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IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,931
Not voting still makes you an irresponsible citizen because you let other folks choose a mentally unstable subhuman as president while you do nothing about it.

No wonder Trump got elected.

Democracy assumes a certain degree of political consciousness and a full realization of duties and responsibilities of true citizenship.
 

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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
As much as I hate Trump not voting is a choice like voting Trump or Hillary.
It's always a choice, but in an election as close as this one, not voting is basically electing the winner. Since one of the two will be elected anyway ("no vote" will never be the president), it is IMHO one's responsibility to figure out which would a worse outcome and vote the other. Unless one really thinks there is no difference between Hillary and Trump, in which case one is as stupid as those who voted Trump.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,899
It's always a choice, but in an election as close as this one, not voting is basically electing the winner. Since one of the two will be elected anyway ("no vote" will never be the president), it is IMHO one's responsibility to figure out which would a worse outcome and vote the other. Unless one really thinks there is no difference between Hillary and Trump, in which case one is as stupid as those who voted Trump.
I disagree with voting based on lesser of two evils in ANY circumstances. That's pretty much guarantees a race to the the bottom. A vote needs to be earned to some degree.
I'm not an idealist and understand that I cannot find a candidate that reflects my views 100%, but they have to at least try.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,535
Can we stop calling people who voted for Trump stupid? It’s just jumping to conclusions and insulting people you know nothing about. Everyone had their reasons for voting Hillary just as everyone had their reasons for not voting Hillary.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
87,955
So after being shoe in from political dynasty and total establishment backed candidate but then beaten by unknown black man with islamic name and later orange Jesus is Hilary Clinton the biggest loser in US presidential election history?

There wasn't an advantage that she didn't have but couldn't fake being human enough to make what should've been layups
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,535
Seems like we got a Trump voter here.
I would do no such thing babe. But it’s not the fault of the voters that the Democrats couldn’t pick a more viable candidate. I only voted for her because she wasn’t Trump. Otherwise, idk. Let’s not mention the fact that she’s been involved in some shady shit, the Democratic Party goes ahead and lets her run. Plus you can’t follow up the first black president with the first woman president. Not after how many people were irrationally pissed that he was black.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
16,825
Can we stop calling people who voted for Trump stupid? It’s just jumping to conclusions and insulting people you know nothing about. Everyone had their reasons for voting Hillary just as everyone had their reasons for not voting Hillary.
I can call a mulligan for someone who voted for Trump because Hillary was such a terrible candidate, but anyone who still supports him is clearly a moron.

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So after being shoe in from political dynasty and total establishment backed candidate but then beaten by unknown black man with islamic name and later orange Jesus is Hilary Clinton the biggest loser in US presidential election history?

There wasn't an advantage that she didn't have but couldn't fake being human enough to make what should've been layups
The worst part is that even a year later how she and her campaign are still making all kinds of excuses for her defeat while ignoring the real reasons.
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,955
I can call a mulligan for someone who voted for Trump because Hillary was such a terrible candidate, but anyone who still supports him is clearly a moron.

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The worst part is that even a year later how she and her campaign are still making all kinds of excuses for her defeat while ignoring the real reasons.
These days she's blaming Bernie Sanders as if he somehow owes her anything. :lol2: :lol2:
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,535
I can call a mulligan for someone who voted for Trump because Hillary was such a terrible candidate, but anyone who still supports him is clearly a moron.

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The worst part is that even a year later how she and her campaign are still making all kinds of excuses for her defeat while ignoring the real reasons.
Exactly, people just wanted something different. And Hillary definitely didn’t seem like a good choice. So I can understand why someone wouldn’t vote for her. But calling people stupid just because they wanted change is taking it too far imo. Politics are a funny game and in the end, no side is more
correct than the other .
 

Mr Chocolate

Rubba Band Business
Dec 23, 2012
6,702
I would do no such thing babe. But it’s not the fault of the voters that the Democrats couldn’t pick a more viable candidate. I only voted for her because she wasn’t Trump. Otherwise, idk. Let’s not mention the fact that she’s been involved in some shady shit, the Democratic Party goes ahead and lets her run. Plus you can’t follow up the first black president with the first woman president. Not after how many people were irrationally pissed that he was black.
:agree: they literally picked the worst possible candidate, didn't help that she was so smug about it too, I'm sure Bernie would have beaten Trump in an election (not 100% sure, US people might have more insight than me) the whole thing was so Hillary would beat Bernie and get the presidency, she thought she had it in the bag, everything I read about the issue just says that her actual campaign was terribly run and Trump just outplayed her, in terms of Touring and Rally's and such.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,899
[video=twitter;917026789188399105]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917026789188399105[/video]
[video=twitter;917029060471152640]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917029060471152640[/video]
[video=twitter;917030148867682304]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917030148867682304[/video]
[video=twitter;917045348820049920]https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920[/video]

This is the new normal now.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,899
Whoever voted for this excuse of a human being is a moron and at the very least deserves all the derision that choice entails.
:agree: I have no sympathy for Trump voters. If Hillary is not good for you, then don't vote. There were obvious signs that it's going to be this shitty.
 

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