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[Seven]

first of all i disagreed with this notion of disproportion which plain old silly, because it is subjective and doesnt tell anything about the state of an economy. As for burdens of proof, it's really simple, look at hong kong before it went back to the chinese. Now to the failures here, the only one i see is intellectual dishonesty, if you were really interested in looking for the truth as opposed to defending your point you'd see that i have provided a good example and even explained for you an element that i dont believe in convincingly yet you remain entrenched in your position.

Now we're getting somewhere. I am guessing that your example would then be Hong Kong before it went back to the Chinese as opposed to Hong Kong today?

I wasn't being intellectually dishonest by the way. If you would have come up with a perfect example that would have changed the debate. But you didn't. I suppose that right now you have given a new example, so let me look into that.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

Now we're getting somewhere. I am guessing that your example would then be Hong Kong before it went back to the Chinese as opposed to Hong Kong today?

I wasn't being intellectually dishonest by the way. If you would have come up with a perfect example that would have changed the debate. But you didn't. I suppose that right now you have given a new example, so let me look into that.

no, my example is Hong Kong then and now. the system has little to do with your so called disproportion, unless you think its success is a problem.

 

[Seven]

no, my example is Hong Kong then and now. the system has little to do with your so called disproportion, unless you think its success is a problem.

The debate wasn't about whether or not disproportion and income equality are good ways to measure the success of an economic system. Ocelot asked to provide an example of a state with little government meddling that had low inequality. He didn't say that was a good way to measure success. He just asked for an example.

You're making it a moral debate, where Ocelot asked for a fact.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The debate wasn't about whether or not disproportion and income equality are good ways to measure the success of an economic system. Ocelot asked to provide an example of a state with little government meddling that had low inequality. He didn't say that was a good way to measure success. He just asked for an example.

You're making it a moral debate, where Ocelot asked for a fact.

see that intellectual dishonesty("that does not end up in drastic inequality") anyways you win thanks for wasting my time

 

[Seven]

see that intellectual dishonesty("that does not end up in drastic inequality") anyways you win thanks for wasting my time

Don't be a crybaby. You're better than that.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Don't be a crybaby. You're better than that.

those tactics dont work on me, also i just dont think you want to get it, just cutting my losses

 

[Seven]

those tactics dont work on me, also i just dont think you want to get it, just cutting my losses

You seem to think that I am dismissing your stance outright. I'm not. In fact I have always been very paranoid towards governments, because most are filled with incompetent people on the one hand and sheer evil fucks on the other. Yesterday I posted what I thought a government needs to provide and from what I gather we would agree on that.

But I feel Ocelot raised a good point in asking for an example and quite frankly I couldn't think of one.

 

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[Trequartista]

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[Fr3sh]

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Augustus sol invictus

I knew it they were all blood drinking satan worshipping devils.

 

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Second worst thing religious ppl do to goats

 

[Fr3sh]

Second worst thing religious ppl do to goats

 

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[Völler]

Ben Carson suggests Holocaust could have been "diminished" with guns
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carson-suggests-holocaust-diminished-with-guns/

In his latest book, "A More Perfect Union," the GOP hopeful wrote: "[T]hrough a combination of removing guns and disseminating propaganda the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance."

When asked to further elaborate on the passage on CNN, Carson said Thursday that he believed "the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed."

"There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first," Carson said.

Surprisingly, I haven't seen anyone post this yet. Couldn't figure out if I should post this here or in the gun thread.

 

[Maddy]

Ben Carson suggests Holocaust could have been "diminished" with guns
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carson-suggests-holocaust-diminished-with-guns/





Surprisingly, I haven't seen anyone post this yet. Couldn't figure out if I should post this here or in the gun thread.

Holy fuck! The stupidity coming out of that party

MURICA! Fuck yeah!

 

[Seven]

"There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first," Carson said.

He's not wrong about that part. But what he's implying is astounding. First thing would be that you have to arm yourself against state officials and shoot them when you disagree. I doubt a conservative like him is advocating that people go out and shoot police officers. Secondly it means a total lack of faith in the democratic system. It is a platitude to say Hitler got elected, but well, he did. Initially at least.

 

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Ben Carson suggests Holocaust could have been "diminished" with guns
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carson-suggests-holocaust-diminished-with-guns/





Surprisingly, I haven't seen anyone post this yet. Couldn't figure out if I should post this here or in the gun thread.

The worst part... Ben Carson is supposed to be the smart guy in the field.