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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Clinton was 43, Bush and Obama around 50.

Why can't they find someone younger these days?
good question, they need younger people. I can’t wait until Alexandra Cortez runs for office.

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Donald is virile aside from being 10 years younger in 2016 than Comrade Sanders is gonna be in 2020
he has saved his energy, much like a battery. Who knows how much time he has left, it could be a very very long time. It’s incredible.
 
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KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
30,467
Why isn't anyone from Republican party challenging Trump for primaries?

They all seem to think trumpism is the only way forward for party and personal politics. Weird.

It hasn't happened in modern U.S. history. For the most part, incumbent presidents who didn't win their subsequent primaries were vice-presidents who took office after the deaths of their predecessors, namely in the 19th century. The last time there was even a legitimate challenge to an incumbent was in 1980 with Ted Kennedy challenging Jimmy Carter. And to be honest, if the democrats couldn't even get rid of Jimmy Carter, then chances now or in the future of a president not getting nominated again are slim to none.

Then again, Kennedy did himself no favors with his hubris, being out of touch with the people, unlike his brothers who mastered that ability, and he couldn't even give a legitimate answer as to WHY he wanted to be president. his interviews back then are hilarious and embarrassing at the same time. As if he thought being a Kennedy gave him a god given right to be president.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
4,627
Bill Weld and Joe Walsh did; Trump got 97% of the vote in Iowa; case closed.
Who or what is a bill weld or Joe Walsh?

Not talking about the Tom steyer or deval Patrick type of candidates but actual serious ones.

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It hasn't happened in modern U.S. history. For the most part, incumbent presidents who didn't win their subsequent primaries were vice-presidents who took office after the deaths of their predecessors, namely in the 19th century. The last time there was even a legitimate challenge to an incumbent was in 1980 with Ted Kennedy challenging Jimmy Carter. And to be honest, if the democrats couldn't even get rid of Jimmy Carter, then chances now in the future of a president not getting nominated again are slim to none.
It's interesting how/why it works like that.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
30,467
Why isn't anyone from Republican party challenging Trump for primaries?

They all seem to think trumpism is the only way forward for party and personal politics. Weird.

It hasn't happened in modern U.S. history. For the most part, incumbent presidents who didn't win their subsequent primaries were vice-presidents who took office after the deaths of their predecessors, namely in the 19th century. The last time there was even a legitimate challenge to an incumbent was in 1980 with Ted Kennedy challenging Jimmy Carter. And to be honest, if the democrats couldn't even get rid of Jimmy Carter, then chances now in the future of a president not getting nominated again are slim to none.
Who or what is a bill weld or Joe Walsh?

Not talking about the Tom steyer or deval Patrick type of candidates but actual serious ones.

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It's interesting how/why it works like that.

I can't be sure, but my thinking is that if they are looking after their own political futures instead of what is best for the country, then they dare not try to upset the same people they are counting on for votes in their respective elections. Ted Kennedy didn't give a shit because he knew the Kennedy name in Massachusetts at the time guaranteed that he would never lose his Senate seat. So he really didn't have all that much to lose.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
11,039
Who or what is a bill weld or Joe Walsh?

Not talking about the Tom steyer or deval Patrick type of candidates but actual serious ones.

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It's interesting how/why it works like that.
Walsh is a former congressman, and Weld is a former governor. The reason that most do not challenge him is that he’s immensely popular among republicans, so running against him is stupid. Not only that, but republican elected officials are afraid to disagree with him because of threat of primary. Look up Mark Sanford.

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Presidents also have a lot of control on party machine.

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Deval Patrick ends his campaign. It never took off anyway. Was exactly in the race for 3 months.
 
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AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
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It hasn't happened in modern U.S. history. For the most part, incumbent presidents who didn't win their subsequent primaries were vice-presidents who took office after the deaths of their predecessors, namely in the 19th century. The last time there was even a legitimate challenge to an incumbent was in 1980 with Ted Kennedy challenging Jimmy Carter. And to be honest, if the democrats couldn't even get rid of Jimmy Carter, then chances now or in the future of a president not getting nominated again are slim to none.

Then again, Kennedy did himself no favors with his hubris, being out of touch with the people, unlike his brothers who mastered that ability, and he couldn't even give a legitimate answer as to WHY he wanted to be president. his interviews back then are hilarious and embarrassing at the same time. As if he thought being a Kennedy gave him a god given right to be president.
Sounds like a certain someone in 2016... :shifty:
 

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