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[Zacheryah]

No. But if they say they will support and defend their ideas during that conversation, it does.

I'm still wondering why you feel the constant need to defend the Trump administration btw

I'll quote ben shapiro, who worked under Bannon, and later quit cause he was going with Breitbart in the wrong direction according to him


"He has unending ambition and will do anything to get where he wants to go. He's an asshole, but not a white supremacist or antisemite".

I replied because while bannon is a reason for concern, he's not a racist

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I have to remind you that Iran deal is only for 10 years.
And what you are saying makes zero sense. US is the big guy here, and therefore, they have to deescalate. They can go after Iran possibly by sanctions and similar tools, but the language used today was extremely sharp. To put things in perspective, imagine if they use the same language with North Korea.

If find it hard to take North Korea serious, but i understand your viewpoint.


De-escalate can be done in two ways. Here in Europe, we will always go for the reasonable discussion and calm things down. That works sometimes

You can also posture and remind someone you can obliterate them with your pinky toe if they pull shit you arent having. That works always against a minority but creates friction.

 

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[Ronn]

I'll quote ben shapiro, who worked under Bannon, and later quit cause he was going with Breitbart in the wrong direction according to him


"He has unending ambition and will do anything to get where he wants to go. He's an asshole, but not a white supremacist or antisemite".

I replied because while bannon is a reason for concern, he's not a racist

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If find it hard to take North Korea serious, but i understand your viewpoint.


De-escalate can be done in two ways. Here in Europe, we will always go for the reasonable discussion and calm things down. That works sometimes

You can also posture and remind someone you can obliterate them with your pinky toe if they pull shit you arent having. That works always against a minority but creates friction.

Lol how can you call the second way deescalating?

 

[Post Ironic]

Quoting Ben Shapiro as affirmation that Bannon isn't white supremacist.

 

[Zacheryah]

No. But if they say they will support and defend their ideas during that conversation, it does.

I'm still wondering why you feel the constant need to defend the Trump administration btw

I'll add


Thing with Bannon is. If he can get where he wants by listening to white supremacists, and get some of their "not too outrageous" points through, giving him the backing he needs, he will absolutely do that.
Lets take a short return in belgian history. And that'll answer your questions why i approve "protest voters"


We have made an absolute disgusting mess of migration in belgium for a long time. PS/SP advocated things like they were for electoral gain. Other majority party's did nothing cause they didnt wanted to seem too rightwing.
People didnt like it, but they ignored it

Come the election of 2000 ? iirc. Vlaams Belang, proven racist party, wins a huge amount. The press calls it black sunday. Back then, they had a program with several points for migration. Other party's decided to put a 'cordon sanitaire' around them, meaning nobody would negotiate or coalite with them.

Forward to 2016. 70% of the points(the non retarded ones) on Vlaams Belang's election agenda of 2000 are in effect today. Thats why i want party's like them to exist. The ability for the people to give the majority party's a kick in the balls.




Same should happen after Trump. The DNC should learn how Trump won the election. The media too. They should see what drove these people and how they can adjust to win them back.

 

[Ocelot]

No. But if they say they will support and defend their ideas during that conversation, it does.

I'm still wondering why you feel the constant need to defend the Trump administration btw

I'm pretty sure swag knows that "Arbeit macht frei" was pure cynicism.

And that was my last post on that topic in this thread, promised

Thanks

Saudi's and Israel are the two most important ally's for the US.
Under Obama, Iran had to quit its nuclear weapon program and turn to nuclear energy. That was great by Obama.
If they want to develop further, and use ballistic missles, thats fine. If the US wants to remind them they wont be having it if they use that to attack their most important allies (Israel and Sauri Arabia), thats fine too.
Iran backed Houthi rebels attacked an Saudi warship. So the notice is fine by me


If the US can use its power and influence to prevent a conflict , thats great.



It remains to be seen if the Trump administration can be as succesfull at it as Obama was by taking the plug out of a potential huge conflict by killing their nuclear weapon program.

Come on, at this point you're just doing mental gymnastics to push Trump's actions in the most favorable light possible. I get the instinct to be against the opinion mainstream, but ask yourself if you really believe this or are just going along with it because you've already gone so far and are afraid of cognitive dissonance.

 

[king Ale]

Flynn: we're officially putting Iran on notice
http://www.mediaite.com/online/nati...day-we-are-officially-putting-iran-on-notice/


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I'm not going to freak out over the possibility of a war with Iran, yet, but the hell are we doing tu in hiriviri :frown2:

 

[campionesidd]

Quoting Ben Shapiro as affirmation that Bannon isn't white supremacist.

Bannon would gas Shapiro if he had the opportunity.

 

[Seven]

I'm pretty sure swag knows that "Arbeit macht frei" was pure cynicism.

And that was my last post on that topic in this thread, promised



Come on, at this point you're just doing mental gymnastics to push Trump's actions in the most favorable light possible. I get the instinct to be against the opinion mainstream, but ask yourself if you really believe this or are just going along with it because you've already gone so far and are afraid of cognitive dissonance.

I agree. I feel like Zach is doing this because he feels he has to now given previous discussions.

You don't, Zach. Just admit it. This administration is not okay. You know it isn't.

 

[Zacheryah]

Quoting Ben Shapiro as affirmation that Bannon isn't white supremacist.

Shapiro worked under Andrew Breitbart and later Bannon. He quit breitbart cause he didnt agree with the alt-right direction it was heading into.
He's probably the most knowledgable person to ask an opinion about Bannon, that isnt tied (except for NDA's) too much.

 

[king Ale]

I'll quote ben shapiro, who worked under Bannon, and later quit cause he was going with Breitbart in the wrong direction according to him


"He has unending ambition and will do anything to get where he wants to go. He's an asshole, but not a white supremacist or antisemite".

I replied because while bannon is a reason for concern, he's not a racist

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If find it hard to take North Korea serious, but i understand your viewpoint.


De-escalate can be done in two ways. Here in Europe, we will always go for the reasonable discussion and calm things down. That works sometimes

You can also posture and remind someone you can obliterate them with your pinky toe if they pull shit you arent having. That works always against a minority but creates friction.

sergio^∞

For everything you post, and for your incapability to admit that you were wrong about Trump in "every" way, unless you had other reasons to favor him.

 

[Zacheryah]

Bannon would gas Shapiro if he had the opportunity.

Thats actually not far from the truth


Shapiro became a very influental conservative republican, that received a gigantic load of hate and antisemetism from alt right after leaving Breitbart.


Shapiro is also a big critic of Trump. So yeah, i wouldnt be surprised considering Bannons acta exitus probat way of thinking

 

[Post Ironic]

One rich white guy saying another rich white guy who refuses to disavow white supremacy isn't a racist.

 

[Zacheryah]

sergio^∞

For everything you post, and for your incapability to admit that you were wrong about Trump in "every" way, unless you had other reasons to favor him.

I dont like Israel. And i absolutely dislike Saudi Arabia. I dont mind if their warships get attacked.

But the sad fucking truth is that they are the two biggest american ally's, and not a single US president is having it if they come under threat from another nation.


Hoori, name me one single US president that wont retalliate if any nation attacks SA or Israel.

 

[Ronn]

I'm not going to freak out over the possibility of a war with Iran, yet, but the hell are we doing tu in hiriviri :frown2:

I'm not going to freak out either. But when I remember that the State Department is depleted of the diplomats that could open channels with Iran, and the country is being run by a lunatic with even crazier staff, I can't say I'm not at least worried.

 

[Zacheryah]

One rich white guy saying another rich white guy who refuses to disavow white supremacy isn't a racist.

Shapiro isnt a white supremacist. Dont be fucking ridiculous.

 

[Post Ironic]

sergio^∞

For everything you post, and for your incapability to admit that you were wrong about Trump in "every" way, unless you had other reasons to favor him.

Seriously though, the absolutely spectacular mental gymnastics he performs and "alternative facts" he uses to illustrate how he wasn't actually wrong, it's kind of impressive, n'est-ce pas?

 

[Ronn]

Shapiro isnt a white supremacist. Dont be fucking ridiculous.

Read what he said again

 

[Post Ironic]

Shapiro isnt a white supremacist. Dont be fucking ridiculous.

Reading comprehension.

I said a rich white guy (Shapiro), saying another rich white guy who refuses to disavow white supremacy (Bannon) isn't racist.

How exactly do you come to the conclusion that I was saying Shapiro is racist?

 

[Zacheryah]

Read what he said again

What he said is actually bigotted

 

[campionesidd]

I dont like Israel. And i absolutely dislike Saudi Arabia. I dont mind if their warships get attacked.

But the sad fucking truth is that they are the two biggest american ally's, and not a single US president is having it if they come under threat from another nation.

Then why is Trump throwing childish tantrums against the EU and Japan? They're also supposed to be Americas top allies.