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[Trequartista]

The USA making a big fuss about Russia allegedly interfering in their elections is the pot calling the kettle black.

Pure comedy

 

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[Fr3sh]

The USA making a big fuss about Russia allegedly interfering in their elections is the pot calling the kettle black.

Pure comedy

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The USA making a big fuss about Russia allegedly interfering in their elections is the pot calling the kettle black.

Pure comedy

Trump's reign may really bring about the end of the empire.

 

[Ronn]

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Works fine for me. Anyway, this is what it says:

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Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources
A padlock is displayed at the Alert Logic booth during the 2016 Black Hat cyber-security conference in Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. August 3, 2016. REUTERS/David Becker
A padlock is displayed at the Alert Logic booth during the 2016 Black Hat cyber-security conference in Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. August 3, 2016. REUTERS/David Becker
By Mark Hosenball and Jonathan Landay | WASHINGTON
The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.

While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.

The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.

Trump's rejection of the CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and the intelligence community he will soon command.

An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said.

The ODNI, headed by James Clapper, was established after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the recommendation of the commission that investigated the attacks. The commission, which identified major intelligence failures, recommended the office's creation to improve coordination among U.S. intelligence agencies.

In October, the U.S. government formally accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against American political organizations ahead of the Nov. 8 presidential election. Democratic President Barack Obama has said he warned Russian President Vladimir Putin about consequences for the attacks.

Reports of the assessment by the CIA, which has not publicly disclosed its findings, have prompted congressional leaders to call for an investigation.

Obama last week ordered intelligence agencies to review the cyber attacks and foreign intervention in the presidential election and to deliver a report before he turns power over to Trump on Jan. 20.

The CIA assessed after the election that the attacks on political organizations were aimed at swaying the vote for Trump because the targeting of Republican organizations diminished toward the end of the summer and focused on Democratic groups, a senior U.S. official told Reuters on Friday.

Moreover, only materials filched from Democratic groups - such as emails stolen from John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman - were made public via WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, and other outlets, U.S. officials said.

"THIN REED"

The CIA conclusion was a "judgment based on the fact that Russian entities hacked both Democrats and Republicans and only the Democratic information was leaked," one of the three officials said on Monday.

"(It was) a thin reed upon which to base an analytical judgment," the official added.

Republican Senator John McCain said on Monday there was "no information" that Russian hacking of American political organizations was aimed at swaying the outcome of the election.

"It's obvious that the Russians hacked into our campaigns," McCain said. "But there is no information that they were intending to affect the outcome of our election and that's why we need a congressional investigation," he told Reuters.

McCain questioned an assertion made on Sunday by Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, tapped by Trump to be his White House chief of staff, that there were no hacks of computers belonging to Republican organizations.

"Actually, because Mr. Priebus said that doesn't mean it's true," said McCain. "We need a thorough investigation of it, whether both (Democratic and Republican organizations) were hacked into, what the Russian intentions were. We cannot draw a conclusion yet. That's why we need a thorough investigation."

In an angry letter sent to ODNI chief Clapper on Monday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said he was “dismayed” that the top U.S. intelligence official had not informed the panel of the CIA’s analysis and the difference between its judgment and the FBI’s assessment.

Noting that Clapper in November testified that intelligence agencies lacked strong evidence linking Russian cyber attacks to the WikiLeaks disclosures, Nunes asked that Clapper, together with CIA and FBI counterparts, brief the panel by Friday on the latest intelligence assessment of Russian hacking during the election campaign.

 

[ALC]

Trump's reign may really bring about the end of the empire.

I personally doubt it. At this point we're to big to get brought down. May we see massive reform due to his reign as president? Hopefully.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Changes from where? This gov't looks very conservative

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm not. When you are taking over someone's entire discourse, including the words and the way he is talking, you are showing you're indoctrinated. It's problematic when big segments of the population start spouting the same nonsense Trump is, because deep down it comes from feelings of racism, misogyny and frustration, because the world needs you to do better but you know you can't and need someone to blame.

You're a white American 30 something. The world has given you everything you needed to succeed. But you didn't. That's why you vote Trump.

What a joke!

7% of two parent black families live in poverty
22% of single mom white families live in poverty

Color has nothing to do with it, but culture.

Nobody told tyrone's dad to knock up his mom and take off, leaving the mother and child with a life in poverty and at some point the son in criminality and jail.


Last time i checked, Andy was married and having a good life.



Your progressive leftist stereotyping is what made you lose the election.

I forgot, but I did intend to write it: a 30 something white American male.

Andy's not happy. He has every reason he should be. But he's not. He's just some guy who thinks life should give him more. Self-entitled as $#@!.

There will be evidence. And it will BR overwhelming. The kind of open verbal attack Obama made is unprecedented. He'd only do that if he is 100% sure.

But you can't change the results now. All this news does is make people lose faith in your democracy.

The USA making a big fuss about Russia allegedly interfering in their elections is the pot calling the kettle black.

Pure comedy

My neighbor is a high up in DC who has a lot of contacts in the intelligence community and Capitol Hill, and he says it's all pure BS. Anybody with half a brain knows this story is concocted garbage from the same folks who sold us the wars for nothing. I would have asked the retired CIA guy I know but he unfortunately passed away this weekend.

Want to know the real hacker of the elections? Our very own loving Department of Homeland Security.

http://www.ajc.com/news/more-states...erattacks-sourced-dhs/PZiJusOAfHBEeyADWj4LjP/

ONWARD DER HOMELAND!

 

[Zacheryah]

You can be so simplistic at times.

There are many ways men are at a disadvantage. Just look at divorce. I'm not some feminazi. But when you consider all possible factors, a 30 something white American male is one of the most privileged persons in the world. Personally I'd say it's even worse for us Europeans, because we get way more pampered.

yeah, just look at divorce. How exactly is that going great for especially white males ?

privileged how ?

That they and us can grow up without the dad running off ?

Whenever i turn on the leftist media, if you are black, you can get away with excessive racism like black lives matter. if you are white, there are 500 things you arent allowed to have an opinion about, and 500 other things you are forced to feel guilty for.

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The USA making a big fuss about Russia allegedly interfering in their elections is the pot calling the kettle black.

Pure comedy

Its a bit shamefull at this point.


Accept the result. Accept the loss. Try to make the best of things. Hold a mirror infront of themselves and look what they say and the people want.

Nope. Its everythings fault but themselves. They keep labelling and calling excuses. Trump rigged it, now Russia rigged it,..

And meanwhile, Obama makes sure that people on the left have the utmost scare of Trump with his outrageous outings, unseen

 

[Seven]

yeah, just look at divorce. How exactly is that going great for especially white males ?

privileged how ?

That they and us can grow up without the dad running off ?

Whenever i turn on the leftist media, if you are black, you can get away with excessive racism like black lives matter. if you are white, there are 500 things you arent allowed to have an opinion about, and 500 other things you are forced to feel guilty for.

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I think you may have misread my post regarding the divorce.

Its a bit shamefull at this point.


Accept the result. Accept the loss. Try to make the best of things. Hold a mirror infront of themselves and look what they say and the people want.

Nope. Its everythings fault but themselves. They keep labelling and calling excuses. Trump rigged it, now Russia rigged it,..

And meanwhile, Obama makes sure that people on the left have the utmost scare of Trump with his outrageous outings, unseen

Obama will have had good reasons to speak out about this. The evidence has to be overwhelming. But the questions remains if such accusations are a smart move. People have little faith in the American democracy as it is. News about rigged elections isn't going to make it any better. And changing the result now would be a disaster waiting to happen.

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My neighbor is a high up in DC who has a lot of contacts in the intelligence community and Capitol Hill, and he says it's all pure BS. Anybody with half a brain knows this story is concocted garbage from the same folks who sold us the wars for nothing. I would have asked the retired CIA guy I know but he unfortunately passed away this weekend.

Want to know the real hacker of the elections? Our very own loving Department of Homeland Security.

http://www.ajc.com/news/more-states...erattacks-sourced-dhs/PZiJusOAfHBEeyADWj4LjP/

ONWARD DER HOMELAND!

That's great for your neighbour. But it really can't be BS, because there is nothing to be gained from it. In fact I'd say it makes Hillary and the democratic party look significantly worse. And then there's the damage it is doing to American democracy. I think the only reason they would speak out about this is if it were a genuine threat. Personally I would have thought Trump would have capitalized on the occasion and say he'd look into it, because Americans deserve a better democracy. The reason he didn't is that he wants to be close to Russia I guess.

As for the world giving you everything. I was wrong. You were not given the capacity for thinking on your own it seems.

 

[swag]

All I know is that when my best friend -- a collector of bizarre political memorabilia (he owns a Spiro Agnew poster) -- tried to purchase a Donald Trump piñata from a store in the Mission District, he had to wait for them to restock. Why? Apparently customs officers decided to prevent any future piñatas from being imported from Mexico.

We're building a wall, you know. That and that's giving away jobs Mericans could do to build their own Trump piñatas.

Short end to the story: he finally got one. The woman figured out that if you tied its hair back, put a temporary beard on it, and labeled it "Southern Preacher", she again could import Trump piñatas in from Mexico.

True story, yo.

 

[icemaη]

You have interesting friends Greg

 

[Enron]

Mexicans are pretty creative. There's brewery in Puebla which makes a beer called Fuck Trump.

At my favorite area bar we step outside to throw darts or knives a board with Trump's face printed on it.

 

[Knowah]

Stepping outside to throw knives.

Ah, yes, a popular past time in modern countries all over the world...

 

[campionesidd]

Stepping outside to throw knives.

Ah, yes, a popular past time in modern countries all over the world...

They do one better in America.

 

[Ronn]

Trump's letters to former scottish first minister
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...rump-letters-abuse-ex-scottish-first-minister

 

[swag]

He's gonna be the most trollable president evah

 

[Seven]

He's gonna be the most trollable president evah

I don't understand that someone with such behavioral issues can become president. He's the equivalent of an angry toddler. And now he's in control of a nation?

 

[swag]

I don't understand that someone with such behavioral issues can become president. He's the equivalent of an angry toddler. And now he's in control of a nation?

And a nuclear arsenal

 

[Seven]

And a nuclear arsenal

Yes. That's what I really don't get. Let's say you're really spiteful for some reason and you really think Trump makes some excellent points. Even in that scenario, surely, you'd be able to see that, at the very least, he gets kind of angry for no reason whatsoever and explodes for very little things.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Yes. That's what I really don't get. Let's say you're really spiteful for some reason and you really think Trump makes some excellent points. Even in that scenario, surely, you'd be able to see that, at the very least, he gets kind of angry for no reason whatsoever and explodes for very little things.

You're REALLY underestimating how ignorant some people can be. Do you want examples? Because I can provide examples.

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Fuck it, here's a rabid dumbass anyway for you.

Because, you know, there's a "War on Christmas." Supposedly people are offended by being wished Merry Christmas, supposedly... This is a large segment of Trump voters. Is this a problem in other countries? Immense horseshittery?