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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
The problem is the American political spectrum is so fucked up.
Left and right have no real meaning.
The far left is off the deep end on social issues, just like the far right are on the other end. Moderates are fine socially but still really right wing when it comes to economic policy.
so there’s really just three options:
1) Far left: Ridiculous social policy, okay on economics but not great because everything will be tied to equality of outcome, not opportunity.
2) Centrist: pretty great socially but will continue to screw over the middle class and poor. Will give rise to both extremes because people will be discontent financially.
3) Far right: the nightmare we’ve been living right now. Could be even worse if Trump get re-elected.
:D

 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Either that or he'd be called an "out of touch old guy" (he'd be nearly 50 years old now) and not PC enough for social media snowflakes.

LOL I would loved to have seen them try. Would verbally school them til they deleted their precious accounts.

This was a dude at just 20 (in below clip), who publically checked/held accountable big names like Eddie Murphy, Spike Lee, Arsenio Hall, Michael Jackson (and whole Jackson family) and dumbass Paula Abdul, for as he said it, forgetting their roots/thinking they too good for their community (watch interview from 7th minute, its not really about police brutality), did it with love and well poised intelligence, hard to think any version of him would be shook by social media pressure (its a funny thought tho):


 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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For those who scoff at the idea of Tupac being a figure to represent the black community.


Malcom Little was a drug addict, womanizing, criminal in his youth, who also faked his way out of WW II by acting insane, and was a pimp. Arguably a worse path than what Tupac was on.


He became Malcom X.
Hey Jesus started out as a carpenter, no reason other carpenters can't become as influential.


Also why do backs need a representative? And if it is indeed someone like tupac it is exactly the reason why they are struggling as a culture and community.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Hey Jesus started out as a carpenter, no reason other carpenters can't become as influential.


Also why do backs need a representative?
And if it is indeed someone like tupac it is exactly the reason why they are struggling as a culture and community.
if they want to get something done/ real progress on race relations it might help to organize behind someone and have someone create demands/ goals based in reality rather then "abolish all police" and "end systemic racism"

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Hey Jesus started out as a carpenter, no reason other carpenters can't become as influential.


Also why do backs need a representative?
And if it is indeed someone like tupac it is exactly the reason why they are struggling as a culture and community.
if they want to get something done/ real progress on race relations it might help to organize behind someone and have someone create demands/ goals based in reality rather then "abolish all police" and "end systemic racism"
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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Hey Jesus started out as a carpenter, no reason other carpenters can't become as influential.


Also why do backs need a representative? And if it is indeed someone like tupac it is exactly the reason why they are struggling as a culture and community.
So, the son of a Black Panther who saw her struggle, and someone who at such a young age, spoke outwardly of inequality and injustice, would somehow, at the age of 50, on the trajectory he was on, would have been the reason for them struggling as a culture?

Let's just agree to disagree on this. That man was far, far more than just "I get around" and "Me and my girlfriend".
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Hey Jesus started out as a carpenter, no reason other carpenters can't become as influential.


Also why do backs need a representative? And if it is indeed someone like tupac it is exactly the reason why they are struggling as a culture and community.
Like he says in one of the videos above, if he could spark something in someone better than him then that was his goal. But I always wonder about a percentage of black people in America whether they can identify with say, a Barack Obama, or another educated or powerful black person as much as they can with a Tupac. Don't they get called "too white", white-raised, white philosophies and so on? I find that so frustrating, as if improving yourself is a bad thing.

It's such a complex issue, but right now I see education taking a back seat. With Trump as president and a lockdown in place maybe this was just the perfect storm.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,802
if they want to get something done/ real progress on race relations it might help to organize behind someone and have someone create demands/ goals based in reality rather then "abolish all police" and "end systemic racism"

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if they want to get something done/ real progress on race relations it might help to organize behind someone and have someone create demands/ goals based in reality rather then "abolish all police" and "end systemic racism"
It's called the black caucus, but there's nothing to demand, blacks have more help and advantages than any other racial group, still as a group they are the worst off, makes you winder why. Also what the fuck is systemic racism?
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,802
So, the son of a Black Panther who saw her struggle, and someone who at such a young age, spoke outwardly of inequality and injustice, would somehow, at the age of 50, on the trajectory he was on, would have been the reason for them struggling as a culture?

Let's just agree to disagree on this. That man was far, far more than just "I get around" and "Me and my girlfriend".
He's not the reason obviously, but a whole culture looking up to an actor playing a thug is what's problematic.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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It's called the black caucus, but there's nothing to demand, blacks have more help and advantages than any other racial group, still as a group they are the worst off, makes you winder why. Also what the fuck is systemic racism?
Good question, I've been wondering the same. It's hard to find a clear definition online.

Funny enough, heard this on BBC this morning - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52993306
 

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