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Roverbhoy

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2002
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Saw this...thought of you:D


Club World Ranking
Club-Weltrangliste
Clasificación Mundial de los Clubes
Classement Mondial des Clubs
by IFFHS

Top 300
(1st May 2002 - 29th April 2003)

1. (1.) Real Madrid CF España/4 288,0
2. (5.) Milan AC Italia/4 281,0
3. (2.) Manchester United FC England/4 278,0
4. (3.) Arsenal FC London England/4 273,0
5. (4.) FC Barcelona España/4 267,0
6. (8.) Glasgow Celtic FC Scotland/3 239,0 :D
7. (11.) FC Juventus Torino Italia/4 235,0 :cheesy:
8. (6.) SS Lazio Roma Italia/4 234,0
9. (17.) FC do Porto Portugal/3 229,0
(7.) FC Internazionale Milano Italia/4 229,0
11. (9.) Valencia CF España/4 224,0
12. (10.) Real Club Deportivo de La Coruña España/4 219,0
13. (13.) AFC Ajax Amsterdam Nederland/3 207,5
14. (14.) Liverpool FC England/4 205,0
15. (26.) Paris Saint-Germain FC France/4 198,0
16. (15.) Newcastle United FC England/4 195,0
17. (12.) AEK Athens Greece/3 193,5
18. (30.) AJ Auxerroise France/4 193,0
(22.) FC Basel Schweiz/2 193,0
20. (20.) Málaga CF España/4 192,0
21. (29.) AS Roma Italia/4 188,0
22. (16.) FC Bayern München Deutschland/4 183,0
23. (24.) SC Corinthians Paulista São Paulo Brasil/4 182,0
(33.) Grêmio Foot-Ball Porto-Alegrense Brasil/4 182,0
25. (23.) VfB Stuttgart Deutschland/4 181,0
(27.) FC Girondins de Bordeaux France/4 181,0
27. (19.) Panathinaikos Athens Greece/3 179,0
28. (28.) Club Brugge KV Belgique/3 178,0
(18.) BV Borussia Dortmund Deutschland/4 178,0
30. (25.) Feyenoord Rotterdam Nederland/3 176,5
31. (31.) Club Nacional de Football Montevideo Uruguay/3 175,5
32. (21.) CA Boca Juniors Buenos Aires Argentina/4 172,0
33. (35.) Dinamo Kiev Ukraina/2 171,0
34. (34.) Club Alianza Lima Perú/3 168,0
35. (40.) RSC Anderlecht Belgique/3 167,0
36. (37.) CD Cobreloa Calama Chile/3 163,5
37. (45.) Besiktas SK Istanbul Türkiye/3 162,5
38. (54.) Racing Club Avellaneda Argentina/4 162,0
39. (71.) Santos FC Brasil/4 158,0
40. (32.) AC Sparta Praha Ceská Republika/3 157,5
41. (46.) Hertha BSC Berlin Deutschland/4 156,0
(38.) Wisla Kraków Polska/2 156,0
43. (47.) Olympique Lyonnais France/4 155,0
44. (43.) FC Olimpia Asunción Paraguay/3 154,5
45. (39.) SK Slavia Praha Ceská Republika/3 153,0
(48.) FC Schalke 04 Deutschland/4 153,0
47. (73.) Glasgow Rangers FC Scotland/3 152,0
48. (50.) Asociación Deportivo Cali Colombia/3 151,5
(44.) Maccabi Haifa Israel/2 151,5
50. (35.) CF América Ciudad de México México/3 151,0
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
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#3
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13. (13.) AFC Ajax Amsterdam Nederland/3 207,5
Yay! We have re-entered the top-20!! :cheesy:

30. (25.) Feyenoord Rotterdam Nederland/3 176,5
This I don't get though - Feyenoord won the UEFAcup last year and yet Celtic are ranked way higher! :confused:

Any idea what these rankings are based upon, matey?
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
4,734
#4
ESPN's World Club Top 25: April 27, 2003
Club Country Points Last Week Comment


1. Real Madrid Spain 310.77 1 Ronaldo's hat trick sends Madrid into semis

2. Juventus Italy 293.94 3 Extra-time goal eliminates Barcelona

3. Manchester United England 274.99 2 On course for EPL title, eliminated in Europe

4. Inter Milan Italy 273.96 5 Toldo makes 10 saves as Inter eliminates Valencia

5. AC Milan Italy 271.83 6 Late Tomasson goal sends Milan into semis

6. Boca Juniors Argentina 261.74 4 Lost 1-0 vs. Paysandu in Libertadores

7. FC Porto Portugal 252.52 10 Advance to UEFA Cup final

8. Santos Brazil 249.81 8 Played 4-4 thriller vs. Nacional in Libertadores


9. Bayern Munich Germany 247.53 14 Clinched Bundesliga title


10. Arsenal England 244.45 7 Could not hold a two-goal lead in draw to Bolton

11. River Plate Argentina 244.31 9 Idle - showdown with Corinthians

12. Deportivo La Coruna Spain 234.70 11 Four points back of Real Madrid after loss to Mallorca

13. Valencia Spain 227.41 12 Return to winning ways vs. Alaves

14. Ajax Netherlands 226.28 13 Disappointing elimination from Europe

15. Celtic Scotland 224.25 19 Advance to UEFA Cup final; pull upset of Rangers

16. Corinthians Brazil 220.00 15 Meet River in Libertadores this week

17. Besiktas Turkey 218.00 16 Continue to dominate in Turkey

18. Liverpool England 216.69 21 Owen: Four goals vs. West Brom

19. Newcastle United England 215.34 18 Solano scores winner vs. Sunderland

20. Lazio Italy 211.26 17 Earn 1-1 draw at Inter

21. Borussia Dortmund Germany 209.40 20 Scoreless draw at 1860 Munich

22. PSV Netherlands 208.89 22 Continue on course for Dutch league title

23. Gremio Brazil 207.44 23 3-2 win over Olimpia in Libertadores

24. Racing Club Argentina 197.98 NR Showdown with America Cali in Libertadores

25. Stuttgart Germany 197.39 25 1-1 draw with Hansa Rostock

Dropped out:
No. 24 Barcelona (Spain)
 
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Roverbhoy

Roverbhoy

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2002
1,840
#8
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


Yay! We have re-entered the top-20!! :cheesy:



This I don't get though - Feyenoord won the UEFAcup last year and yet Celtic are ranked way higher! :confused:

Any idea what these rankings are based upon, matey?

Full details are given at.................http://www.iffhs.de/


I understand this is the FIFA approved lists.
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
#9
++ [ originally posted by Roverbhoy ] ++
I understand this is the FIFA approved lists.
That must be it then :D

Here are some quotes from that site:

The World Club Ranking was started monthly since January 1st, 1991 and the information is globally distributed early in the following month. This ranking takes into consideration the results of twelve months of continental and intercontinental competitions, national league matches (including play-offs) and the national cup. In those countries having several national cup competitions, only the one organised by the national federation is included.
All national leagues are rated at four levels based upon performance. In this grouping, each country (where the club plays) is assigned a number indicating the performance level of each national league. Clubs in the highest level leagues receive 4 points for each match won, 2 for a draw and 0 for a defeat. Level 2 is assigned 3 pts. (win), 1.5 (draw) and 0 (lost), and so on with the next lower levels. The same system applies for the play-off matches.
In the continental competitions, all clubs receive the same number of points at all stages regardless of the performance level of their leagues.
I still don't get how Celtic can be ranked over Feyenoord. Unless the Scottish league is somehow ranked higher than the Dutch league but I don't think that's the case in Uefa's rankings so why would it be the case at FIFA?
 
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Roverbhoy

Roverbhoy

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Jul 31, 2002
1,840
#10
Erik.
Even though this list has Celtic in sixth, even I know it's a load of bull. I thought I'd post it just to see the reaction.

I have no idea how they rank the leagues, but maybe the problem is that Celtic have done most for Scottish football over the last two years whereas the Dutch league can rely on two, maybe three teams boosting their ranking.

I think the league ranking on that web site have the Dutch league above the Scottish consistantly, which is ranking between 10th-13th over the last four, five years.

The ESPN list looks more probable
 
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Roverbhoy

Roverbhoy

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Jul 31, 2002
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Also, you have to remember that in the SPL Celtic usually earn 90-100 points a year which when place in the points catagory for even the second level of national leagues will heavily boost the points ratio.

In the Dutch league, the top clubs earn less points as they have harder games and better competition and although ranked higher they still won't get the same points ratio
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,556
#14
The IFFHS ratings are shitey :( Why the hell are Arsenal and Celtic ahead of us? :rolleyes:

ESPN's are definetely better :thumb:
 

Dragon

Senior Member
Apr 24, 2003
27,407
#15
ESPN's World Club Top 25: May 4, 2003
Club Country Points Last Week Comment


1. Real Madrid Spain 304.64 1 49-game home unbeaten streak snapped

2. Manchester United England 292.14 3 Clinch 8th EPL title in 11 years

3. Juventus Italy 290.32 2 Missed chance to clinch Scudetto

4. AC Milan Italy 275.25 5 2-0 winners over Como

5. Inter Milan Italy 271.12 4 1-1 draw at Atalanta

6. FC Porto Portugal 265.75 7 Clinch Portuguese title for first time since 1999

7. Boca Juniors Argentina 252.28 6 Fall one point behind River in loss to Velez

8. Bayern Munich Germany 249.88 9 Bundesliga champs after league/cup double


9. River Plate Argentina 244.57 11 2-1 win over Corinthians in Libertadores


10. Santos Brazil 239.62 8 Defending champs are four points out of first place

11. Arsenal England 239.16 10 3-2 loss to Leeds ends remote hopes of EPL title

12. Deportivo La Coruna Spain 237.86 12 Makaay scores three more in win over Recreativo

13. Ajax Netherlands 227.80 14 Van der Vaart scores three in win over RKC

Celtic Scotland 225.16 15 Rangers slip up opens door for Celtic in SPL

15. Corinthians Brazil 223.04 16 2-1 loss to River in second round of Libertadores

16. Valencia Spain 222.34 13 Drop to fifth place in La Liga

17. Newcastle United England 218.33 19 Clinched Champions Lg berth

18. Besiktas Turkey 213.67 17 On course for Turkish league title

19. Liverpool England 212.25 18 Battling Chelsea for final Champions Lg berth

20. Lazio Italy 208.43 20 Hold Juve to 0-0 draw

21. Borussia Dortmund Germany 207.24 21 2-2 draw with Wolfsburg

22. PSV Netherlands 205.25 22 Six point lead with four games remaining

23. Panathinaikos Greece 202.57 NR 21-4-3 in Greek League this season

24. Stuttgart Germany 201.01 25 Closing in on Champions League berth

25. Barcelona Spain 197.65 NR Two straight wins for Antic's club

Dropped out:
No. 23 Gremio (Brazil)
No. 24 Racing Club (Argentina)


Manchester United clinched its eighth English Premier League title in 11 years after Arsenal lost to Leeds over the weekend. Ruud van Nistelrooy continued his torrid scoring pace with three more goals against Charlton on Saturday.

Juventus is within two points of clinching the Serie A title for the fifth time in the last decade. Juve missed a chance to wrap up the title on Saturday when the club was held to a scoreless draw in Rome against Lazio.

Juve leads an Italian trio into the semifinals of the UEFA Champions League this week. Milan and Inter will square off in the first leg of the city derby to see who will advance to the May 28 final at Old Trafford.

FC Porto clinched the Portuguese league title for the first time since 1999 with a 5-0 win over Santa Clara on Sunday. Porto will aim for the double in two weeks when it faces Celtic for the UEFA Cup final in Seville.

Celtic is within three points of SPL leaders Rangers after the 'Gers were held to a 2-2 draw by Dundee on Sunday. The SPL could be decided on goal differential on the final day of the season.

Besiktas and PSV continue to dominate the Turkish and Dutch league, respectively.

The second legs of the second round of the Copa Libertadores kick off this week. Boca will need to overcome a 1-0 deficit to Paysandu. Last week, River Plate took a 2-1 first leg advantage over Corinthians in Buenos Aires.

Barcelona and Greek league leaders Panathinaikos return to the Top 25 after victories on the weekend.



juve should have been number 2 or 1 damnit
 

Slagathor

Bedpan racing champion
Jul 25, 2001
22,708
#18
++ [ originally posted by Roverbhoy ] ++
Also, you have to remember that in the SPL Celtic usually earn 90-100 points a year which when place in the points catagory for even the second level of national leagues will heavily boost the points ratio.

In the Dutch league, the top clubs earn less points as they have harder games and better competition and although ranked higher they still won't get the same points ratio
I suppose it makes sense if you put it like that...!

Tom - got your ticket yet?
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#19
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Tom - got your ticket yet?
no but not to worry, the pre season game is never sold out. We've played barca twice and lazio in recent years and there are alwaya few thousand spare
 

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