Unforunately that's all I see Zlatan doing...except for this action against Seven.
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I knew someone would bring that up. Glad you did. We believe in the bible in a sense that we accept certain things out of it, and we also believe that the bible has been changed to fit various needs. Such as it is these days with "change of time". Also, you interpret the Bible different from us, we don't interpret "Son of God" literally, because we believe that, that's been used to address others in the Bible, etc...I'm not gonna go into it in depth, unless you want me to ofcourse 
So yes, it's very possible.
So yes, it's very possible.
Zé Tahir said:
I knew someone would bring that up. Glad you did. We believe in the bible in a sense that we accept certain things out of it, and we also believe that the bible has been changed to fit various needs. Such as it is these days with "change of time". Also, you interpret the Bible different from us, we don't interpret "Son of God" literally, because we believe that, that's been used to address others in the Bible, etc...I'm not gonna go into it in depth, unless you want me to ofcourse
So yes, it's very possible.
So yes, it's very possible.
The bible you are claiming that you believe is part of the Islam,there is no such a bible. that's an idea created by non-Christians (to destroy the religion).
so all the christians are using a fake bible?what kind of logic is that Tahir (whoever told that to you).you say you believe that Christianity is a religion,then how come God will let that happen?and let the Christians read the wrong bible?
it is provocative,like some of my posts may seem here,but it's not a personal insult Imo,anyway he can defend himself.but we should be objective,that's something i don't like to hear as a believer,but you have to accept such critics like those, otherwise this thread or any other religion discussions wouldn't lead us anywhere.
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it is provocative,like some of my posts may seem here,but it's not a personal insult Imo,anyway he can defend himself.but we should be objective,that's something i don't like to hear as a believer,but you have to accept such critics like those, otherwise this thread or any other religion discussions wouldn't lead us anywhere.
anyway i have to say i am not anti-7 i generally like him i just felt he crossed the line there
OMG, here come the whiners again, led by Seven, with the "Zlatan is a fascist/nazi/commie/dictator/worst mod ever/war criminal/rapist/mass murderer..." etc.
Right.
First of all, Seven wasnt banned for just one post! I dont think I've ever banned someone for just one post (well, except once for racism), this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Fact is, I've warned Seven about his behavoiur at least 3 times in the last few weeks, probably even more, and he's had more posts reported than anyone else.
Fact is, he was banned for CONSTANTLY insulting other members in his "arguments" and disrespecting them, as well as insulting players. He calls Zlatana cunt, I warn. Him, he does it again, I warn him again. He calls him a cunt a third time, I warn him for the third time, just for him to do it again. I warned him 3 times yet he refuses to stop it. He calls other members idiots, morons, tells them to go suck Zlatan's dick, tells Vinnie that he's stupid and uneducated completely disrespecting him, he generalizes, and acts like his word is fact, arrogantly refusing to accept that anyone else is right.
But yes, he was banned because I hate him.
And even if I did hate him, even if I was waiting for the first chance to ban him, it's still all up to him, I cant do anything if he behaves. he didnt, very simple.
Now, saying that "Axl, go fuck yourself in the ass, I demand it" isnt an insult is ludacris. I understood his point, however that was not the way to make it. Imagine if I said this to someone: "I could say you're a fucking piece of shit that doesnt deserve to live because you are nothing but a fucking waste of DNA, you motherfucker. But I wont." Thats not an insult, because, after all, I didnt say it, right? Please.
Religion is one of the more delicate of discussions and issues for people, and I hope that people can keep it respectful and civilised. Whatever you may say, saying that he spits on everyones religion is EXTREMELY disrespectful. He could have made all his points but in a different way. But no, he seems to think he's untouchable here.
And the fact that Greg did nothing doesnt surprise me. Dont get me wrong, I like Greg, he's one of my favourite posters here, but he's IMO "the popular mod" rather than "the mod that does his job".
Also, again you can say that power has changed me, that I act all mighty and what not, but fact is you are wrong. First of all, what power? This is hardly any power.
Second, I have always explained every decision of mine, overturned the wrong ones, and tried to listen to everyone involved. I do perhaps come of as a bit harsh, but someone needs to do that too.
But, no, it's easier to blame Zlatan for everything rather than to look if you actually did anything wrong. Fine, whatever.
Anyways:
And just to see Seven's definition of insults:
Right.
First of all, Seven wasnt banned for just one post! I dont think I've ever banned someone for just one post (well, except once for racism), this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Fact is, I've warned Seven about his behavoiur at least 3 times in the last few weeks, probably even more, and he's had more posts reported than anyone else.
Fact is, he was banned for CONSTANTLY insulting other members in his "arguments" and disrespecting them, as well as insulting players. He calls Zlatana cunt, I warn. Him, he does it again, I warn him again. He calls him a cunt a third time, I warn him for the third time, just for him to do it again. I warned him 3 times yet he refuses to stop it. He calls other members idiots, morons, tells them to go suck Zlatan's dick, tells Vinnie that he's stupid and uneducated completely disrespecting him, he generalizes, and acts like his word is fact, arrogantly refusing to accept that anyone else is right.
But yes, he was banned because I hate him.
And even if I did hate him, even if I was waiting for the first chance to ban him, it's still all up to him, I cant do anything if he behaves. he didnt, very simple.
Now, saying that "Axl, go fuck yourself in the ass, I demand it" isnt an insult is ludacris. I understood his point, however that was not the way to make it. Imagine if I said this to someone: "I could say you're a fucking piece of shit that doesnt deserve to live because you are nothing but a fucking waste of DNA, you motherfucker. But I wont." Thats not an insult, because, after all, I didnt say it, right? Please.
Religion is one of the more delicate of discussions and issues for people, and I hope that people can keep it respectful and civilised. Whatever you may say, saying that he spits on everyones religion is EXTREMELY disrespectful. He could have made all his points but in a different way. But no, he seems to think he's untouchable here.
And the fact that Greg did nothing doesnt surprise me. Dont get me wrong, I like Greg, he's one of my favourite posters here, but he's IMO "the popular mod" rather than "the mod that does his job".
Also, again you can say that power has changed me, that I act all mighty and what not, but fact is you are wrong. First of all, what power? This is hardly any power.
Second, I have always explained every decision of mine, overturned the wrong ones, and tried to listen to everyone involved. I do perhaps come of as a bit harsh, but someone needs to do that too.
But, no, it's easier to blame Zlatan for everything rather than to look if you actually did anything wrong. Fine, whatever.
Anyways:
And just to see Seven's definition of insults:
Plz do not misquote me kind sir. I said that the bible has been changed over the coures of time, not that it's a fake or wrong bible. 2nd, again lol, you haven't done your homework. So i'll briefly explain:
The reasons why Muslims believe in the Bible and Torah, and the reason why our religions have so much in common is because we believe that all these religions were a "step" towards the final and complete religion, which WE believe is Islam. We are the only religion to believe in ALL prophets. Whether it be Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc. It is said (in the Qur'an) that more than 100,000 prophets have existed and in all parts of the World. All the teachings brought by them were words of God, and that over time they were changed, manipulated, and distorted. That is why when the Qur'an was revealed, God said that he would 'himself' make sure that this book would never bee changed, and this is a fact, you trace back to the original Qu'ran and the same exact words would be written. Because a single change to dot can change the meaning of something, so this was very important. In the Qur'an God says:
"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion"
So that's what I mean by the others being a 'step'. That is also why in the Qur'an God addresses everyone as "O People of the Book.." He's referring to the people of all 3 major religions.
The reasons why Muslims believe in the Bible and Torah, and the reason why our religions have so much in common is because we believe that all these religions were a "step" towards the final and complete religion, which WE believe is Islam. We are the only religion to believe in ALL prophets. Whether it be Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc. It is said (in the Qur'an) that more than 100,000 prophets have existed and in all parts of the World. All the teachings brought by them were words of God, and that over time they were changed, manipulated, and distorted. That is why when the Qur'an was revealed, God said that he would 'himself' make sure that this book would never bee changed, and this is a fact, you trace back to the original Qu'ran and the same exact words would be written. Because a single change to dot can change the meaning of something, so this was very important. In the Qur'an God says:
"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion"
So that's what I mean by the others being a 'step'. That is also why in the Qur'an God addresses everyone as "O People of the Book.." He's referring to the people of all 3 major religions.
A logical person wouldn't say that sentence,I advise you to read your sentence again.you mean,there was a bible that saying Jesus was a prophet,then after time they change the bible,and change it to Jesus is son og God.are you serious about this?that wouldn't be a religion,that would be the funiest ever book,TRAGEDY!
what you mean I haven't done my homework anyway??let's keep this thing in respect,I will apreciate that.
we believe in those steps too,that all the prophets sent to send the message of God to people,but when most of them killed for that,then God sent his Son at last.
what you mean I haven't done my homework anyway??let's keep this thing in respect,I will apreciate that.
we believe in those steps too,that all the prophets sent to send the message of God to people,but when most of them killed for that,then God sent his Son at last.
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