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[swag]

This is how the left eats itself. Holier-than-thou dogma always trumps debate. So what you get is group-think that elevates who can be more radically stupid than the next guy without thinking.

Did you not see the Del Piero jersey?

That's my main takeaway LOLOL

Mine too.

Disregard that its Fox - the threats come straight for the horses mouth.

“I’m a leader of this FTP movement. It means a lot of things. It could mean ‘free the people’, it could mean ‘for the people’, or it could also mean ‘fire to property’ and you know that’s very possible,” said the protest leader.

“Today I’m leading a demonstration from Barclay Center at 6pm to City Hall, and that’s the first stop. I hope Mayor de Blasio and Governor Cuomo come out and talk to us and give the youth some direction. But if they don’t, the next stop is the Diamond District. And gasoline, thanks to Trump, is awfully cheap.”

File Transfer Protocol?

Defunding police entirely is retarded. I believe the somewhat reasonable idea before idiots millennial liberals took it over, was to delegate certain situations to more appropriate responders. For example, mental health professionals for mental health emergencies. And then to defund the militarization of police (ie. police departments don’t need to be equipped with military assault weapons outside the most advanced highly trained SWAT units). These are reasonable discussions about lowering police budgets in specific areas where the harm/good is up for discussion and debate.

Defunding police entirely or even largely is asinine and those pushing it right now are morons.

On your last point.... Funny thing about gun control, is that countries (modern first world democracies anyways) with stricter gun control and regulation generally need a far less heavily armed police force. This doesn’t mean police shouldn’t be armed with guns, but it does suggest that their job would be a hell of a lot easier without retarded ease of access to guns.

The police are there to enforce the laws that politicians and the public ask for. You can't blame the cops for starting drug wars. You have to start blaming politicians and voters who say they want non-violent offenses confronted with the possibility of violence. The moment you require enforcement of a law is the moment you raise the possibility of confrontation and possible violence.

I was having a chat with my brother today who fortunately saw a protest of about 4000 people in his beat back away from potentially violent outcomes.

There's this naive belief that women and other more vulnerable people somehow don't need protection.

Then you get to the idea of volunteer committees to patrol things, a la the Guardian Angels of NYC in the 80s.

Then you realize that to identify the people who are there to respond, they need some form of uniform and badging to be official.

And then they have to face drug gangs, so then maybe they need a gun.

And then maybe the volunteer force is subject to bribes and corruption because the drug gangs might help pay their life bills for their time doing service for the community as a volunteer, so then suddenly they collect a paycheck to keep them more honest.

And suddenly you've dismantled a police force only to recreate it all over again.

Too many people really don't understand the life of a cop. All these defund advocates should put their money where their mouth is and do ride alongs. You see how much a cop's job is stepping in when all the social net failures slip someone through the cracks and the community needs the fire to be put out.

 

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[Hust]

Really? You seem to watch a lot of videos. That one was circulated widely and you are discussing it here. Do you expect it to be too violent to watch?

I don't need to watch it to know what happened. I was answering a question he asked.

Yes, a push is more violent than a man dying under a cops knee. Can handle a racist cop watching a man grasp for air, but a shove/push is too much for me to stomach.

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This is how the left eats itself. Holier-than-thou dogma always trumps debate. So what you get is group-think that elevates who can be more radically stupid than the next guy without thinking.



Mine too.



File Transfer Protocol?



The police are there to enforce the laws that politicians and the public ask for. You can't blame the cops for starting drug wars. You have to start blaming politicians and voters who say they want non-violent offenses confronted with the possibility of violence. The moment you require enforcement of a law is the moment you raise the possibility of confrontation and possible violence.

I was having a chat with my brother today who fortunately saw a protest of about 4000 people in his beat back away from potentially violent outcomes.

There's this naive belief that women and other more vulnerable people somehow don't need protection.

Then you get to the idea of volunteer committees to patrol things, a la the Guardian Angels of NYC in the 80s.

Then you realize that to identify the people who are there to respond, they need some form of uniform and badging to be official.

And then they have to face drug gangs, so then maybe they need a gun.

And then maybe the volunteer force is subject to bribes and corruption because the drug gangs might help pay their life bills for their time doing service for the community as a volunteer, so then suddenly they collect a paycheck to keep them more honest.

And suddenly you've dismantled a police force only to recreate it all over again.

Too many people really don't understand the life of a cop. All these defund advocates should put their money where their mouth is and do ride alongs. You see how much a cop's job is stepping in when all the social net failures slip someone through the cracks and the community needs the fire to be put out.

I knew it. I see you. I hear you.

 

[king Ale]

I don't need to watch it to know what happened. I was answering a question he asked.

Yes, a push is more violent than a man dying under a cops knee. Can handle a racist cop watching a man grasp for air, but a shove/push is too much for me to stomach.

Yeah I didn't believe when you said you didn't watch it.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

Im confused about the defunding calls, will it not have the opposite effect than what everyone is protesting for???

Defunded police, less training, less qualified policemen/policemen not trained correctly for deescalation.

Might be my simplistic view, but what does it actually accomplish?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This is how the left eats itself. Holier-than-thou dogma always trumps debate. So what you get is group-think that elevates who can be more radically stupid than the next guy without thinking.



Mine too.



File Transfer Protocol?



The police are there to enforce the laws that politicians and the public ask for. You can't blame the cops for starting drug wars. You have to start blaming politicians and voters who say they want non-violent offenses confronted with the possibility of violence. The moment you require enforcement of a law is the moment you raise the possibility of confrontation and possible violence.

I was having a chat with my brother today who fortunately saw a protest of about 4000 people in his beat back away from potentially violent outcomes.

There's this naive belief that women and other more vulnerable people somehow don't need protection.

Then you get to the idea of volunteer committees to patrol things, a la the Guardian Angels of NYC in the 80s.

Then you realize that to identify the people who are there to respond, they need some form of uniform and badging to be official.

And then they have to face drug gangs, so then maybe they need a gun.

And then maybe the volunteer force is subject to bribes and corruption because the drug gangs might help pay their life bills for their time doing service for the community as a volunteer, so then suddenly they collect a paycheck to keep them more honest.

And suddenly you've dismantled a police force only to recreate it all over again.

Too many people really don't understand the life of a cop. All these defund advocates should put their money where their mouth is and do ride alongs. You see how much a cop's job is stepping in when all the social net failures slip someone through the cracks and the community needs the fire to be put out.

I remember when we used to FTP shit, but really top post this

 

[Hust]

lol didn't see the file transfer protocol

SFTP = cops (obviously)

FTP = BLM

ICMP type 3, Code 8 = Trump

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Yeah I didn't believe when you said you didn't watch it.

I have now that I posted about it, but at the time I only saw the image of him laying in his own blood

 

[king Ale]

Stuff like this will always happen. It shouldn't result in riots, it should result in swift punishment for the guilty so the world sees action is actually being taken and not only that, we can enforce it while not burning everything to the ground.

Has it happened? Forget about the conversation about race, think about every one of the incidents that made headlines (and take into account many were never mentioned because the victim was white), what was the swift punishment? What was the conviction rate? And why should people think the wrongdoer will be brought to justice when the record shows otherwise?

 

[Hust]

Im confused about the defunding calls, will it not have the opposite effect than what everyone is protesting for???

Defunded police, less training, less qualified policemen/policemen not trained correctly for deescalation.

Might be my simplistic view, but what does it actually accomplish?

Yep. Defies logic.

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Has it happened? Forget about the conversation about race, think about every one of the incidents that made headlines (and take into account many were never mentioned because the victim was white), what was the swift punishment? What was the conviction rate? And why should people think the wrongdoer will be brought to justice when the record shows otherwise?

Has it happened "yet"? No - will always take time here in the States as it has to run its course through the courts before a verdict is delivered. He was arrested quickly, followed by the other 3 clowns and they had their charges delivered yesterday ( I think).

Depends what you think justice is I guess: A quick arrest, well that's a box checked. Jailtime, I think they are in jail awaiting trial, etc. Can sorta check that box, but if you want jail time after a guilty verdict...that won't happen as fast as these people want.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm just having a blast with this lol

 

[Mr Chocolate]

I'm just having a blast with this lol

she is the same retard that was angry that her crowd was majority white and she didnt want to preform for people that didnt support her
great way to say show gratitude to ur fucken fans that actually bought tickets to your garbage

 

[king Ale]

Yep. Defies logic.

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Has it happened "yet"? No - will always take time here in the States as it has to run its course through the courts before a verdict is delivered. He was arrested quickly, followed by the other 3 clowns and they had their charges delivered yesterday ( I think).

Depends what you think justice is I guess: A quick arrest, well that's a box checked. Jailtime, I think they are in jail awaiting trial, etc. Can sorta check that box, but if you want jail time after a guilty verdict...that won't happen as fast as these people want.

Oh don't play that game with me "Yet" as in the Chauvin's case, right? That was not what I was talking about and you know it. I asked you to think about all the ones before, a fraction of those actually - those that made headlines -, what was the swift punishment?

 

[kao_ray]

I'm just having a blast with this lol

This can't be real.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

she is the same retard that was angry that her crowd was majority white and she didnt want to preform for people that didnt support her
great way to say show gratitude to ur fucken fans that actually bought tickets to your garbage

I have yet to see or hear any racism or discrimination from whites or others throughout this whole thing, but racism and discrimination is all i see on that side.

 

[Hust]

Oh don't play that game with me "Yet" as in the Chauvin's case, right? That was not what I was talking about and you know it. I asked you to think about all the ones before, a fraction of those actually - those that made headlines -, what was the swift punishment?

Are we talking only about Chauvin and this current Floyd story (like we were yesterday) or the big picture on police brutality? I'm trying to stay on the same page, I thought we were my bad.

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I have yet to see or hear any racism or discrimination from whites or others throughout this whole thing, but racism and discrimination is all i see on that side.

it's all about the right wing white supremacists donchaknow?

 

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This can't be real.

has to be a troll account. its retweeting stuff about an immortal black woman whose cells are used to create vaccines.

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm just having a blast with this lol

Who is this?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

has to be a troll account. its retweeting stuff about an immortal black woman whose cells are used to create vaccines.

It's 100% hers

 

[king Ale]

Are we talking only about Chauvin and this current Floyd story (like we were yesterday) or the big picture on police brutality? I'm trying to stay on the same page, I thought we were my bad.

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it's all about the right wing white supremacists donchaknow?

You said these things always happen, I actually wouldn't say always but glad you agree Chauvin was not the only or the first. You said it shouldn't lead to riots. I would have agreed if I'd known what it had resulted in the previous times something like that happened. There have been plenty of cases involving unarmed unthreatening people, sometimes handcuffed, sometimes even moving away from the police, many we have seen, many I assume were not filmed or were not sensational enough to make their way to the media. These were involving people's lives. What was the result and what was the swift punishment?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Who is this?

She's a soul singer from Chicago.

 

[Hust]

You said these things always happen, I actually wouldn't say always but glad you agree Chauvin was not the only or the first. You said it shouldn't lead to riots. I would have agreed if I'd known what it had resulted in the previous times something like that happened. There have been plenty of cases involving unarmed unthreatening people, sometimes handcuffed, sometimes even moving away from the police, many we have seen, many I assume were not filmed or were not sensational enough to make their way to the media. These were involving people's lives. What was the result and what was the swift punishment?

lol have no idea why you would think I would believe this was not the first. And no, it shouldn't lead to riots. That's not the answer. Wouldn't imagine why anyone would think it would be to be honest. That's now how civilized societies work IMO. I would reckon to think the ones that never (or hardly) made the news never received punishment or if they did was a slap on the wrist (fine, demotion, loss of job, etc). I assume that's what you're driving after?

I wonder what these angry mobs are doing to try and turn in the people that killed the police and other protestors during this current event. Seems like if it ain't in their narrative it probably won't garner much attention from the people protesting. We aren't a perfect society by any means, but as you said yesterday an unjustified murder should garner reaction and attention and again, you said "these involved peoples lives". Some people get to choose which ones to pay attention to, others not so much.