'Murica! (204 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

He he's such a douche That deal to get back Barstool from Penn was something tho

Never tried that pizza either — is L&B Spumoni worth the hype btw?

I fucking love it so much . Fresh out of the oven that hits my soul.

 

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[Seven]

The U.S. is still in far better shape than most. But now it's kind of creating its own problems. Trouble is that the society has conditioned them to be softened, fat, lazy, and unable to handle inconvenience like milk-fed veal raised in a cage. It's going to have to get a lot worse before it gets much better.

Maybe.

I believe people underestimate the resiliency of the US as a country. You have a party obsessed with breaking down democracy, but at the end of the day, when it really mattered, the democratic institutions stood. Look at Brian Kemp for example. I'm sure there are plenty of things he stands for I disagree with. But forging an election was bridge too far for him.Or look at the opioid crisis. It's downright diabolical what companies did. But, again, at the end of the day, the truth does come out.

 

[swag]

Maybe.

I believe people underestimate the resiliency of the US as a country. You have a party obsessed with breaking down democracy, but at the end of the day, when it really mattered, the democratic institutions stood. Look at Brian Kemp for example. I'm sure there are plenty of things he stands for I disagree with. But forging an election was bridge too far for him.Or look at the opioid crisis. It's downright diabolical what companies did. But, again, at the end of the day, the truth does come out.

The people with the most resiliency seem to be those with the least amount of power, and hence political say, in how the nation is run.

Now as for your examples, I'm not sure you're trolling me. Great for Brian Kemp, but 50 years ago you got bipartisan impeachments of a president who resigned for far, far less than what Trump tried to pull off. I can only imagine if that was attempted again by someone who is less of an egotistical buffoon and actually had some Machiavellian tendencies. Like courting the military to his side. Or behaving more like Putin and less like he's still the star of his reality TV show.

As for the opioid crisis, there is just no way it would have gotten as far as it did in most saner countries that aren't as easily blinded by the easy money of misery capitalism.

 

[Seven]

The people with the most resiliency seem to be those with the least amount of power, and hence political say, in how the nation is run.

Now as for your examples, I'm not sure you're trolling me. Great for Brian Kemp, but 50 years ago you got bipartisan impeachments of a president who resigned for far, far less than what Trump tried to pull off. I can only imagine if that was attempted again by someone who is less of an egotistical buffoon and actually had some Machiavellian tendencies. Like courting the military to his side. Or behaving more like Putin and less like he's still the star of his reality TV show.

As for the opioid crisis, there is just no way it would have gotten as far as it did in most saner countries that aren't as easily blinded by the easy money of misery capitalism.

Oh don't get me wrong.

In any normal country you wouldn't be having these problems. Not even close. It's absolutely crazy. The sheer notion that a doctor would be used to prescribe as much oxycontin as possible and nothing would happen is just laughable in Belgium. After surgery you get paracetamol and that's it lol. We'll talk opioids when you're dying. My point is just that, in the end, there might be enough sane people around.

 

[Ronn]

In a sense I believe there is great cause for optimism, because there are quite a few ways society could change for the better and Americans seem to be rallying behind those solutions. Mostly I'm looking at stuff like universal healthcare and better minimum wages. These are things that could have a massive impact on American society.

I realise these changes won't happen overnight, but with healthcare in particular people were screaming "communism" just a few years ago. Today most accept it's just the way forward.

They do?

 

[Seven]

They do?

They do.

If this is something you'd decide by referendum, I'm sure you'd have it.

But it's not really about individual problems. I think people are way too pessimistic when it comes to the US. Not everything about it is great, no. But that goes for other countries too.

 

[Ronn]

They do.

If this is something you'd decide by referendum, I'm sure you'd have it.

But it's not really about individual problems. I think people are way too pessimistic when it comes to the US. Not everything about it is great, no. But that goes for other countries too.

Any data?

 

[swag]

Oh don't get me wrong.

In any normal country you wouldn't be having these problems. Not even close. It's absolutely crazy. The sheer notion that a doctor would be used to prescribe as much oxycontin as possible and nothing would happen is just laughable in Belgium. After surgery you get paracetamol and that's it lol. We'll talk opioids when you're dying. My point is just that, in the end, there might be enough sane people around.

Here in Portugal I laugh because Tylenol requires a prescription. And if you buy something over the counter as innocuous as melatonin, nothing comes in larger doses than 1mg when they hand out 12mg melatonin gummie bears in the U.S. like candy.

 

[Seven]

Here in Portugal I laugh because Tylenol requires a prescription. And if you buy something over the counter as innocuous as melatonin, nothing comes in larger doses than 1mg when they hand out 12mg melatonin gummie bears in the U.S. like candy.

It's a very different medical culture and mentality.

You can see it in other aspects too. For example in America it's not that out of the ordinary to prescribe anti anxiety meds. In Europe something is really wrong if you take those.

Or stuff like testosterone injections for older men. Pretty normal in the States. Never even heard of someone doing that here.

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[AFL_ITALIA]

Here in Portugal I laugh because Tylenol requires a prescription. And if you buy something over the counter as innocuous as melatonin, nothing comes in larger doses than 1mg when they hand out 12mg melatonin gummie bears in the U.S. like candy.

Aren't hard drugs legal in Portugal?

 

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Aren't hard drugs legal in Portugal?

id imagine its decriminalized not legal so you wont go to jail but you cant buy it at CVS

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

id imagine its decriminalized not legal so you wont go to jail but you cant buy it at CVS

And you can't buy Tylenol either, so I guess all that's left is potato chips and makeup.

 

[Fab Fragment]

Here in Portugal I laugh because Tylenol requires a prescription. And if you buy something over the counter as innocuous as melatonin, nothing comes in larger doses than 1mg when they hand out 12mg melatonin gummie bears in the U.S. like candy.

Not allowing Tylenol an OTC status is a little too extreme. OTOH, the US is, or at least was, way too liberal with narcotics.

The US has at least tried hard to limit narcotics (at times stupidly, though). We still have a long ways to go but have way too many people already addicted to prescription narcotic’s. Most likely going to take several more years before the perception of getting easy narcotics is significantly altered in the mind of the general populace.

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I think that we have done very well with cutting down on smoking.

 

[Enron]

We’ve come along in regards to tobacco use but that’s mostly due to the big trials in the 90s and what they put in the spotlight. The same can be said for oxy I’m the 2000s though with far less media coverage. There’s always something being peddled. Big pharmaceutical companies are probably doing the most damage to American health and wellbeing.

Consider this. The US is one of the only countries that allows pharma ads on television. They tell you ask your doctor for their medication. Insanity.

 

[swag]

And you can't buy Tylenol either, so I guess all that's left is potato chips and makeup.

In Portugal potato chips require a prescription.




Ok, I jest. Portugal is a potato chip-crazy nation. They have entire aisles of them and yogurt in supermarkets.

 

[Ronn]

In Portugal potato chips require a prescription.




Ok, I jest. Portugal is a potato chip-crazy nation. They have entire aisles of them and yogurt in supermarkets.

I can live off potato chips and yogurt for a whole month. It’s a match made in Heaven.

 

[swag]

I can live off potato chips and yogurt for a whole month. It’s a match made in Heaven.

Mediterranean diet, bruh.

(I laugh, because Portugal isn't on the Mediterranean.)

 

[Post Ironic]

It's a very different medical culture and mentality.

You can see it in other aspects too. For example in America it's not that out of the ordinary to prescribe anti anxiety meds. In Europe something is really wrong if you take those.

Or stuff like testosterone injections for older men. Pretty normal in the States. Never even heard of someone doing that here.

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I love the US in a lot of ways, but the medical/pharma culture down there is pretty fucked up.

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[Seven]

We’ve come along in regards to tobacco use but that’s mostly due to the big trials in the 90s and what they put in the spotlight. The same can be said for oxy I’m the 2000s though with far less media coverage. There’s always something being peddled. Big pharmaceutical companies are probably doing the most damage to American health and wellbeing.

Consider this. The US is one of the only countries that allows pharma ads on television. They tell you ask your doctor for their medication. Insanity.

There are ads in Belgium for some very mild medications.

Like stuff to prevent UTI's or very weak otc painkillers. To be honest if it was up to me I'd get those ads off the tv as well, but that's as far as it goes.

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[Seven]

Not allowing Tylenol an OTC status is a little too extreme. OTOH, the US is, or at least was, way too liberal with narcotics.

The US has at least tried hard to limit narcotics (at times stupidly, though). We still have a long ways to go but have way too many people already addicted to prescription narcotic’s. Most likely going to take several more years before the perception of getting easy narcotics is significantly altered in the mind of the general populace.

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I think that we have done very well with cutting down on smoking.

Yes and no for tylenol.

Personally I almost never use painkillers. The times I have would have been times I'd see a doctor anyway. But I have used paracetamol with my kid, because even when he's not really ill at all he will immediately develop a high fever when he's got a cold or something. And toddlers get colds every five seconds. So it would suck to need a prescription every time.

On the other hand paracetamol is more toxic than people realise. With children parents sometimes misread the dose they need to give, but adults can wrongly assume it's not dangerous to take a lot.

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