That doesn't change the statistics at all. Also, you guys refuse to consider the European model as the USA is vastly different, but how is Hong Kong similar?
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why the heck would i want that
Did you even read the text? 
Even if students make up the majority of the protesting movements, this is not the centerpiece of the article. It's more about the problems described there, particularly that the increase in output and wealth, as everywhere, gets distributed very disproportionally.
Hong Kong is ineuqal as fuck by virtually all measurements. Gini being the most prominent probably.
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@Bjerknes googled a bit and found this article http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579381112025475836
Even if students make up the majority of the protesting movements, this is not the centerpiece of the article. It's more about the problems described there, particularly that the increase in output and wealth, as everywhere, gets distributed very disproportionally.
Hong Kong is ineuqal as fuck by virtually all measurements. Gini being the most prominent probably.
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@Bjerknes googled a bit and found this article http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304703804579381112025475836
i have provided a place where theres little govt intervention and is a success economically, the rest is your guessing to explain the gaussian distribution of of class and why it is not perfect.
even if were to agree that gini means anything, the causation relation between this disproportion and the system having generated it is your personal conclusion which ignores a very important fact in the history of hong kong and that is the immigration of the mainland chinese. If it is such a bad palce i wonder why all these people wanna be there.
Did you even read the text?
Even if students make up the majority of the protesting movements, this is not the centerpiece of the article. It's more about the problems described there, particularly that the increase in output and wealth, as everywhere, gets distributed very disproportionally.
Hong Kong is ineuqal as fuck by virtually all measurements. Gini being the most prominent probably.
Even if students make up the majority of the protesting movements, this is not the centerpiece of the article. It's more about the problems described there, particularly that the increase in output and wealth, as everywhere, gets distributed very disproportionally.
Hong Kong is ineuqal as fuck by virtually all measurements. Gini being the most prominent probably.
Just mentioned Gini as it's the most well-known, I agree that it is very very flawed. But you don't object to Hong Kong being very inqueal in it's distribution of wealth & income?
Also, that last argument doesn't hold much weight. Just because regions around it are even worse off doesn't mean that Hong Kong's model should be followed. Not to mention that Hong Kong has in the past century enjoyed more than a few very important rather unique factors increasing its wealth compared to the rest of the region.
Also, my original point still stands.
Also, that last argument doesn't hold much weight. Just because regions around it are even worse off doesn't mean that Hong Kong's model should be followed. Not to mention that Hong Kong has in the past century enjoyed more than a few very important rather unique factors increasing its wealth compared to the rest of the region.
Also, my original point still stands.
now whos twisting and turning?
fine it's disproportionate*, now prove to me it is the system that created the disproportion, you can't and wont, the biggest reason for the 'disproportion' is the invasion of low skilled workers and the chinese super rich, which have skewed the graph on both directions, which is once again a testament to the success of the system, your original point doesnt stand and i expect an objective person like yourself to see the error in his ways in this instance
*i dont agree with this of course, i find it a silly measure which tells very little about an economy
fine it's disproportionate*, now prove to me it is the system that created the disproportion, you can't and wont, the biggest reason for the 'disproportion' is the invasion of low skilled workers and the chinese super rich, which have skewed the graph on both directions, which is once again a testament to the success of the system, your original point doesnt stand and i expect an objective person like yourself to see the error in his ways in this instance
*i dont agree with this of course, i find it a silly measure which tells very little about an economy
ocelot asked for a model with little intervention and doesnt cause the crazy 'disproportion', i offered hong kong which is just that.
you two give me some statistics from 2013/14, detailing disproportion, failing to prove that it is the result of the economic system and not other factors.
got it now?
you two give me some statistics from 2013/14, detailing disproportion, failing to prove that it is the result of the economic system and not other factors.
got it now?
I get that, but the burden of proof obviously isn't on us here. It's on you. You provided us with an example of a state with crazy disproportion and then say the economic system didn't cause it. That's all fine and dandy, but it's not what Ocelot asked. He asked for an example without said disproportion. You failed to deliver.
first of all i disagreed with this notion of disproportion which plain old silly, because it is subjective and doesnt tell anything about the state of an economy. As for burdens of proof, it's really simple, look at hong kong before it went back to the chinese. Now to the failures here, the only one i see is intellectual dishonesty, if you were really interested in looking for the truth as opposed to defending your point you'd see that i have provided a good example and even explained for you an element that i dont believe in convincingly yet you remain entrenched in your position.