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It will of course have to be extended, no? No way the country can handle the impending 30 million or whatever evictions actually happening.
I hope so at least. But if they just come up with some dumb out of touch shit like "lol just make two payments at once when it's over," then that isn't all that much better and just delaying the collapse.
 

Bjerknes

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Thankfully the institutions in this country actually work,
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I should've taken a job in finance. 150k people dead. Millions hospitalized, 11% unemployment, -32% GDP growth for Q2 of 2020 and yet the stock market chugs on as if nothing ever happened. Looks like money really does grow on trees.
Clearly you shouldn't work in finance then.

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I worry about what will happen when eviction protections expire. I think that'll be the spark to really set off a chain reaction in the global economy.
It may not, the Fed has promised to continue purchasing MBS.

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I can't be friends (or even maintain relationships with family/relatives) whose political opinions are extremely contrasting mine unless we don't talk politics, which never happens. Going after people's jobs and personal lives because they say things that may be offensive is vile and I find that disgusting, but from a mental health standpoint (lol) I choose to cut relationships with people whose stands or opinions on certain things don't align with what I value. I wish this wasn't the case though. I think it's a product of the political climate in Iran where I did end friendships and other relationships with people especially after the 2009 elections and the subsequent protests. I respect those who are not like me (in this regard) though, which is why I liked the article and is obviously why I respect you a lot too.
That doesn't sound very tolerant if you ask me. 95% of friends/family have contrasting views with mine. If you can't have a discussion with someone you know personally because of political differences, that sounds like cultist behavior. Sounds like half the country now.

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I foresee this guy being in a nursing home in the VERY near future. WTF.

"We we're gonna survive all the way through this whole thin..."

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king Ale

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Clearly you shouldn't work in finance then.

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It may not, the Fed has promised to continue purchasing MBS.

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That doesn't sound very tolerant if you ask me. 95% of friends/family have contrasting views with mine. If you can't have a discussion with someone you know personally because of political differences, that sounds like cultist behavior. Sounds like half the country now.

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I foresee this guy being in a nursing home in the VERY near future. WTF.

"We we're gonna survive all the way through this whole thin..."

:rofl:

I’m not very tolerant for views that are at a 180 degree angle to mine, I think that much is obvious but it’s limited to my personal life. I’m completely against denying people of their right to say whatever they want, and because it’s ultimately my problem if I find your views offensive, it’s on me to not engage rather than silencing you.
 

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I can't be friends (or even maintain relationships with family/relatives) whose political opinions are extremely contrasting mine unless we don't talk politics, which never happens. Going after people's jobs and personal lives because they say things that may be offensive is vile and I find that disgusting, but from a mental health standpoint (lol) I choose to cut relationships with people whose stands or opinions on certain things don't align with what I value. I wish this wasn't the case though. I think it's a product of the political climate in Iran where I did end friendships and other relationships with people especially after the 2009 elections and the subsequent protests. I respect those who are not like me (in this regard) though, which is why I liked the article and is obviously why I respect you a lot too.
That's the classic American Thanksgiving dinner test.

It's a little bit of a cop out to cut bait and run when we encounter uncomfortable things. Because if we do that, we stand to never face things like real racism, pandemics, economic hardships, and evil people with weapons. That's the extreme, and I'm not accusing you of being guilty of that -- you probably have lots of people with offensive views who refuse to engage in generative conversations. And for people with extreme viewpoints where there isn't the chance for mutual curiosity and learning, then it's just unhealthy negativism that diminishes your life and mental health. This is why people rightfully should block friends on Facebook who just spew inane stuff without a conversation.

But it's also a missed opportunity not to expose ourselves to different viewpoints and enter conversations with a curiosity to learn, to appreciate a broader perspective of why someone thinks the way they do even if you do not have any intention of agreeing with them. It's what's missing most in society now. It's not bilateral enough, but we can't just mutually stop trying.

I know a lot of people who have had to cut acquaintances and even former friends out of their lives because of political opinions. Sometimes it's sad and necessary. So I have no disrespect for someone who has to draw boundaries about what they do and don't find healthy when inviting it in their lives. It goes without saying I have great respect for how you recognize yourself and your own capacities and natural limits and how you express them. I appreciate the balance you bring between extreme views and how you recognize that even good ideologies taken to their extreme can be dangerous.

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Trying or not, AOC does do triggering well, like Trump. No wonder both are Twitter ninja masters.

I worry about what will happen when eviction protections expire. I think that'll be the spark to really set off a chain reaction in the global economy.
It's a cliff different places are going to hit at different times. I'm less concerned about its global effects being interconnected other than the virus impacts were global and each locality is going to have to deal with its own local eviction problems. Rent suspension just time-shifts the financial hole. And the state coming it to fill that hole is only a partial solution too ... there are still unsustainable financial effects in play where some people really will need to be evicted because they don't have viable economic prospects in the places they remain.

I’m not very tolerant for views that are at a 180 degree angle to mine, I think that much is obvious but it’s limited to my personal life. I’m completely against denying people of their right to say whatever they want, and because it’s ultimately my problem if I find your views offensive, it’s on me to not engage rather than silencing you.
But you also stand to learn and grow personally the most from views that are 180-degrees from yours, even if you detest them. Like Sun Tzu said, "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." ;) Of course, it doesn't reflect well when we have to use "Art of War" quotes on opposing views either... :p

But what you said is also a strategy I employ for every crazy person on the street I encounter: don't engage. Not the most sympathetic or empathetic response, but it's a personal survival one sometimes.

I made the same Bundy reference to CHOP.

s/CHOP/Portland/g.
 

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