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Quite remarkable! According to this study, Mozilla now has 7%+ of the market, while IE is below 90%..
arty:
http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox34.html
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Mozilla's browsers global usage share is 7.35 percent according to OneStat.com
Amsterdam - November 22 2004 - OneStat.com ( www.onestat.com ), the number one provider of real-time web analytics, today reported that Mozilla's browsers have a total global usage share of 7.35 percent. The new Mozilla's Firefox has a total usage share of 4.58. The total usage share of Mozilla was 2.1 percent at the end of May. Microsoft's Internet Explorer still dominates the global browser market with a global usage share of 88,90 percent which is 5 percent less as at the end of May.
"It seems that people are switching from Microsoft's Internet Explorer to Mozilla's new Firefox browser. The total usage share of Microsoft declined 5 percent and the total usage share of Mozilla increased 5 percent," said Niels Brinkman, co-founder of OneStat.com.
Microsoft's IE 6 is currently the leading browser on the web. Microsoft's IE 6 global usage has increased with 11.65 percent from 69.3 percent to 80.95 percent since May 2004.
Opera's global usage share is 1.33 percent and Safari has a global usage of 0.91 percent.
The most popular browsers on the web are:
1. Microsoft IE 6.0 80.95%
2. Microsoft IE 5.0 4.18%
3. Microsoft IE 5.5 3.66%
4. Mozilla Firefox 0.1 2.79%
5. Mozilla 1.x 2.77%
6. Mozilla Firefox 1.0 1.79%
7. Opera 7.x 1.29%
OneStat.com is the number one provider of real-time web site analytics in the world. Our superior technology powers more than 50,000 websites in 100 countries. With our accurate, detailed & reliable reports we will be able to answer questions about visitor behaviour, site performance and retention.
The OneStat.com solutions provide executives, marketers and webmasters with answers to critical e-business questions such as:
· Who is visiting my website?
· How many pageviews, visits (sessions) and visitors are coming on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly or yearly basis?
· What content, products, and services do my visitors prefer?
· How many visitors return to the website and how often?
· What kind of search engine do they use?
· What kind of technology do your visitors use to view the website?
· What is the return on investment of my advertising campaigns?
· How do I identify significant trends?
· How much time do they spent on the website?
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com's services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last week and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day.
Quite remarkable! According to this study, Mozilla now has 7%+ of the market, while IE is below 90%..
arty:http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox34.html
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Mozilla's browsers global usage share is 7.35 percent according to OneStat.com
Amsterdam - November 22 2004 - OneStat.com ( www.onestat.com ), the number one provider of real-time web analytics, today reported that Mozilla's browsers have a total global usage share of 7.35 percent. The new Mozilla's Firefox has a total usage share of 4.58. The total usage share of Mozilla was 2.1 percent at the end of May. Microsoft's Internet Explorer still dominates the global browser market with a global usage share of 88,90 percent which is 5 percent less as at the end of May.
"It seems that people are switching from Microsoft's Internet Explorer to Mozilla's new Firefox browser. The total usage share of Microsoft declined 5 percent and the total usage share of Mozilla increased 5 percent," said Niels Brinkman, co-founder of OneStat.com.
Microsoft's IE 6 is currently the leading browser on the web. Microsoft's IE 6 global usage has increased with 11.65 percent from 69.3 percent to 80.95 percent since May 2004.
Opera's global usage share is 1.33 percent and Safari has a global usage of 0.91 percent.
The most popular browsers on the web are:
1. Microsoft IE 6.0 80.95%
2. Microsoft IE 5.0 4.18%
3. Microsoft IE 5.5 3.66%
4. Mozilla Firefox 0.1 2.79%
5. Mozilla 1.x 2.77%
6. Mozilla Firefox 1.0 1.79%
7. Opera 7.x 1.29%
OneStat.com is the number one provider of real-time web site analytics in the world. Our superior technology powers more than 50,000 websites in 100 countries. With our accurate, detailed & reliable reports we will be able to answer questions about visitor behaviour, site performance and retention.
The OneStat.com solutions provide executives, marketers and webmasters with answers to critical e-business questions such as:
· Who is visiting my website?
· How many pageviews, visits (sessions) and visitors are coming on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly or yearly basis?
· What content, products, and services do my visitors prefer?
· How many visitors return to the website and how often?
· What kind of search engine do they use?
· What kind of technology do your visitors use to view the website?
· What is the return on investment of my advertising campaigns?
· How do I identify significant trends?
· How much time do they spent on the website?
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com's services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last week and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day.
With mozilla its annoying how it still dosent work on certain sites, like banking sites, ecommerce sites etc. Whats the point using a browser that cant handle the most important part of the internet?
Bring on IE7 I say.
And i love the new MSN search. The image search is fantastic.
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Tabbed browsing
Built in msn search feature
Actually works with secure sites
Skinable
Some Nice Skins unlike Firefox
Tabbed browsing
Built in msn search feature
Actually works with secure sites
Skinable
Some Nice Skins unlike Firefox
has tabbed browsing (old stuff)
Works only with sites that follow standard set desgin rules.
Skinable
'Nice' is in the eye of the beholder
(that definition is close enough to "beautiful" )From what I've heard about it, it doesn't sound like it. Of course we won't know until it comes out.
Meaning? Even lynx implements ssl fully. The only reason certain websites don't work as they should in gecko is that the web designers who built them are/were braindead.
Meaning? Even lynx implements ssl fully. The only reason certain websites don't work as they should in gecko is that the web designers who built them are/were braindead.
No it seems to be sites that require a certain security.
Sites like:
www.national-lottery.co.uk - My lottery site
www.halifax.co.uk - My banking site
Im pretty sure the people who designed these sites are pros
Firefox also has problems when sending a file with an attachment in gmail.
Even this forum has a problem. The new private message open in a new window popup dosent work.
I dont mean to bash it, but if it dosent work I cant smile say its a fantastic product.
Sites like:
www.national-lottery.co.uk - My lottery site
www.halifax.co.uk - My banking site
Im pretty sure the people who designed these sites are pros
Firefox also has problems when sending a file with an attachment in gmail.
Even this forum has a problem
. The new private message open in a new window popup dosent work.I dont mean to bash it, but if it dosent work I cant smile say its a fantastic product.
National Lottery site just dosent work at all. Invalid browser or something. I guess it just hasnt been designed for firefox.
Halifax and GMAIL both try to work, takes forever before finally timing out.
Sucks to have to keep switching back to IE to use certain sites. Many people must have this problem.
PM thing your probably right. Its not worth losing popup blocking
All im saying though is people will use what works best for them, so if Firefox dont fix these things then people like me arent gonna hang around when a new IE has the same features. Which it will, they would be extremely dumb not to add them.
Halifax and GMAIL both try to work, takes forever before finally timing out.
Sucks to have to keep switching back to IE to use certain sites. Many people must have this problem.
PM thing your probably right. Its not worth losing popup blocking
All im saying though is people will use what works best for them, so if Firefox dont fix these things then people like me arent gonna hang around when a new IE has the same features. Which it will, they would be extremely dumb not to add them.
:dielaugh:Nothing says incompetence louder than this message. Netscape 7 is derived from the same codebase as Firefox and also uses Gecko, thus the browser engine is exactly the same. And just because web designers who are "pros" produce websites that work in IE doesn't mean they aren't braindead or at least lazy to validate their code.
I don't know about your bank or gmail but Firefox seems to work very well for most people who use it, otherwise it wouldn't be systematically capturing market shares, after all IE is preinstalled so why install Firefox if it doesn't work?
Having said that, I think anyone should use what works best for them. A lot of companies are switching because of the many severe vulnerabilities in IE, that always was and still is a huge problem. Testiment to that is all the spyware you have running after using IE for a while..
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
:dielaugh:
Nothing says incompetence louder than this message. Netscape 7 is derived from the same codebase as Firefox and also uses Gecko, thus the browser engine is exactly the same. And just because web designers who are "pros" produce websites that work in IE doesn't mean they aren't braindead or at least lazy to validate their code.
I don't know about your bank or gmail but Firefox seems to work very well for most people who use it, otherwise it wouldn't be systematically capturing market shares, after all IE is preinstalled so why install Firefox if it doesn't work?
Having said that, I think anyone should use what works best for them. A lot of companies are switching because of the many severe vulnerabilities in IE, that always was and still is a huge problem. Testiment to that is all the spyware you have running after using IE for a while..
:dielaugh:Nothing says incompetence louder than this message. Netscape 7 is derived from the same codebase as Firefox and also uses Gecko, thus the browser engine is exactly the same. And just because web designers who are "pros" produce websites that work in IE doesn't mean they aren't braindead or at least lazy to validate their code.
I don't know about your bank or gmail but Firefox seems to work very well for most people who use it, otherwise it wouldn't be systematically capturing market shares, after all IE is preinstalled so why install Firefox if it doesn't work?
Having said that, I think anyone should use what works best for them. A lot of companies are switching because of the many severe vulnerabilities in IE, that always was and still is a huge problem. Testiment to that is all the spyware you have running after using IE for a while..
But it doesn't work with everything and the reason is that there is a portion of IE-specific code out there. If 95% of all cars were Fords and Ford decided to invent a new road standard where the road was skewed instead of straight just to screw all the other auto makers, those building roads would have the choice between using Fords' standard, which they would know 95% of all cars could drive on, and using the internationally accepted standard. But since Ford's cars were so f. up, this would take a bit more work for them because they would have to build the roads so that normal cars could drive on them, as well as do certain things specifically for Fords. Competitors would then have a choice between build their cars to Ford's f. up standard, with all the bugs that implies. Or to build them to the actual standard.
Incompatibilities then are inevitable and it's not because Firefox is badly constructed, it's because certain websites just don't follow standards.
Incompatibilities then are inevitable and it's not because Firefox is badly constructed, it's because certain websites just don't follow standards.
I think with all the noise Firefox is making now, people everywhere are starting to take notice. I don't think there are that many websites being created today that are so IE specific that they refuse to work in Firefox. But of course many of the people who make them have had some kind of training, where they may have been taught to code a certain way.
In some cases, like online banking, the customers have made so much noise that the sites decided to do something about it.
In some cases, like online banking, the customers have made so much noise that the sites decided to do something about it.
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