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Mentally lazy people still buying this polarization narrative being force fed on us to manipulate us and to get us to stop thinking, eh? There are protestors, rioters, and looters, and that's a gross oversimplification right there. Conflating them allows people to fold everyone into convenient, conspiracy-theory-adjacent narratives about a singular group of one mind and one set of actions.
And in the process, people stop asking questions and just start assuming and looking for patterns to fit their biases. That's how you build a brain-dead, obedient public.
Not to mention that Trump is sending out feds -- many of them $35/hour Blackwater wannabe contractors -- to provoke violent responses, capture them on camera, and use them for his re-election. (Sorry, I don't think he cares enough to have the videos shared in this thread, but they will be anyway.)
You're right in that I wouldn't call them protestors. I think people are too soft and squishy with their definitions. People are conflating political moms with anarchist bombers who just want to blow stuff up now.
At the same time, there's a lot of people who need to be heard who haven't been heard ... for a long time. Ironically, a wholly different segment of Americans who fit that profile also put Trump in office. So whether it's "everything about the society is racist and victimizes me" or "rich coastal elites tell us how to live our lives while counting billions off of our backs and calling us 'fly-over'", the reasons are different but the grievances are almost the same.
The more that you can lump people together into a single amorphous mass, the more it allows you to diminish their humanity, the more you stop listening, the more your empathy for a fellow citizen goes out the window. This is the strategy,
Oh, and GWB got over a half million people killed over a fake war that cost billions of dollars and created ISIS/Daesh as our return on investment. Let's not give him a free pass because he's a cuddly old painter now.
And Republicans don't?
Merrick Garland says "hi" btw.
Because moderation isn't conflict. It's visually boring. Eyeballs are attracted to fire, flame, gunfights, smashing things, and conflicts. Money is made when everything looks like it is on fire. People get bored and turn off when it isn't.
All great examples of what I wrote above. People want a narrative like this, and they want people to repost things like this to popularize that singular narrative and foster more polarization. We're all puppets.
Because medicine has become politicized.
What I don't get is all this obsession about the media, and people are always talking about newspapers and television. Like anybody under the age of 50 is bothering with that anymore. Those models they keep pointing to are the dying hulks of previous generations, so I don't get why there's such an obsession over it.
Because there is no Mr. Science who definitively answers for everything. Science is built on an emergent consensus. That means you have to understand that while there are researchers who tell you coffee is the devil's brew and it will kill you, there will simultaneously be researchers who have studies that make them leap to the conclusion that you'll live to 200 drinking the stuff. There are always statistical anomalies, flaws in the experiments, lack of understanding of the experimental methods, and a human interpretation of data that will generate disagreement. That's part and parcel of the process.
But at some point, at the end you hope to get to a point where the earth isn't the center of the universe anymore.
Debates are so antiquated too. Who has the patience for that? Especially given media consumption habits. They should replace debates with quips and soundbytes, because that's all people want anyway. There is no debate.
And even with a debate, do we really care about the 2% of moron Americans who require two people standing at podiums mocking a high school debate class to sway their votes? And what good is a debate on the efficacy of a presidency anyway? That's like saying your surgeon is qualified because they have a certificate in hand-washing.
Big pharma is all part of the sick care conspiracy. Make money off of people remaining ill with chronic conditions. Cures are bad for business. This is why sick care and capitalism are a horrible combination that's parasitic to society. Capitalism cannot fix that. Markets cannot fix that. Governments need to intervene. Keeping people healthy and keeping them out of the health care system has to be the priority, and success at that must be financially rewarded. Otherwise the goals are aligned all wrong.
Per my above on debates, I care about a president who can speak live without a script about as much as I care for a president that can play harmonica. That's not really what I need the person to do in office.
I honestly have no clue why a politician -- any politician -- should ever wade in on medical opinions in the first place. I even have doubts if that person also happens to be an M.D., because their attention is obviously elsewhere now.
Well, other than Trump wanted to pump up the stock market and pretend that COVID would be magically treatable and would just disappear. He politicized that enough he is stuck with it now.
Nokia started as a paper pulp mill and later became a rubber company.
We could. But you kinda need to know what it looks like and how the molecules would interact with a human and a virus. This is pretty much the equivalent of saying, "Can't we just 3D print a human brain?" Yes, we could. But good luck on making it work the way you expect.
Mentally lazy people still buying this polarization narrative being force fed on us to manipulate us and to get us to stop thinking, eh? There are protestors, rioters, and looters, and that's a gross oversimplification right there. Conflating them allows people to fold everyone into convenient, conspiracy-theory-adjacent narratives about a singular group of one mind and one set of actions.
And in the process, people stop asking questions and just start assuming and looking for patterns to fit their biases. That's how you build a brain-dead, obedient public.
Not to mention that Trump is sending out feds -- many of them $35/hour Blackwater wannabe contractors -- to provoke violent responses, capture them on camera, and use them for his re-election. (Sorry, I don't think he cares enough to have the videos shared in this thread, but they will be anyway.)
You're right in that I wouldn't call them protestors. I think people are too soft and squishy with their definitions. People are conflating political moms with anarchist bombers who just want to blow stuff up now.
At the same time, there's a lot of people who need to be heard who haven't been heard ... for a long time. Ironically, a wholly different segment of Americans who fit that profile also put Trump in office. So whether it's "everything about the society is racist and victimizes me" or "rich coastal elites tell us how to live our lives while counting billions off of our backs and calling us 'fly-over'", the reasons are different but the grievances are almost the same.
The more that you can lump people together into a single amorphous mass, the more it allows you to diminish their humanity, the more you stop listening, the more your empathy for a fellow citizen goes out the window. This is the strategy,
Oh, and GWB got over a half million people killed over a fake war that cost billions of dollars and created ISIS/Daesh as our return on investment. Let's not give him a free pass because he's a cuddly old painter now.
And Republicans don't?
Merrick Garland says "hi" btw.Because moderation isn't conflict. It's visually boring. Eyeballs are attracted to fire, flame, gunfights, smashing things, and conflicts. Money is made when everything looks like it is on fire. People get bored and turn off when it isn't.
All great examples of what I wrote above. People want a narrative like this, and they want people to repost things like this to popularize that singular narrative and foster more polarization. We're all puppets.
Because medicine has become politicized.
What I don't get is all this obsession about the media, and people are always talking about newspapers and television. Like anybody under the age of 50 is bothering with that anymore. Those models they keep pointing to are the dying hulks of previous generations, so I don't get why there's such an obsession over it.
Because there is no Mr. Science who definitively answers for everything. Science is built on an emergent consensus. That means you have to understand that while there are researchers who tell you coffee is the devil's brew and it will kill you, there will simultaneously be researchers who have studies that make them leap to the conclusion that you'll live to 200 drinking the stuff. There are always statistical anomalies, flaws in the experiments, lack of understanding of the experimental methods, and a human interpretation of data that will generate disagreement. That's part and parcel of the process.
But at some point, at the end you hope to get to a point where the earth isn't the center of the universe anymore.
Debates are so antiquated too. Who has the patience for that? Especially given media consumption habits. They should replace debates with quips and soundbytes, because that's all people want anyway. There is no debate.
And even with a debate, do we really care about the 2% of moron Americans who require two people standing at podiums mocking a high school debate class to sway their votes? And what good is a debate on the efficacy of a presidency anyway? That's like saying your surgeon is qualified because they have a certificate in hand-washing.
Big pharma is all part of the sick care conspiracy. Make money off of people remaining ill with chronic conditions. Cures are bad for business. This is why sick care and capitalism are a horrible combination that's parasitic to society. Capitalism cannot fix that. Markets cannot fix that. Governments need to intervene. Keeping people healthy and keeping them out of the health care system has to be the priority, and success at that must be financially rewarded. Otherwise the goals are aligned all wrong.
Per my above on debates, I care about a president who can speak live without a script about as much as I care for a president that can play harmonica. That's not really what I need the person to do in office.
I honestly have no clue why a politician -- any politician -- should ever wade in on medical opinions in the first place. I even have doubts if that person also happens to be an M.D., because their attention is obviously elsewhere now.
Well, other than Trump wanted to pump up the stock market and pretend that COVID would be magically treatable and would just disappear. He politicized that enough he is stuck with it now.
Nokia started as a paper pulp mill and later became a rubber company.
Can't we just 3D print a vaccine?
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Too much to edit from all the quotes:
1.) Per the 3D print - wuz a joke sir but glad to know that it is potentially possible
2.) Per the science part - you have some pretty solid medical professionals coming out and saying get the politics out of the argument HCQ can work in some cases. And God forbid MDs say it publicly and the social media nazis disagree. You literally have politicians and social media denying the chance for a consensus to form because guess what, Trump said it. I would be willing to bet there are a LOT for doctors out there unwilling to speak up b/c of cancel culture and what the backlash on them would be like.
3.) No body likes losing, even Republicans, But you simply cannot compare what the Democrats have done since 2016 to what Republicans have done when they lost. There is no comparison.
1.) Per the 3D print - wuz a joke sir but glad to know that it is potentially possible
2.) Per the science part - you have some pretty solid medical professionals coming out and saying get the politics out of the argument HCQ can work in some cases. And God forbid MDs say it publicly and the social media nazis disagree. You literally have politicians and social media denying the chance for a consensus to form because guess what, Trump said it. I would be willing to bet there are a LOT for doctors out there unwilling to speak up b/c of cancel culture and what the backlash on them would be like.
3.) No body likes losing, even Republicans, But you simply cannot compare what the Democrats have done since 2016 to what Republicans have done when they lost. There is no comparison.
Too much to edit from all the quotes:
1.) Per the 3D print - wuz a joke sir but glad to know that it is potentially possible
2.) Per the science part - you have some pretty solid medical professionals coming out and saying get the politics out of the argument HCQ can work in some cases. And God forbid MDs say it publicly and the social media nazis disagree. You literally have politicians and social media denying the chance for a consensus to form because guess what, Trump said it. I would be willing to bet there are a LOT for doctors out there unwilling to speak up b/c of cancel culture and what the backlash on them would be like.
3.) No body likes losing, even Republicans, But you simply cannot compare what the Democrats have done since 2016 to what Republicans have done when they lost. There is no comparison.
1.) Per the 3D print - wuz a joke sir but glad to know that it is potentially possible
2.) Per the science part - you have some pretty solid medical professionals coming out and saying get the politics out of the argument HCQ can work in some cases. And God forbid MDs say it publicly and the social media nazis disagree. You literally have politicians and social media denying the chance for a consensus to form because guess what, Trump said it. I would be willing to bet there are a LOT for doctors out there unwilling to speak up b/c of cancel culture and what the backlash on them would be like.
3.) No body likes losing, even Republicans, But you simply cannot compare what the Democrats have done since 2016 to what Republicans have done when they lost. There is no comparison.
2) HCQ should be looked at. But it shouldn't be promoted as a miracle cure without it. Using treatments off-label is legal, as @GordoDeCentral correctly pointed out to me.
But promoting them for untested applications is not, and with good reason. Just because bleach works great on viruses doesn't exactly mean a president should be advocating a bleach cleanse. Who knows, maybe there's a scientific way to make it safe and effective with the right reagents and buffers ... but that has to be tested before lives are entrusted with it.But this is true whether it's research on HCQ or cannabis. Politics always finds a way in, either to eliminate funding for research, to shout down opinion (or advocate to get people fired), etc. People disagree, and how we navigate that is politics. It's not just a dirty word. It's how groups of people figure out how to solve problems.
3) What have the Democrats done so heinously from Jan 2017-April 2020? I'm not sure I see what's incomparable. Because if you're framing this as the 2020 "Summer of Love" revolts, you're also guilty of conflating Democrats with anarchists, bad actors, and nut jobs too. Many are Demo-leaning. But that's a gross oversimplification. I think you will find a lot of registered Democrats have little tolerance for the stuff that you think is outlandish and apesh*t. Most people surveyed in Chicago don't want everything burned down, statues destroyed, and people fired from their jobs for sharing something that doesn't fit an absolutist narrative. But all this polarization is meant to make us believe that common ground is far away and impossible.
Follow the outcome of the Durham & Bash investigations. Misuse of the Intelligence Community to try and bring down a campaign AND THEN President. Unprecedented, as the democrats in the media love to say. Indeed it is - and the fact that media awarded themselves Pulitzer Prizes for the lies they continued to propagate knowing it was false is the cherry on top. The riots will stop eventually, law enforcement will win the day as they should. That includes justice being served for what a handful of people did to overthrow an election.
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I also don't remember Republicans treating SCOTUS appointments so viciously. lol again, no comparison. Those appointments are never easy, don't get me wrong, but that shit was unnecessary for Kavanaugh.
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Per the violence in big cities part, I am going to have to go with you get what you voted for. Want a change? Try changing your vote.
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I also don't remember Republicans treating SCOTUS appointments so viciously. lol again, no comparison. Those appointments are never easy, don't get me wrong, but that shit was unnecessary for Kavanaugh.
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Per the violence in big cities part, I am going to have to go with you get what you voted for. Want a change? Try changing your vote.
Damn, this has been active while I was out...
Mentally lazy people still buying this polarization narrative being force fed on us to manipulate us and to get us to stop thinking, eh? There are protestors, rioters, and looters, and that's a gross oversimplification right there. Conflating them allows people to fold everyone into convenient, conspiracy-theory-adjacent narratives about a singular group of one mind and one set of actions.
And in the process, people stop asking questions and just start assuming and looking for patterns to fit their biases. That's how you build a brain-dead, obedient public.
Not to mention that Trump is sending out feds -- many of them $35/hour Blackwater wannabe contractors -- to provoke violent responses, capture them on camera, and use them for his re-election. (Sorry, I don't think he cares enough to have the videos shared in this thread, but they will be anyway.)
You're right in that I wouldn't call them protestors. I think people are too soft and squishy with their definitions. People are conflating political moms with anarchist bombers who just want to blow stuff up now.
At the same time, there's a lot of people who need to be heard who haven't been heard ... for a long time. Ironically, a wholly different segment of Americans who fit that profile also put Trump in office. So whether it's "everything about the society is racist and victimizes me" or "rich coastal elites tell us how to live our lives while counting billions off of our backs and calling us 'fly-over'", the reasons are different but the grievances are almost the same.
The more that you can lump people together into a single amorphous mass, the more it allows you to diminish their humanity, the more you stop listening, the more your empathy for a fellow citizen goes out the window. This is the strategy,
Oh, and GWB got over a half million people killed over a fake war that cost billions of dollars and created ISIS/Daesh as our return on investment. Let's not give him a free pass because he's a cuddly old painter now.
And Republicans don't? Merrick Garland says "hi" btw.
Because moderation isn't conflict. It's visually boring. Eyeballs are attracted to fire, flame, gunfights, smashing things, and conflicts. Money is made when everything looks like it is on fire. People get bored and turn off when it isn't.
All great examples of what I wrote above. People want a narrative like this, and they want people to repost things like this to popularize that singular narrative and foster more polarization. We're all puppets.
Because medicine has become politicized.
What I don't get is all this obsession about the media, and people are always talking about newspapers and television. Like anybody under the age of 50 is bothering with that anymore. Those models they keep pointing to are the dying hulks of previous generations, so I don't get why there's such an obsession over it.
Because there is no Mr. Science who definitively answers for everything. Science is built on an emergent consensus. That means you have to understand that while there are researchers who tell you coffee is the devil's brew and it will kill you, there will simultaneously be researchers who have studies that make them leap to the conclusion that you'll live to 200 drinking the stuff. There are always statistical anomalies, flaws in the experiments, lack of understanding of the experimental methods, and a human interpretation of data that will generate disagreement. That's part and parcel of the process.
But at some point, at the end you hope to get to a point where the earth isn't the center of the universe anymore.
Debates are so antiquated too. Who has the patience for that? Especially given media consumption habits. They should replace debates with quips and soundbytes, because that's all people want anyway. There is no debate.
And even with a debate, do we really care about the 2% of moron Americans who require two people standing at podiums mocking a high school debate class to sway their votes? And what good is a debate on the efficacy of a presidency anyway? That's like saying your surgeon is qualified because they have a certificate in hand-washing.
Big pharma is all part of the sick care conspiracy. Make money off of people remaining ill with chronic conditions. Cures are bad for business. This is why sick care and capitalism are a horrible combination that's parasitic to society. Capitalism cannot fix that. Markets cannot fix that. Governments need to intervene. Keeping people healthy and keeping them out of the health care system has to be the priority, and success at that must be financially rewarded. Otherwise the goals are aligned all wrong.
Per my above on debates, I care about a president who can speak live without a script about as much as I care for a president that can play harmonica. That's not really what I need the person to do in office.
I honestly have no clue why a politician -- any politician -- should ever wade in on medical opinions in the first place. I even have doubts if that person also happens to be an M.D., because their attention is obviously elsewhere now.
Well, other than Trump wanted to pump up the stock market and pretend that COVID would be magically treatable and would just disappear. He politicized that enough he is stuck with it now.
Nokia started as a paper pulp mill and later became a rubber company.
We could. But you kinda need to know what it looks like and how the molecules would interact with a human and a virus. This is pretty much the equivalent of saying, "Can't we just 3D print a human brain?" Yes, we could. But good luck on making it work the way you expect.
Mentally lazy people still buying this polarization narrative being force fed on us to manipulate us and to get us to stop thinking, eh? There are protestors, rioters, and looters, and that's a gross oversimplification right there. Conflating them allows people to fold everyone into convenient, conspiracy-theory-adjacent narratives about a singular group of one mind and one set of actions.
And in the process, people stop asking questions and just start assuming and looking for patterns to fit their biases. That's how you build a brain-dead, obedient public.
Not to mention that Trump is sending out feds -- many of them $35/hour Blackwater wannabe contractors -- to provoke violent responses, capture them on camera, and use them for his re-election. (Sorry, I don't think he cares enough to have the videos shared in this thread, but they will be anyway.)
You're right in that I wouldn't call them protestors. I think people are too soft and squishy with their definitions. People are conflating political moms with anarchist bombers who just want to blow stuff up now.
At the same time, there's a lot of people who need to be heard who haven't been heard ... for a long time. Ironically, a wholly different segment of Americans who fit that profile also put Trump in office. So whether it's "everything about the society is racist and victimizes me" or "rich coastal elites tell us how to live our lives while counting billions off of our backs and calling us 'fly-over'", the reasons are different but the grievances are almost the same.
The more that you can lump people together into a single amorphous mass, the more it allows you to diminish their humanity, the more you stop listening, the more your empathy for a fellow citizen goes out the window. This is the strategy,
Oh, and GWB got over a half million people killed over a fake war that cost billions of dollars and created ISIS/Daesh as our return on investment. Let's not give him a free pass because he's a cuddly old painter now.
And Republicans don't?
Merrick Garland says "hi" btw.Because moderation isn't conflict. It's visually boring. Eyeballs are attracted to fire, flame, gunfights, smashing things, and conflicts. Money is made when everything looks like it is on fire. People get bored and turn off when it isn't.
All great examples of what I wrote above. People want a narrative like this, and they want people to repost things like this to popularize that singular narrative and foster more polarization. We're all puppets.
Because medicine has become politicized.
What I don't get is all this obsession about the media, and people are always talking about newspapers and television. Like anybody under the age of 50 is bothering with that anymore. Those models they keep pointing to are the dying hulks of previous generations, so I don't get why there's such an obsession over it.
Because there is no Mr. Science who definitively answers for everything. Science is built on an emergent consensus. That means you have to understand that while there are researchers who tell you coffee is the devil's brew and it will kill you, there will simultaneously be researchers who have studies that make them leap to the conclusion that you'll live to 200 drinking the stuff. There are always statistical anomalies, flaws in the experiments, lack of understanding of the experimental methods, and a human interpretation of data that will generate disagreement. That's part and parcel of the process.
But at some point, at the end you hope to get to a point where the earth isn't the center of the universe anymore.
Debates are so antiquated too. Who has the patience for that? Especially given media consumption habits. They should replace debates with quips and soundbytes, because that's all people want anyway. There is no debate.
And even with a debate, do we really care about the 2% of moron Americans who require two people standing at podiums mocking a high school debate class to sway their votes? And what good is a debate on the efficacy of a presidency anyway? That's like saying your surgeon is qualified because they have a certificate in hand-washing.
Big pharma is all part of the sick care conspiracy. Make money off of people remaining ill with chronic conditions. Cures are bad for business. This is why sick care and capitalism are a horrible combination that's parasitic to society. Capitalism cannot fix that. Markets cannot fix that. Governments need to intervene. Keeping people healthy and keeping them out of the health care system has to be the priority, and success at that must be financially rewarded. Otherwise the goals are aligned all wrong.
Per my above on debates, I care about a president who can speak live without a script about as much as I care for a president that can play harmonica. That's not really what I need the person to do in office.
I honestly have no clue why a politician -- any politician -- should ever wade in on medical opinions in the first place. I even have doubts if that person also happens to be an M.D., because their attention is obviously elsewhere now.
Well, other than Trump wanted to pump up the stock market and pretend that COVID would be magically treatable and would just disappear. He politicized that enough he is stuck with it now.
Nokia started as a paper pulp mill and later became a rubber company.
We could. But you kinda need to know what it looks like and how the molecules would interact with a human and a virus. This is pretty much the equivalent of saying, "Can't we just 3D print a human brain?" Yes, we could. But good luck on making it work the way you expect.
i think it's nice and admirable to try to consider all facets, but the fallacy there is thinking somehow that will lead to solutions, it never does. One has to pick settle for the side with the better tradeoff.That last Administration had left gaping holes with judicial appointments at all levels. Can't be mad at this Administration took advantage of a majority Senate.
In any case, that was politics. Democrats took it to a personal level and tried to destroy the livelihood of individuals because they lost.
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Sorry, Greg said it. Point still stands, if that's all you can come up with ...get some new material.
In any case, that was politics. Democrats took it to a personal level and tried to destroy the livelihood of individuals because they lost.
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Sorry, Greg said it. Point still stands, if that's all you can come up with ...get some new material.
I am talking about how dirty and personal Democrats have become since 2016 to the point they are outright trying to destroy the lives of people. "Merrick Garland" was nothing close to the personal attacks we saw since the election.
Thank Harry Reid for the precedent he set using the "nuclear option" . McConnell simply used their own tool against them and it worked. Garland never sat down for personal attacks with some bogus claims of gang rape. So again, if that's all you got to try to compare the shit stain democrats have been during this Administration then Ok. Lol
Thank Harry Reid for the precedent he set using the "nuclear option" . McConnell simply used their own tool against them and it worked. Garland never sat down for personal attacks with some bogus claims of gang rape. So again, if that's all you got to try to compare the shit stain democrats have been during this Administration then Ok. Lol
It's all a matter of who you believe. Not granting hearing to Garland was a dick move since it's clearly within the rights of the president to nominate a SCOTUS justice. I'd say that was much more consequential than the noise around Kavanaugh.
And reducing cloture requirements for judicial appointments, or what you called nuclear option had nothing to do with it. You're confusing it with liberals complaint that Trump is filling too many judicial positions and Senate is fast tracking them.
And reducing cloture requirements for judicial appointments, or what you called nuclear option had nothing to do with it. You're confusing it with liberals complaint that Trump is filling too many judicial positions and Senate is fast tracking them.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...tssnd7xmuSIgoe9RBQxoWfhXt8#Echobox=1596002905
What a fucking moron. Of course, he’s not a social justice warrior, so it’s okay if he says it.
What a fucking moron. Of course, he’s not a social justice warrior, so it’s okay if he says it.