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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,702
it wasn’t pointed out to you in general, just something I’ve been seeing.

just because she’s arrogant, doesn’t mean it’s because of where she’s from tho, that was my point
:tup:

Then I misunderstood, my bad bro.

Her arrogance comes from the way she looks down on you. "I'm the joke, Gordo is a piece of shit, and Andy is unfixable".

I appreciate you, Ronn, Greg, etc even though you all nearly always disagree with me but I'd never ever call any of you a piece of shit. I'll state my business and why I don't agree but got too much respect for you guys to do that even if you don't respect me or my opinions. I lost all respect for Hoori.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
:tup:

Then I misunderstood, my bad bro.

Her arrogance comes from the way she looks down on you. "I'm the joke, Gordo is a piece of shit, and Andy is unfixable".

I appreciate you, Ronn, Greg, etc even though you all nearly always disagree with me but I'd never ever call any of you a piece of shit. I'll state my business and why I don't agree but got too much respect for you guys to do that even if you don't respect me or my opinions. I lost all respect for Hoori.
I respect you bro, I just disagree with you a lot

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This is unbelievably sad to me. We are launching ourselves into a global recession when it is entirely avoidable.
im hoping it helps for when I try to buy a house early next year :xfingers:
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,783
I respect you bro, I just disagree with you a lot

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im hoping it helps for when I try to buy a house early next year :xfingers:
In an ideal world, but instead you're going to have foreign hedge funds and rich people buying up the now cheap houses as an investment, keeping prices high. I don't understand how this shit is legal, it's directly siphoning money from the American middle/lower class directly to (mostly) the Chinese.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/05/foreign-investors-are-piling-into-this-coronavirus-safe-haven.html
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
In an ideal world, but instead you're going to have foreign hedge funds and rich people buying up the now cheap houses as an investment, keeping prices high. I don't understand how this shit is legal, it's directly siphoning money from the American middle/lower class directly to (mostly) the Chinese.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/05/foreign-investors-are-piling-into-this-coronavirus-safe-haven.html
An executive order would come in handy in times like these.
 

Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
20,864
This is unbelievably sad to me. We are launching ourselves into a global recession when it is entirely avoidable.
I read that some time during great depression Senate had only one session in 14 months (the number may not be 100% accurate but it's in the ballpark). That poll is alarming, much more than the politics of presidential election.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
She acted like an arrogant a-hole on her post to me. Her rant had zero to do with the post she quoted of mine. She loves coming here to blow off steam. I never told her to go back.
Well, you do push the limits. She let herself get triggered.

Wasn't Murica built by black slaves? They never should have sailed there with their ships.
:D

That's a myth, though. Black slaves helped establish it as viable, but it was not built on that. America was built on abundant resources and no natural border enemies during WW II when everyone was blowing up the crap out of each other. Before then, America was the Udinese of the world. The slaves were its Seko Fofana.

In an ideal world, but instead you're going to have foreign hedge funds and rich people buying up the now cheap houses as an investment, keeping prices high. I don't understand how this shit is legal, it's directly siphoning money from the American middle/lower class directly to (mostly) the Chinese.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/05/foreign-investors-are-piling-into-this-coronavirus-safe-haven.html
Interesting...

Though you know the Chinese have been siphoning money from the American lower/middle classes as long as Walmart has existed.

Yeah, agree on that. I think the hammer is going to drop on China soon from our standpoint. Signs are there I think...
But it's not just China. This is good old capitalism in action. Buy up distressed resources because it's a better place to sink your money. Russian oligarchs, Malaysian con artists, Nigerian scam kings included.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,702
Well, you do push the limits. She let herself get triggered.

But it's not just China. This is good old capitalism in action. Buy up distressed resources because it's a better place to sink your money. Russian oligarchs, Malaysian con artists, Nigerian scam kings included.
Part a) Push the limits? I haven't spoken to her directly in weeks (literally). She quoted me, bolded a portion about Tulsi Gabbard, and went on a rant about riots and bad cops which has nothing to do with my post. You don't see the issue there?

Part b) Do you see China as an issue heading into the next couple decades?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Part a) Push the limits? I haven't spoken to her directly in weeks (literally). She quoted me, bolded a portion about Tulsi Gabbard, and went on a rant about riots and bad cops which has nothing to do with my post. You don't see the issue there?

Part b) Do you see China as an issue heading into the next couple decades?
The part about bad cops was a reply to Lgor, but I gues you have him blocked lol
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
Part a) Push the limits? I haven't spoken to her directly in weeks (literally). She quoted me, bolded a portion about Tulsi Gabbard, and went on a rant about riots and bad cops which has nothing to do with my post. You don't see the issue there?

Part b) Do you see China as an issue heading into the next couple decades?
a) You're being testy and zesty like a blue-blooded Murican. :D

b) Yes. American identity is still largely white identity, which is really uncomfortable serving another cultural leader.

I see this even in silly things like AI. When people freak out about generalized AI rising up and enslaving humanity, it's always white dudes. Sure, more white dudes are doing AI research. But I am convinced now that this is because they fear what it means to not be at the top of the power heap. Women, brown people, etc. -- this is just called "life". They get on with it.

This fear is also behind a lot of Trumpsters too ... the silent worry of being tortured, abused, and at least discriminated against the very same ways that many whites have been guilty of for centuries. It's why the Trump cabinet is almost entirely white dudes in suits. That's really the unwritten racial resistance about America's inevitable demographic changes, whether it's because of police containment of blacks, visceral reactions to diversity efforts, to immigration paranoia.

The difference with China is that the US simply cannot bully them into a corner with cops and policies. The best they can do is ban Huawei.

China still has to contend with whether it grows old before it grows rich. But any young person in China sees America as a sick old Boomer who needs to step aside for a young generation that is smarter, faster, more educated, and growing ever more dominant in the world. America to them is a little like how Europe is when Americans snicker about it. They see America's downward trend as inevitable.

China's version of America's caste system Achilles-heel, however, is its Communist Party base. The economy is modern, but the politics are straight outta 1962. A big question is whether that could eventually be a strategic advantage or something harmful. There is a lot to argue that COVID is proving communitarianism as a societal advantage over individual atomism, as reflected in the impacts to China vs the US. I'm a believer that any system isn't nearly as good as the people implementing it -- that you can get a benevolent dictatorship that is far more effective and merciful than a democracy could be. It just depends on who is implementing it in their image.

Because if you are in the governance and politics game these days, the US is a Dumpster fire whereas China's totalitarian state at least seems to be responding better to the challenges of the world today ... i.e, responding at all, versus knifing itself in an alley and getting nothing done as the US is.

This split is going to play out in the next couple of decades. And seeing that the biggest problems in the world are more collectivist problems than individual ones, thus far I am leaning towards the communitarianism side winning out as an evolutionary strategy.

China is awful, how can we strike back?

introduce them to deep fried oreos? i doubt their digestive systems can handle it.
Cheese, man, lots and lots of cheese. https://ltl-school.com/lactose-intolerance-in-china/

I'll drink to that. :vodka:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7480358/
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,783
I read that some time during great depression Senate had only one session in 14 months (the number may not be 100% accurate but it's in the ballpark). That poll is alarming, much more than the politics of presidential election.
What a cushy job it must be. Come into work a few times a year, watch people yell at each other, and MAYBE vote on something every now and then.

Interesting...

Though you know the Chinese have been siphoning money from the American lower/middle classes as long as Walmart has existed.
Of course :p. But China aside, even if it's Russian buying a 6th property to park money in, or a German consortium looking to hedge against risk somewhere else, it's the concept behind it. We're talking about half of your monthly income in the case of renting, and much higher mortgages in the case of buying.
 

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