He also donated through ActBlue before. So at this point it’s not really known.
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This is what I was alluding to in my somewhat drunken rants last night.
The shooter was apparently outside of the active security perimeter, but the sniper details were already focused on the shooter before he supposedly fired. If the suspect was outside of the security perimeter, the sniper detail would know that, so clearly the shooter should have been ID'd as a hostile threat as soon as they saw him. But instead, they waited to fire back until after he supposedly fired. This is highly suspect.
Even the Secret Service detail looked weird, almost like low budget television series material. If you watch this event against the Reagan attempt and others, there is this weird lack of urgency, especially during the prime photo op with the Trump fist shake. My neighbor is Secret Service and he looks way more professional than these guys.
So to me, there's a lot of weird stuff going on here. Perhaps it was a real lone gunman assassination attempt, but it smells bad to me.
They will say the good guys with the gun took out the trans rights activist and we need more guns.
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Regardless, he looks like someone who could be easily manipulated. Looks like a school shooter type.
The shooter was apparently outside of the active security perimeter, but the sniper details were already focused on the shooter before he supposedly fired. If the suspect was outside of the security perimeter, the sniper detail would know that, so clearly the shooter should have been ID'd as a hostile threat as soon as they saw him. But instead, they waited to fire back until after he supposedly fired. This is highly suspect.
Even the Secret Service detail looked weird, almost like low budget television series material. If you watch this event against the Reagan attempt and others, there is this weird lack of urgency, especially during the prime photo op with the Trump fist shake. My neighbor is Secret Service and he looks way more professional than these guys.
So to me, there's a lot of weird stuff going on here. Perhaps it was a real lone gunman assassination attempt, but it smells bad to me.
They will say the good guys with the gun took out the trans rights activist and we need more guns.
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Regardless, he looks like someone who could be easily manipulated. Looks like a school shooter type.
I'm not so sure he's left or right than a confused, mixed-up 20-year-old kid with no obvious future prospects.
As with Bolsonaro, I wouldn't rule it out.
Yeah, but a $15 donation at age 17 three years ago? Amazing the conclusions people insist on drawing early based on scant evidence of anything.
I won't entertain the typical conspiracy theory here. But first of all, there's a failure in scoping the grounds to allow buildings with line-of-sight rooftops to come within 150 meters of the stage without being secured as within the event perimeter. That seems like a planning failure.
Second, it does seem odd that they had a fix on the shooter and it seemed like they may have been waiting for him to fire first. Which, for a guy with a rifle at a presidential election rally seems not at all according to protocol.
If this was Israel, that kid would have been vaporized before he reached the roofline.
Yep. The kind of people we want to give more AR-15s to and say it's freedom.
Still, the whole thing is a mess and a tragedy. People shot at the event, and even killed, just for attending. What's probably a messed up kid and now his parents who are mourning their dead son while also inciting hatred from neighbors.
The one good thing honestly is Trump didn't get killed. I wouldn't shed a tear if he keeled over with a heart attack while scarfing a Big Mac. But we already have Cheeto Jesus and don't need to make him a national martyr too.
As with Bolsonaro, I wouldn't rule it out.
Yeah, but a $15 donation at age 17 three years ago? Amazing the conclusions people insist on drawing early based on scant evidence of anything.
I won't entertain the typical conspiracy theory here. But first of all, there's a failure in scoping the grounds to allow buildings with line-of-sight rooftops to come within 150 meters of the stage without being secured as within the event perimeter. That seems like a planning failure.
Second, it does seem odd that they had a fix on the shooter and it seemed like they may have been waiting for him to fire first. Which, for a guy with a rifle at a presidential election rally seems not at all according to protocol.
If this was Israel, that kid would have been vaporized before he reached the roofline.
Yep. The kind of people we want to give more AR-15s to and say it's freedom.
Still, the whole thing is a mess and a tragedy. People shot at the event, and even killed, just for attending. What's probably a messed up kid and now his parents who are mourning their dead son while also inciting hatred from neighbors.
The one good thing honestly is Trump didn't get killed. I wouldn't shed a tear if he keeled over with a heart attack while scarfing a Big Mac. But we already have Cheeto Jesus and don't need to make him a national martyr too.
It was literally the closest building to the stage just outside of the security perimeter. Apparently even people in the crowd saw the dude on the roof with the rifle.
The Secret Service is not this unprofessional. Something is amiss here and it needs to be investigated more than "we got 'em."
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But yes indeed, if Trump was killed we would have events 1000 times worse than January 6th. Thank goodness it didn't happen.
The Secret Service is not this unprofessional. Something is amiss here and it needs to be investigated more than "we got 'em."
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But yes indeed, if Trump was killed we would have events 1000 times worse than January 6th. Thank goodness it didn't happen.
exactly my point
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Why should it matter to the NRA? As if they give a shit about Trump. Post Sandy Hook it’s obvious that there won’t be any meaningful restriction for guns in the US, and with Supreme court in the bag it doesn’t matter much who’s in the White House. Biden couldn’t do anything regarding guns either.
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Why should it matter to the NRA? As if they give a shit about Trump. Post Sandy Hook it’s obvious that there won’t be any meaningful restriction for guns in the US, and with Supreme court in the bag it doesn’t matter much who’s in the White House. Biden couldn’t do anything regarding guns either.
Came here looking rational discussion, found the same level of denial and "staged" conspiracies being spouted on X. Surprised by how much stupidity is doing the rounds. An attendee died, 2 others in critical condition, and Trump millimetres from his own death. Yeah, totally sounds like something someone would approve of, no less someone leading the polls by a considerable margin and has nothing to gain by risking everything for this unecessary 'stunt'.
Some of you are no better than the Qanon conspiracists you look down on.
Some of you are no better than the Qanon conspiracists you look down on.
Looks like the shooter might have been a big Nick Fuentes guy. Would not be surprising if true.
https://x.com/francisxwolf/status/1812340652614525181?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
We found the MAGA.
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Nope.
https://x.com/francisxwolf/status/1812340652614525181?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
We found the MAGA.
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Nope.
