'Murica! (95 Viewers)

[Enron]

Or because some Mexicans can’t take responsibility for their bs in the problems with our border ? Hey I mean why not have some personal responsibility for their governments bullshit

You totally don't get it. Mexico has actually come great lengths in border security. Theirs might even be tougher than ours. The unfortunate part is that their are a shit ton of people coming from central America, so it's hard to keep track. Especially, when you acknowledge people escaping civil conflict as refugees. Which we don't. Anywho, is a complicated situation and I wouldn't expect to understand the intricacies. I would only ask that you not act like you do.

They were fired up because someone said an anti Mexican thing and threatened them. The same way we get fired up if someone says something about us or threatens us.

The point is words have an effect. Especially, as a president. I've always been interested as to how Trump supporters can be so family oriented, Christian types and have the moral compass of a shark.

 

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[pitbull]

Again, why should I care what the Bible says?

And I'm not sure why you're asking me about the rules. I don't make them nor enforce them, nor necessarily agree with them.

Because you said that no family targetting rule is obvious to you and not having a similar rule for faith is also obvious, I dont want you to change anything, I'm challenging your viewpoint and you're yet to explain yourself

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Because you said that no family targetting rule is obvious to you and not having a similar rule for faith is also obvious, I dont want you to change anything, I'm challenging your viewpoint and you're yet to explain yourself

Who's personally attacking you for your faith

 

[Seven]

You don't get it. In a Republic, the president can say whatever he wants including that those who don't think like him shouldn't be able to say whatever they want. Happens all the time in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

This is so good on so many levels. I am in complete awe.

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[Maddy]

Apropos Andrea's lack of understanding

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/09/trump-federal-reserve-independence-523275

But of course this isn't a problem, you alarmist.

 

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Andrea doesn't grasp the severity of a President attacking freedom of press and freedom of speech in a Democracy.

Have you already forgotten that "America isn't a democracy"?

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Trump did say that America should try a president for life, like China, just a few weeks ago.

 

[ALC]

Have you already forgotten that "America isn't a democracy"?

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Trump did say that America should try a president for life, like China, just a few weeks ago.

he did

It’s good that he can say anything he wants tho

 

[pitbull]

Who's personally attacking you for your faith

No one lately But AC is taking a lot of fire, his lack of knowledge on some subjects somehow brings out the worst from tuz teachers

 

[Ronn]

No one lately But AC is taking a lot of fire, his lack of knowledge on some subjects somehow brings out the worst from tuz teachers

Honest question: do you consider mocking religion a personal attack on yourself?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Because you said that no family targetting rule is obvious to you and not having a similar rule for faith is also obvious, I dont want you to change anything, I'm challenging your viewpoint and you're yet to explain yourself

The no family rule is not a strong conviction of mine that I care to or can convincingly defend. Doesn't matter to me either way really. All I'll say is an attack on a person's family is an attack on real life people, and an attack on the person himself. If it became not against the rules here, I wouldn't really care, but at the same time I can live with not being allowed to target someone's family on an internet forum.

An "attack" on someone's faith/ideology/idea is not an attack on the person, but an attack on something abstract, and is an idea in itself. And forbidding that is called censorship, which nobody wants (except when it's their belief being attacked, yet they won't accept their own ideas being censored).

 

[ALC]

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-...michael-cohen-revelations-trump-2d9858943036/

Trump was clearly trying to divert attention from Cohen and the Russians with that statement.

 

[Post Ironic]

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-...michael-cohen-revelations-trump-2d9858943036/

Trump was clearly trying to divert attention from Cohen and the Russians with that statement.

Move along, nothing to see here. AndreaCristiano says Trump is draining the swamp and he isn't like normal corrupt politicians like that "satanic piece of trash" Hillary.

 

[ALC]

I've tried to be unbiased when it comes to parties since they both seem pretty shit but stuff like this definitely makes me dislike Republicans a lot.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...s-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts

 

[Nomuken]

Who's personally attacking you for your faith

 

[pitbull]

Honest question: do you consider mocking religion a personal attack on yourself?

nope, but I do consider personal attacks that are targetting someones faith personal besides there's a very thin line there, imagine you had a wife named Linda and someone next to you, fully aware of that fact, was going on about how all Lindas are slutty crocodiles, would that be personal to you or not?

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The no family rule is not a strong conviction of mine that I care to or can convincingly defend. Doesn't matter to me either way really. All I'll say is an attack on a person's family is an attack on real life people, and an attack on the person himself. If it became not against the rules here, I wouldn't really care, but at the same time I can live with not being allowed to target someone's family on an internet forum.

An "attack" on someone's faith/ideology/idea is not an attack on the person, but an attack on something abstract, and is an idea in itself. And forbidding that is called censorship, which nobody wants (except when it's their belief being attacked, yet they won't accept their own ideas being censored).

the bond that makes family members more important than other people is also abstract, just like someones faith/ideology/idea.

you can call Icardi a whore all day long and no one will care even though he is "real life people"

 

[Post Ironic]

It's quite amusing to listen to religious folk (of the western abrahamic sort) whine about their religions and faiths being mocked or disrespected, considering a central tenet of their religion is judgment and eternal damnation for non-believers.

I fail to see why I, or any atheist for that matter, should show the slightest respect for a faith that explicitly sentences me to eternal damnation in hell.

 

[pitbull]

It's quite amusing to listen to religious folk (of the western abrahamic sort) whine about their religions and faiths being mocked or disrespected, considering a central tenet of their religion is judgment and eternal damnation for non-believers.

I fail to see why I, or any atheist for that matter, should show the slightest respect for a faith that explicitly sentences me to eternal damnation in hell.

lol, you can't be a non-believer in regards to God and at the same time believe he is sentencing you to damnation in hell, pick your side

 

[Post Ironic]

lol, you can't be a non-believer in regards to God and at the same time believe he is sentencing you to damnation in hell, pick your side

Of course I can't be. I don't believe God is sentencing to me hell. That wasn't my point.

However, I do know most Catholics certainly believe that us atheists are bound for the inferno, so I hardly think it's fair to ask me respect a belief system that says I'm on my way to eternal damnation if I disagree with it.

 

[pitbull]

Of course I can't be. I don't believe God is sentencing to me hell. That wasn't my point.

However, I do know most Catholics certainly believe that us atheists are bound for the inferno, so I hardly think it's fair to ask me respect a belief system that says I'm on my way to eternal damnation if I disagree with it.

what? if you disagree with it, why would you care if some non-existing force damns you to non-existing hell? I don't get it, you must be a very sensitive person

besides I think you got the wording wrong, if we're talking about Christianity, everyone is heading towards hell, because we're all "bad", yet some are saved through Christ

 

[Post Ironic]

what? if you disagree with it, why would you care if some non-existing force damns you to non-existing hell? I don't get it, you must be a very sensitive person

besides I think you got the wording wrong, if we're talking about Christianity, everyone is heading towards hell, because we're all "bad", yet some are saved through Christ

This has nothing to do with my point. I have no reason nor compulsion to show respect for beliefs I find delusional and ridiculous. Even more so because these people believe I am damned. But it hardly matters. I rarely get into religious discussions with others, so mockery/disrespect for religious beliefs rarely comes up. Discussing religion with religious folks is an exercise is futility. This only came up here because a rather religious fellow was whining about his beliefs being mocked and disrespected.

And your second statement is meaningless semantics. You have to faith in, and ask forgiveness through Christ to be saved. Hence the point, if you aren't Christian, you're apparently going to hell.

Anyways, we disagree. I see no point in continuing this discussion.