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Jun 17, 2011
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America first* baby.

*Some terms and conditions apply. Israel and South Africans beholden to Russia exempt.

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Didn’t Trump dine with Nick Fuentes in Mara Lago a couple of years ago?
Good point.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825

At some point you would have to say that it does go beyond what can be considered generalizing @U Picciriddu
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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There’s a lot of Puerto Ricans in PA which is a swing state, but other Latinos like republican Mexicans for example wouldn’t be swayed by that at all. Might make more people vote tho.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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And it wasn’t even Agent Orange who said it.
It doesnt matter, it just amplifies Trump's rhetoric more, it's not even like Trump came out to denounce it. What's worse this wasn't the only 'joke' and yet JD Vance who was at that nazi rally was spewing shit about how he didn't see or hear it. Oh give me a break, time to send Adolf Trump to jail already!

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There’s a lot of Puerto Ricans in PA which is a swing state, but other Latinos like republican Mexicans for example wouldn’t be swayed by that at all. Might make more people vote tho.
About 400k Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania alone!
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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It doesnt matter, it just amplifies Trump's rhetoric more, it's not even like Trump came out to denounce it. What's worse this wasn't the only 'joke' and yet JD Vance who was at that nazi rally was spewing shit about how he didn't see or hear it. Oh give me a break, time to send Adolf Trump to jail already!

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About 400k Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania alone!
I’d say not even 100k vote. We’ll see tho. Maybe Bad Bunny sponsoring Kamala makes them more eager to go to the polls.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,897
I’d say not even 100k vote. We’ll see tho. Maybe Bad Bunny sponsoring Kamala makes them more eager to go to the polls.
When you look at the margins between Biden and Trump in these swing states at the last election, even just tens of thousands can make all the difference, I certainly can't imagine more would be voting for Trump, I can't understand why anyone would vote for someone who shits on everyone, even Americans, calling the nation the trashcan of the world, calling Michigan trash etc... You got to really hate America to want to vote for that lunatic.
 

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Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
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What would you call the people in this video?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/

Or these people at a rally in Virginia?
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I'm calling things for what they are here. Should this not be the worrying part? Or that his policies and rhetoric would attract any sizable number of these people with joy? The denial of it is really what worries me.


She doesn't have even close to "extreme left hardliners," they hate her. They see her as another capitalist and tool of "American imperialism." Generally, these people largely don't even vote because they see it as pointless. Any amount that for some reason do vote would 1) probably not be a very significant number and 2) DEFINITELY not be attending a Kamala rally.
Come on man. Just because there are nazi flags at a rally doesn’t mean actual nazis are there too. Time to open your eyes and stop following the msm propaganda.
 

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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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Calling Puerto Rico a dump is pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Trump... what a way to piss off millions of Latinos in swing states... bravo Donald... bravo :lol:
I wouldn’t lump all US Latinos into the same category. Mexicans and Cubans are pretty hardcore Trump supporters, probably the most conservative of US Latino groups. A large percentage of those groups are perfectly fine with Kill Tony’s comments.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
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Because of the exact generalisation you seem to be doing. A Kamala Harris event isn’t some Stalinistic, Mao or communist party just because she has extreme left hardliners, therefore it’s a very wrong indication if your society starts to move and frame things like that. It’s pure sensationalism from the media but the side effects will be a bigger increase in polarisation.

Its almost shocking really to see from here.
Imagine arguing that it’s the left that has caused this polarization to occur in America. You’d have to be wholly ignorant to the GOP’s tactics from at least the ‘90s onwards to believe this lol

Look up and read about guys like Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh, etc etc. The reframing of the political divide to present Democrats as the enemy of the people, as traitors to America and American values.

It’s amusing to me that after screaming about the Democrats being treasonous commie evil-doers for the past few decades ‘murican conservatives are now trying to flip the script and blame democrats for the current animosity in politics. If anything, the democrats finally grew some balls and decided to fight back.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
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Because of the exact generalisation you seem to be doing. A Kamala Harris event isn’t some Stalinistic, Mao or communist party just because she has extreme left hardliners, therefore it’s a very wrong indication if your society starts to move and frame things like that. It’s pure sensationalism from the media but the side effects will be a bigger increase in polarisation.

Its almost shocking really to see from here.
The extreme hardliners on the left aren’t voting for Kalama though. Either they’re voting for Jill Stein, Cornel West or they aren’t voting at all.

on the other hand, most of the crazies on the right are for Trump through and through.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,911
So the big question MAGA is asking, are you better off now than 4 years ago? Well, let's see.

- My 401K is up 45% in the past year
- SPX was 4000 in 2020, now SPX is 6000
- No Trump lockdowns
- My salary has risen 30%
- I pay for all my medical stuff via insurance/HSA
- Crime is seemingly down in a lot of places
- No major terror attacks (other than Jan 6)

Sure, inflation has been horrible, partly because of the Covid recovery, partly because of bad policies (policies that are generally supported by both parties), but overall it's nowhere near as bad as the Magats are saying. And with the tariffs and rounding up of people, it will just be even worse.
 

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