Moise Kean (53 Viewers)

[s4tch]

He's 21. Not 17, not 19. 21.

that's still very young for a professional footballer. just look up where drogba was playing at the same age. just give him a couple of years. he's homegrown, so it's not like he's taking anyone's place away anyway.

 

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[Gigiventus]

Listen to yourself "he isnt playing well, but he has 2 goals".
You are well aware that Kean missed the header and his skull unconsciously deflected the ball a tiny bit, earning him on paper that 1 goal that you use to claim that he is good?

Its too early to judge him obviously, but I think we can still be realistic and say that we need to see better from him, if it should make sense to buy him. So far he has been quite disappointing.

Yes, it was a deflection that made him score, and yes, it's still something good from him. Strikers have to be at the right place at the right time, off the ball movement is a skill that Kean has. He finds himself in enough of these situations.

He has a lot to improve, but again, he is 21 and has 2 goals already in limited minutes. I'm not a big Kean fan, but the takes here seem overboard. He is still younger and less experienced than basically all of our team.

 

[singus]

Yes, it was a deflection that made him score, and yes, it's still something good from him. Strikers have to be at the right place at the right time, off the ball movement is a skill that Kean has. He finds himself in enough of these situations.

He has a lot to improve, but again, he is 21 and has 2 goals already in limited minutes. I'm not a big Kean fan, but the takes here seem overboard. He is still younger and less experienced than basically all of our team.

I wouldnt really call that a particular skill of his, that earned that goal. But doesnt matter also. I was a fan of his when he was here first time and was disappointed to see him let go. I was also disappointed in seeing him being one of our only acquisitions as I dont see him as a star player (obviously not), but someone decent who could evolve. The problem is that we need a star that has impact, not someone who unconsciously can put his head in fortunate positions. For his fee, we could get more consistent and high quality outlets, like Dzeko, Zapata, Muriel (just to mention some).
For Kean to turn out as a star player and future starter for us, there is quite a way to go, and so far this season I havnt seen anything indicating that he will. But there is time!

 

[Strickland]

I really dislike his celebration, worse than McKennies

 

[The Quazis]

I wonder if tuzzers have similar expectations towards themselves (with all the proportion) in their lives that they have towards these young footballers.

The bias shows when some are delighted with Fagioli performance in freaking Cremonense who's just one year younger than Kean but don't have high hopes for the latter who has already achieved much, much more, is currently an important element of the Juventus squad and has just scored the only goal that gave us a victory against Roma.

 

[DanielSz]

As IlCapitano rightfully said, he has like 50 games of playing time in total on a professional level.

He has 115 first tier appearances. He’s young, not inexperienced. It’s just an excuse.

 

[Allegri_is_God]

As IlCapitano rightfully said, he has like 50 games of playing time in total on a professional level. That isn’t much, especially for a guy who seems to be around for quite some time now.

And who's fault is that? Mine?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

so this is the new "lets hate and talk shit for no reason thread?"

That'd be the Dybala thread.

 

[IlCapitano]

He has 115 first tier appearances. He’s young, not inexperienced. It’s just an excuse.

Yeah, we're not in the 90s anymore to count 15 minute cameos as full appearances. He has around 50-60 minutes worth of games at this level and 30-40 goals, can't be bothered to go back and look at it again.

And it's not an excuse, it's a factual statement. How anyone chooses to interpret that is their own right.

And who's fault is that? Mine?

Nobody develops at the same pace, it is nobody's "fault".

 

[Allegri_is_God]

WTF??? Of course, this is a characteristic of the individual, so it is directly his fault.

 

[IlCapitano]

WTF??? Of course, this is a characteristic of the individual, so it is directly his fault.

It is directly his fault that he did not play more as a teenager in teams with Ronaldo, Mandžukić, Dybala, Mbappe, Neymar, Icardi etc in the attacking department? Sure

 

[DAiDEViL]

That'd be the Dybala thread.

For no reason he said

 

[Allegri_is_God]

It is directly his fault that he did not play more as a teenager in teams with Ronaldo, Mandžukić, Dybala, Mbappe, Neymar, Icardi etc in the attacking department? Sure

Or he's fault is, that he fails to learn from the players you mention

 

[IlCapitano]

Or he's fault is, that he fails to learn from the players you mention

Considering he's getting more and more playing time and scored 17 goals last season I'd say that is factually incorrect.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Considering he's getting more and more playing time and scored 17 goals last season I'd say that is factually incorrect.

Pointless discussion. He’s basically saying to every young player with stiff competition ahead of them that is their fault they don’t play more, even though you can’t expect the same of a 18 y/o compared to a prime player nor can you blame the managers in most cases that they prefer a superior player instead of teenagers.

I really don’t understand his point.

 

[Allegri_is_God]

Pointless discussion. He’s basically saying to every young player with stiff competition ahead of them that is their fault they don’t play more, even though you can’t expect the same of a 18 y/o compared to a prime player nor can you blame the managers in most cases that they prefer a superior player instead of teenagers.

I really don’t understand his point.

Thats not at all what I was saying. But you explain it in last sentence, so it doesnt surprise me

 

[Mike-e-y]

He's 21. Not 17, not 19. 21.

Oh yes he’s 21 and hasn’t won a Ballin D’or. A pensioner, deadwood. Obviously he is past it. Strikers that don’t hit their peak and become masters of football by the age of 21 need to be thrown on the scrap heap

 

[DAiDEViL]

He's 21. Not 17, not 19. 21.

And for a 21 year old he already achieved a lot.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I wonder if tuzzers have similar expectations towards themselves (with all the proportion) in their lives that they have towards these young footballers.

The bias shows when some are delighted with Fagioli performance in freaking Cremonense who's just one year younger than Kean but don't have high hopes for the latter who has already achieved much, much more, is currently an important element of the Juventus squad and has just scored the only goal that gave us a victory against Roma.

So many people here deserving one of these

 

[LiquidPLP]

I'd say calma, just try to remember what a snowflake Morata was when he arrived here.

I'm totally fine with Kean, he's still young and has plenty of room for improvement. Max will get more out of him and meanwhile he can score some nice and important goals for us. He's A very useful and homegrown player, easily good enough for rotation.