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Hust

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Nah, this is more than Trump, the problems with the GOP stem from 2008 when leadership decided pandering to the lowest common denominator was more important than legislating.
I look at Trump as a bi-product of todays GOP - sooner or later a wild card emerges from the ruble of a leadershipless Congress. His resignation I think is down to the fact that the politicians in his own house are getting crushed by 3 non-politicians so the heat is on.

This has panic written all over it IMO.
 

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I look at Trump as a bi-product of todays GOP - sooner or later a wild card emerges from the ruble of a leadershipless Congress. His resignation I think is down to the fact that the politicians in his own house are getting crushed by 3 non-politicians so the heat is on.

This has panic written all over it IMO.
The GOP has been lost for the last 7 or 8 years. It's only now that they are figuring this out. Beohner is retiring because he's tired of dealing with the obstructionists in the Republican party. Next to the President, running the GOP in Congress has to be the worst job ever.

Hopefully, these non-politicians can revive the party and bring back to it's post-divisionist roots. Unfortunately, I think they're just a flash in the pan.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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The GOP has been lost for the last 7 or 8 years. It's only now that they are figuring this out. Beohner is retiring because he's tired of dealing with the obstructionists in the Republican party. Next to the President, running the GOP in Congress has to be the worst job ever.

Hopefully, these non-politicians can revive the party and bring back to it's post-divisionist roots. Unfortunately, I think they're just a flash in the pan.
Well, the voters spoke when the GOP gained both Houses again. They continue to voice their thoughts via the polls and that apparently still isn't resonating anything with the politicians.
 

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Well, the voters spoke when the GOP gained both Houses again. They continue to voice their thoughts via the polls and that apparently still isn't resonating anything with the politicians.
That's the problem. The GOP wins a mid term election and then think their inter party issues are gone. They aren't. The GOP can't govern. They prove this time and time again. It's one thing to spout vitriolic nonsense to your base during an election and swear on the bible that you'll defund this, repeal that, "take back the country" (from what no one knows), etc. It is a completely different thing to actually do this. Even with a majority in both houses, the GOP has proved incapable. There's no leadership, no common goals, no willingness to compromise for the good of the nation, no sacrifice, etc. The GOP should split. Let the hardliners go their own way and the moderates and intellectuals go another.

If the Pauls had any guts they would have started their own party years ago, but they don't so they didn't.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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That's the problem. The GOP wins a mid term election and then think their inter party issues are gone. They aren't. The GOP can't govern. They prove this time and time again. It's one thing to spout vitriolic nonsense to your base during an election and swear on the bible that you'll defund this, repeal that, "take back the country" (from what no one knows), etc. It is a completely different thing to actually do this. Even with a majority in both houses, the GOP has proved incapable. There's no leadership, no common goals, no willingness to compromise for the good of the nation, no sacrifice, etc. The GOP should split. Let the hardliners go their own way and the moderates and intellectuals go another.

If the Pauls had any guts they would have started their own party years ago, but they don't so they didn't.
I think most GOP voters know what the problems are in the party but then the "insanity" rule applies then...
 

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