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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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The Iraq war was certainly part of it. But the stability of Northern Africa was utterly destroyed beginning in Libya, moving East across the continent to Egypt where the country seemingly still has not recovered. Obama almost bombed the Assad regime until military servicemen declined to be Al Qaeda's air force. Quite clearly there is more at play than just asinine foreign policy decisions -- this is about regime change across the Middle East, and clearly it's gotten out of control now -- on Obama's watch, mind you. And by the way, my "narrative" has always been indict Bush and Cheney for war crimes, so you need to think outside of the box and get out of this left-right paradigm.

What do you mean by radicalization? You don't think it's pretty radical to invade countries that had no part in attacking us while at the same time protecting the true culprits because they have the oil? Or is it because the left sort of agrees with it as well, along with the Patriot Act? The Republican party now is far more sane than after 2001, even despite their anti-immgration rhetoric.
That's actually a pretty good post :tup:

Radicalisation in terms of the political discourse mainly, though I wouldn't call the foreign policiy proposals of the front runners sane in any way, seeing as they mostly include bombing the hell out of everything that might be ISIS.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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That's actually a pretty good post :tup:

Radicalisation in terms of the political discourse mainly, though I wouldn't call the foreign policiy proposals of the front runners sane in any way, seeing as they mostly include bombing the hell out of everything that might be ISIS.
Every political regime needs its demons to exist.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
The Iraq war was certainly part of it. But the stability of Northern Africa was utterly destroyed beginning in Libya, moving East across the continent to Egypt where the country seemingly still has not recovered. Obama almost bombed the Assad regime until military servicemen declined to be Al Qaeda's air force. Quite clearly there is more at play than just asinine foreign policy decisions -- this is about regime change across the Middle East, and clearly it's gotten out of control now -- on Obama's watch, mind you. And by the way, my "narrative" has always been indict Bush and Cheney for war crimes, so you need to think outside of the box and get out of this left-right paradigm.

What do you mean by radicalization? You don't think it's pretty radical to invade countries that had no part in attacking us while at the same time protecting the true culprits because they have the oil? Or is it because the left sort of agrees with it as well, along with the Patriot Act? The Republican party now is far more sane than after 2001, even despite their anti-immgration rhetoric.
So what was your problem when I called this whole middle-east mess a production of western powers'?

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This is beautiful :lol:
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,135
So what was your problem when I called this whole middle-east mess a production of western powers'?
I don't recall having a problem with it, unless it was about accepting refugees.

Bernie Sanders is taking on the Federal Reserve. Shouldn't everyone vote for him just on that alone?
He wants to take on the Fed so the Treasury simply hands out money to everyone. Hardly a good way to go if you want to have a strong currency.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,135
I'll take your word for it, but I get the impression that the Fed is kinda the reason for the financial mess?
Part of it. They basically created the housing bubble. The wall street banks are the major culprits but they are governed by the New York Fed, so yeah, it's the Fed.

I guess the good news is that the best folks on both sides (Bernie and Rand) take on the Fed. Too bad they stand no chance.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,767
Part of it. They basically created the housing bubble. The wall street banks are the major culprits but they are governed by the New York Fed, so yeah, it's the Fed.

I guess the good news is that the best folks on both sides (Bernie and Rand) take on the Fed. Too bad they stand no chance.
Yeah, looks like it will be Trump or Hillary. lol
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,135
Yeah, looks like it will be Trump or Hillary. lol
Clock is ticking on this cuntry.

The Pauls have been doing this since forever. Then I believe Christie jumped on the bandwagon recently too.
Did he really? I thought it was that schmuck Ted Cruz? Chris Christie is the fattest man alive and stuffs Federal Reserve notes under his rolls.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,801
Clock is ticking on this cuntry.



Did he really? I thought it was that schmuck Ted Cruz? Chris Christie is the fattest man alive and stuffs Federal Reserve notes under his rolls.
:lol: It could easily be both, but I'm pretty sure I remember Christie throwing out some criticisms during the last or second-to-last debate.
 

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