Moise Kean (23 Viewers)

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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He lost 6 kilos. It is nice to see so many of our youth players breaking into the 1st team. Fagioli, Miretti, Gatti, Soule, Illing Jr coupled with already established players and the future doesnt look so bleak any more. With this group we are set for another decade.
Crazy story about the rise of Gatti though.

2 years ago was in Serie D roflmao
 

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
17,161
Ill say it again
Kean is not a future golden ball winner but he does not suck.
He is actually a good finisher but should never be more than a sub/rotation player.
Milik should be a sub
Vlahovic is great but we need another one
 

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Sep 23, 2003
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Not sure how they were opportunistic? Because he didn't slam it in the upper corner with a long distance shot?
All of his recent goals were very nicely taken. The tap in could be lucky but still he was at the right place in the right time. Maybe he assumed the keeper might spill the ball and decided to be close in case it happens.
They have often been less opportunities he created / forced (think Dusan) and more being in the right place at the right time to shove something in that someone else either laid out for him or he cleaned up after.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Not sure how they were opportunistic? Because he didn't slam it in the upper corner with a long distance shot?
All of his recent goals were very nicely taken. The tap in could be lucky but still he was at the right place in the right time. Maybe he assumed the keeper might spill the ball and decided to be close in case it happens.
I think Kean has demonstrated an ability to find the ball. This much should be obvious by now. It's the only way he scores.

His instincts are quite decent and he has the athleticism to beat CBs to open space.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I think Kean has demonstrated an ability to find the ball. This much should be obvious by now. It's the only way he scores.

His instincts are quite decent and he has the athleticism to beat CBs to open space.
This is blatantly untrue. He has not found the ball plenty of times in the previous matches. He has managed to score 11 times in 60 games for Juve since he came back. At least half of them tap-ins or ricochets.
Uncreative, lazy, ineffective, clumsy - what I said about him 4 years ago. Still 100% valid today.

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MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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This is blatantly untrue. He has not found the ball plenty of times in the previous matches. He has managed to score 11 times in 60 games for Juve since he came back. At least half of them tap-ins or ricochets.
Uncreative, lazy, ineffective, clumsy - what I said about him 4 years ago. Still 100% valid today.

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He is definitely clumsy but I'm pretty sure he has a better goal rate than Vlahovic in the last 2 years (in Juventus) and doesn't even play exclusively as the 9.

He most likely is the Juventus player with the best goals/90 in the last 2 season. Too lazy to check. His xG is probably the highest so somehow he finds chances even playing half his matches at left wing.

It's actually crazy that his rate is higher than Vlahovic's for his career if you take out PKs.
 
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DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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This is blatantly untrue. He has not found the ball plenty of times in the previous matches. He has managed to score 11 times in 60 games for Juve since he came back. At least half of them tap-ins or ricochets.
Uncreative, lazy, ineffective, clumsy - what I said about him 4 years ago. Still 100% valid today.

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You just HATE THIS KID.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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He is definitely clumsy but I'm pretty sure he has a better goal rate than Vlahovic in the last 2 years (in Juventus) and doesn't even play exclusively as the 9.

He most likely is the Juventus player with the best goals/90 in the last 2 season. Too lazy to check. His xG is probably the highest so somehow he finds chances even playing half his matches at left wing.

It's actually crazy that his rate is higher than Vlahovic's for his career if you take out PKs.
Imagine if he played for Italiano
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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He most likely is the Juventus player with the best goals/90 in the last 2 season. Too lazy to check.
I checked. He doesn't have the best goal/minutes ratio. Vlahovic is the best in the last 2 seasons, tho not by much. Kean's record was not great, but he improved it with his 3 goals in the previous 2 matches.

Vlahovic 1 goal in 169 minutes (17 goals in 2889 minutes)
Dybala 1 goal in 174 minutes (15 goals in 2619 minutes)
Milik 1 goal in 174 minutes (6 goals in 1048 minutes)
Kean 1 goal in 179 minutes (11 goals in 1969 minutes)
Morata 1 goal in 267 minutes (12 goals in 3205 minutes)
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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I checked. He doesn't have the best goal/minutes ratio. Vlahovic is the best in the last 2 seasons, tho not by much. Kean's record was not great, but he improved it with his 3 goals in the previous 2 matches.

Vlahovic 1 goal in 169 minutes (17 goals in 2889 minutes)
Dybala 1 goal in 174 minutes (15 goals in 2619 minutes)
Milik 1 goal in 174 minutes (6 goals in 1048 minutes)
Kean 1 goal in 179 minutes (11 goals in 1969 minutes)
Morata 1 goal in 267 minutes (12 goals in 3205 minutes)
A pretty decent ratio for all of them except Morty, but youd expect a bit more from the first 2 guys on 7m and 7.5m.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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Don't let his form fool you. Most of his goals were opportunistic at best. He will go back to sucking soon. Sell now while he has a glimmer of hype.

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A 23y 1.80m kid lost 6 kilos? Big deal. Are you fucking kidding me?

As I said, lets hope he raises some positive value. Ship him ASAP.
I'm surprised they made such a big deal out of this. It's nothing.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Don't let his form fool you. Most of his goals were opportunistic at best. He will go back to sucking soon. Sell now while he has a glimmer of hype.

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I'm surprised they made such a big deal out of this. It's nothing.
Its nothing to a professional, but Kean up til now has been anything but. Any signs of maturity from him is something, and I say that as someone that thinks hes shit
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I checked. He doesn't have the best goal/minutes ratio. Vlahovic is the best in the last 2 seasons, tho not by much. Kean's record was not great, but he improved it with his 3 goals in the previous 2 matches.

Vlahovic 1 goal in 169 minutes (17 goals in 2889 minutes)
Dybala 1 goal in 174 minutes (15 goals in 2619 minutes)
Milik 1 goal in 174 minutes (6 goals in 1048 minutes)
Kean 1 goal in 179 minutes (11 goals in 1969 minutes)
Morata 1 goal in 267 minutes (12 goals in 3205 minutes)
In many cases he comes as substitute when the players are already tired and still performs as shit. Most of his goals have been tap ins and ricochets. No creativity, no assists, no individual brilliance. Just waiting in the penalty area for easy chances. Fuck this guy.

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Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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In many cases he comes as substitute when the players are already tired and still performs as shit. Most of his goals have been tap ins and ricochets. No creativity, no assists, no individual brilliance. Just waiting in the penalty area for easy chances. Fuck this guy.

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I don't particularly rate Kean but I don't have a problem with strikers who score tap ins and ricochets. It isn't fluke that they score these types of goals, they get in good positions and you need guys to take chances. Inzaghi made a career out of it.
 

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