, the rest of us seem able to. So maybe y’all should stop going on and on about Trump’s BS triggering libs when you get triggered by AOC and other far more irrelevant peeps.

Just my opinion. And I actually value your posts even if I detest some of your viewpoints, because you actually present them with arguments in their favour and try to show why you support them, unlike the ninnies who just post memes and twitter vids without context to say “Hurr durr libs evil, trump good”

If someone actually provides something reasonable to criticize him on, then sure, I will. It's not a secret that I dislike the spending even before covid, along with his some of his antics. But most of the time it's nonsense -- anything from taxes, to race issues, to Russian collusion. I'm fine with folks who don't like the response to covid, but it has to be reasonable, not putting up 200k dead banners blaming it all on Trump. The vast majority of my friends and family are lefties, so I get some of it. The difference is they don't have targets on their back because of their views, while others do.

And you're right, I really want to see black people gone. We can start with McKennie and Pogba!

 

[ALC]

Lol Mr.Smart and Humble strikes again

https://truthout.org/articles/tax-r...sury-to-stave-off-his-own-financial-disaster/

 

[Enron]

And this was from two months ago,nada..nothing...nichts...niente....not a single flying fuck was given !
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-used-tax-code-loophole-obama-tried-to-plug-11562779300

"Rise your hand who paid more taxes than Amazon"

Amazon never said they pay taxes.

 

[Bjerknes]

Can't wait for tonight.

 

[il brutto]

Amazon never said they pay taxes.

And I'm sure most people think that the big companies like Amazon should pay their fair share of taxes just like they think Trump should pay his.

It's not really that surprising that some people/companies with big resources look to avoid paying taxes. It's still a good bit of info for the voters though (if Trumps views on taxes weren't already clear).

 

[Bjerknes]

And I'm sure most people think that the big companies like Amazon should pay their fair share of taxes just like they think Trump should pay his.

It's not really that surprising that some people/companies with big resources look to avoid paying taxes. It's still a good bit of info for the voters though (if Trumps views on taxes weren't already clear).

What is the "fair share" of taxes everyone should pay? Should it be as simple as income alone, or are there other factors like the type of business you're in that should receive certain incentives? At the end of the day, taxation is nothing but state-sponsored theft because you don't have your say in how the money is spent, other than your vote which everyone says means something but statistically it does not.

 

[Hawaii Juve Fan]

Can't wait for tonight.

Now Biden just needs to wear sunglasses and have a couple of people to prop up his corpse Weekend at Bernie's style.

 

[il brutto]

What is the "fair share" of taxes everyone should pay? Should it be as simple as income alone, or are there other factors like the type of business you're in that should receive certain incentives? At the end of the day, taxation is nothing but state-sponsored theft because you don't have your say in how the money is spent, other than your vote which everyone says means something but statistically it does not.

What constitutes as a "fair share" of taxes will no doubt change depending the person you ask. Imo the tax rate of your average citizens shouldn't be considerably higher than it's for the wealthiest citizens.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/income-tax-rate-wealthy.html

 

[ALC]

Anyone wanna take bets on whether the trumpeter ends up in jail after his stint in the White House?

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...r-predicts-trump-charges-on-tax-evasion-after