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[Hængebøffer]

I suspected as much. I guess Nzoric is talking of measures that might have a similar effect.

The state doesen't interfere in these matters (at least till two years ago, but that's a long story). You can read about here:
http://denmark.dk/en/society/welfare/flexicurity/

 

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[Maddy]

The state doesen't interfere in these matters (at least till two years ago, but that's a long story). You can read about here:
http://denmark.dk/en/society/welfare/flexicurity/

Wait, what?

Can't be true in this Socialist Hellhole.

Must be liek Global Warming, soemthing the Leninist have invented to fit the agenda.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Wait, what?

Can't be true in this Socialist Hellhole.

Must be liek Global Warming, soemthing the Leninist have invented to fit the agenda.

But they would bitch and moan anyway.
Wait till they learn that Marx was anti immigration.

 

[Ocelot]

The state doesen't interfere in these matters (at least till two years ago, but that's a long story). You can read about here:
http://denmark.dk/en/society/welfare/flexicurity/

So what does Nzoric mean? You got something like collective trade union negotiations (don't know if there's a proper English term for that, we call it Tarifvertrag over here)?

 

[Maddy]

So what does Nzoric mean? You got something like collective trade union negotiations (don't know if there's a proper English term for that, we call it Tarifvertrag over here)?

We have a de facto minimum wage that's agreed upon by Unions and Employers, but it's not ordained by Law. And I guess we have another one as well, since the unemployment benefit creates a minimum wage (at least in economic theory).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexicurity

 

[Ocelot]

We have a de facto minimum wage that's agreed upon by Unions and Employers, but it's not ordained by Law. And I guess we have another one as well, since the unemployment benefit creates a minimum wage (at least in economic theory).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexicurity

In general or per sector of industry? Is everyone covered by this or are contract workers (another word where translation is unclear to me, Leiharbeiter in German) and other types of precarious employment excluded?

 

[Hængebøffer]

But you don't have to be in a union to work. I don't know how minimum wage works in other countries. If my dad had to pay you according to the work agreement, he would tell you to find another job.
Globalization is one of reasons that a lot of people here want a minimum wage

 

[Hængebøffer]

In general or per sector of industry? Is everyone covered by this or are contract workers (another word where translation is unclear to me, Leiharbeiter in German) and other types of precarious employment excluded?

The agreements are voluntary.

Edit: Forget this.

 

[Maddy]

In general or per sector of industry? Is everyone covered by this or are contract workers (another word where translation is unclear to me, Leiharbeiter in German) and other types of precarious employment excluded?

Per sector of industry.

If the employer (a factory as an example) has committed to the agreement, then everyone working there is included. But in a factory there will most likely be a lot of different agreements one for the managers, one the factory workers, one for the engineers and so on.

This is an example of the Industry Agreement: http://di.dk/Shop/Dokumenter/Produktside/Pages/Produktside.aspx?productId=5286

 

[Hængebøffer]

Per sector of industry.

If the employer (a factory as an example) has committed to the agreement, then everyone working there is included. But in a factory there will most likely be a lot of different agreements one for the managers, one the factory workers, one for the engineers and so on.

This is an example of the Industry Agreement: http://di.dk/Shop/Dokumenter/Produktside/Pages/Produktside.aspx?productId=5286

We do secure jobs for a lot of djøffere

 

[Maddy]

Globalization is one of reasons that a lot of people here want a minimum wage

The über liberal/right-wing idea of free labour movement within the European Union is one of the biggest challenges for the Danish Unions.

Happily more and more Rumanians, Poles and the likes are joining the Unions.

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We do secure jobs for a lot of djøffere

Speaking of, they have their 'nytårskur' today

 

[Hængebøffer]

The über liberal/right-wing idea of free labour movement within the European Union is one of the biggest challenges for the Danish Unions.

Happily more and more Rumanians, Poles and the likes are joining the Unions.

Yeah and RyanAir learned the hard way.

 

[Maddy]

Yeah and RyanAir learned the hard way.

Don't hate on a selfmade man, Stalin.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Don't hate on a selfmade man, Stalin.

I honestly couldn't care. I'm more liberal on this matter.

 

[Maddy]

I honestly couldn't care. I'm more liberal in this matter.

Settle down, X.

 

[Ocelot]

But you don't have to be in a union to work. I don't know how minimum wage works in other countries. If my dad had to pay you according to the work agreement, he would tell you to find another job.
Globalization is one of reasons that a lot of people here want a minimum wage

Yeah in Austria those union negotiated contracts used to cover virtually all of the workforce, with a few different sub-unions negotiating every year for their respective branches of industry (metal, retail, civil servants,....). But in the past 2-3 decades this coverage decreased year by year, and continues to decrease, at an accelerated pace even I believe, exactly because of the rise in the share of atypical employment situations, especially temporary contracted jobs that aren't part of any union contract agreement.

 

[Seven]

Per sector of industry.

If the employer (a factory as an example) has committed to the agreement, then everyone working there is included. But in a factory there will most likely be a lot of different agreements one for the managers, one the factory workers, one for the engineers and so on.

This is an example of the Industry Agreement: http://di.dk/Shop/Dokumenter/Produktside/Pages/Produktside.aspx?productId=5286

This is like a CBA thing?

 

[Bjerknes]

What a $#@!ing man


Now that's the definition of genuine, a term bizzarely used for Trump in this thread before.

It might be bizarre to you, but that's what some folks think of him.

Well.. It is pretty high, I'll give you that. But a minimum wage is not a bad idea in itself.

It's terrible for a number of reasons. Firms will either have to layoff staff or increase prices on goods. Just let the market set the price -- a lot of these jobs take no skill whatsoever and should be held by high school kids.

 

[DAiDEViL]

it hurts my eyes sometimes. team up with juliano.

 

[Bjerknes]

Speaking of which, everything about your account hurts my eyes. :faq2: