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Next statue on the chopping block.
https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/P...ue-of-Alaska-purchase-official-571440961.html
Nothing to see here...
https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/P...ue-of-Alaska-purchase-official-571440961.html
Nothing to see here...
Seward was the number 2 man of the Republican party after Lincoln. On the day Lincoln was assassinated there was also an assassination attempt on Seward. Hopefully this petition will have the same fate as most other Change.org petitions.
You have to commend them to at least trying to do it the right way though.
You have to commend them to at least trying to do it the right way though.
Forget Wayne's World. There is no way that Better Off Dead would be able to be done today, without the Japanese guys impersonating Howard Cosell 
One of the greatest movies EVER.
One of the greatest movies EVER.
Where else could a David Lee Roth in his prime be outdone by a claymation hamburger?
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How would it be that I, who live here, am brainwashed but you, on the other side of the world, would know better than me? Do you really think entire cities are burning down right now and it's all in chaos? It's like watching those highlight videos of players on Youtube, thinking that tells the whole story 
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Ok, listen. I'm going to just preface this by saying I have a tremendous amount of respect for you guys, and not that I think anything I'm going to say is offensive, just in case I'm going to say that none of this is personal at all or an attack on anyone. I just think you're way off base on this, and just as has been posted many times about media having an agenda and working people into a frenzy, it seems like that's what's happening here too but from the "other side" of the spectrum.
I've mentioned this before about Twitter or social media in general, how it highlights the extremes. Is this what is meant by "woke crowd?" Yeah, they're fucking ridiculous. As an example, that dumb bitch with the pink(?) hair screeching at the top of her lungs on a street corner posted a few pages back. Am I to take that seriously? Am I to take that as a symbol of a large percentage of the population? Am I to take that as a threat to me? No, of course not. Just like this guy isn't taken as an example of conservatism, because that would be ridiculous to do. It's just some crazy bitch on the street that happened to get recorded and spread around the world in seconds thanks to social media, making it look larger and more important of an issue than it actually is. No one is getting rid of Paw Patrol, but social media would have you believe that. This is really the biggest issue here, and we all keep saying it to. That video of the fireworks being thrown on the homeless man. Homeless people have been seen as "less than" for a long time. It's horrible, but it's reality and there have been plenty of crimes to show for it over the years. The police car passing by the kids shooting fireworks at each other, again this is normal. As for the rest, I really don't think I need to mention that crime exists and always will, I think we all know that. But there are punishments for these crimes, this isn't a lawless wasteland as there have been some allusions to.
But even with conventional media in general, you have helicopters overhead filming, large crowds marching or some store on 5th avenue being looted or some shit. Meanwhile, the rest of the city is going about their night like nothing is happening. But now poor Valerio up there is thinking the United States has become Mad Max and he needs to send out a rescue squad to evacuate us. Basically, all of this is being blown wildly out of proportion. There's no kristallnacht of whites going on, the vast majority of stores and buildings are untouched. All those white hipsters in Bushwick are still living life undisturbed as almost everyone else is.
Ok fine, statues. Yes, now statues are the big thing. We can all understand why some people are defacing or destroying confederate statues, and I think it's ridiculous to go around defacing statues of basically every President we've had. However I don't see this as an assault on white people, it's an inanimate object. It's like tagging a building, something that has been done since we've had buildings. Right or wrong, any statue depicting a person that owned slaves is going to be seen as a target, regardless of what else they did. The people doing the defacing aren't going to care. And do you know why? It's the same reason that we're having any of these discussions right now...
Because people were stuck at home for months and are bored. You know (partially) why those George Floyd marches were so large compared to others? You know why media outlets keep showing the same clip of George Floyd or a building on fire/being looted? You know why all these statues are being defaced or broken down? You know why this is happening and people are coming up with conspiracy theories for it? Because people are just bored and have nothing else to do, so they create conflict like Tuz posters during the mercato when there are no matches played. Is that to say police brutality, attacks on law enforcement, racism, destruction of property, or violent crimes aren't issues that still deserve attention? Absolutely not. But no one is physically in school, no one is working their menial minimum wage customer service jobs, so why not go out and do some reckless dumb shit, as young people have done since the dawn of time? Or why not focus a camera on it 24/7 and play it up for some ratings? We wouldn't be having any of these conversations if this were a normal summer, I'd put money on it.
.Ok, listen. I'm going to just preface this by saying I have a tremendous amount of respect for you guys, and not that I think anything I'm going to say is offensive, just in case I'm going to say that none of this is personal at all or an attack on anyone. I just think you're way off base on this, and just as has been posted many times about media having an agenda and working people into a frenzy, it seems like that's what's happening here too but from the "other side" of the spectrum.
I've mentioned this before about Twitter or social media in general, how it highlights the extremes. Is this what is meant by "woke crowd?" Yeah, they're fucking ridiculous. As an example, that dumb bitch with the pink(?) hair screeching at the top of her lungs on a street corner posted a few pages back. Am I to take that seriously? Am I to take that as a symbol of a large percentage of the population? Am I to take that as a threat to me? No, of course not. Just like this guy isn't taken as an example of conservatism, because that would be ridiculous to do. It's just some crazy bitch on the street that happened to get recorded and spread around the world in seconds thanks to social media, making it look larger and more important of an issue than it actually is. No one is getting rid of Paw Patrol, but social media would have you believe that. This is really the biggest issue here, and we all keep saying it to. That video of the fireworks being thrown on the homeless man. Homeless people have been seen as "less than" for a long time. It's horrible, but it's reality and there have been plenty of crimes to show for it over the years. The police car passing by the kids shooting fireworks at each other, again this is normal. As for the rest, I really don't think I need to mention that crime exists and always will, I think we all know that. But there are punishments for these crimes, this isn't a lawless wasteland as there have been some allusions to.
But even with conventional media in general, you have helicopters overhead filming, large crowds marching or some store on 5th avenue being looted or some shit. Meanwhile, the rest of the city is going about their night like nothing is happening. But now poor Valerio up there is thinking the United States has become Mad Max and he needs to send out a rescue squad to evacuate us. Basically, all of this is being blown wildly out of proportion. There's no kristallnacht of whites going on, the vast majority of stores and buildings are untouched. All those white hipsters in Bushwick are still living life undisturbed as almost everyone else is.
Ok fine, statues. Yes, now statues are the big thing. We can all understand why some people are defacing or destroying confederate statues, and I think it's ridiculous to go around defacing statues of basically every President we've had. However I don't see this as an assault on white people, it's an inanimate object. It's like tagging a building, something that has been done since we've had buildings. Right or wrong, any statue depicting a person that owned slaves is going to be seen as a target, regardless of what else they did. The people doing the defacing aren't going to care. And do you know why? It's the same reason that we're having any of these discussions right now...
Because people were stuck at home for months and are bored. You know (partially) why those George Floyd marches were so large compared to others? You know why media outlets keep showing the same clip of George Floyd or a building on fire/being looted? You know why all these statues are being defaced or broken down? You know why this is happening and people are coming up with conspiracy theories for it? Because people are just bored and have nothing else to do, so they create conflict like Tuz posters during the mercato when there are no matches played. Is that to say police brutality, attacks on law enforcement, racism, destruction of property, or violent crimes aren't issues that still deserve attention? Absolutely not. But no one is physically in school, no one is working their menial minimum wage customer service jobs, so why not go out and do some reckless dumb shit, as young people have done since the dawn of time? Or why not focus a camera on it 24/7 and play it up for some ratings? We wouldn't be having any of these conversations if this were a normal summer, I'd put money on it.
tl;dr - It's aight and the majority of the country is largely unaffected by any of this whatsoever, but everything is being blown way out of proportion because people have nothing to do so they create or add to conflict. But we will move on from this in time and become stronger for it.
As a student of history, one does not view what is unfolding as the worrying part, but rather, the worrying part is what this is indicative of. And i am afraid the dismissal of these leftie wackos is exactly why we are where we are. Make no mistake, this is a cultural revolution in the works. There are a few components and reasons behind this revolution. Over the last 50 years the demographics of america have changed tremendously, just take a look at how latinos went from 9 million to almost 60 in that time span. These dramatic changes are bound to have a far reaching ripple effect on the power dynamics in society when it comes to culture.
Compound that with the infiltration of political activists in academia and the media (most of marxist profession) and we have a full on war on what they call white supremacy, which really is the reigning capitalist anglo-saxon culture that got this country to where it is. We are a generation away from the fall of the USSR so none of these clowns know what communism was like or the general anxiety of the cold war.
Finally, do you think most Russians wanted to the tsar out? Or that most germans wanted hitler in power? As with all coups, all you really need is a dedicated and organized core that can galvanize around real or perceived grievances and a passive majority that either plays down the movement or tries to appease it. It happened way too many times.
The day there is too many barbarians and not enough romans, is the day rome falls.
This country saw another mass immigration period in 1880s and beyond. Back then Irish were the savages; both because they were poor and also because of their religion. No surprise that Irish were the antagonists of many of Horatio Alger's novels. The nation was even more divided in 1890s. Turnout in 1896 election was close to 80% to give McKinley a somewhat narrow victory. The level of vitriol was also higher than what it is today. McKinley himself was assassinated by an anarchist.
Most of the irish that migrated to the US were protestant FYI, scotch irish just like mckinley, that's why it was a big deal when kennedy made it. And the percentage of catholics was never significant enough to be a threat to the hegemonic culture. In which case though you could practice your customs privately, with the public you had to assimilate.
It wasn't only Irish but Italians and jews from southern and eastern Europe. Chinese immigration was so high that resulted in Chinese Exclusion Act. between 1880 and 1920 20 million immigrants came to US. The population of the US at 1880 were ~50m.
I don't think what you're saying about the Irish is true. Tammany Hall, the political machine that controlled NYC until 1930s was an Irish Catholic organization. Kennedy wasn't the first catholic Presidential candidate. Al Smith ran against Hoover in 1928 and lost mostly because he was Catholic.
I don't think what you're saying about the Irish is true. Tammany Hall, the political machine that controlled NYC until 1930s was an Irish Catholic organization. Kennedy wasn't the first catholic Presidential candidate. Al Smith ran against Hoover in 1928 and lost mostly because he was Catholic.
It's a bit long but in my opinion worth a watch, this is from 10 years ago.
You are right about Irish monopolizing politics in new york, they even represented the jewish and Italian neighborhoods, what i meant is at the national level they had no sway. Also the Chinese never got to close to 20% of the population, which is where we stand with latinos, who are mostly 1st and 2nd generation. The other distinction i see is people who came to the US back then saw it as a privilege, while the ones who come now see it as their god given right, bolstered by the intelligentsia that sees borders as abstractions.
You are right about Irish monopolizing politics in new york, they even represented the jewish and Italian neighborhoods, what i meant is at the national level they had no sway. Also the Chinese never got to close to 20% of the population, which is where we stand with latinos, who are mostly 1st and 2nd generation. The other distinction i see is people who came to the US back then saw it as a privilege, while the ones who come now see it as their god given right, bolstered by the intelligentsia that sees borders as abstractions.