Moggi appreciation thread! (9 Viewers)

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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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Amen to that!

I look at this differently now after reading bianconero's posts (Moggi quotes), but still that doesn't make Moggi innocent at all, yes maybe he wanted to defend Juventus with that way, but you did it the wrong way Moggi, you fucked up! you should let these to Agnelli family from the beginning (At Giovanni and Gianni's time), you could end the corruption in other way, but you didn't do that you played it with their rules, and you aren't any different than them. So No to Moggi and the likes, i want them all gone! let's not play with their rules, let's refuse it and find ways to bring them down. We are in 21st century, nothing can't be solved by courts. If you see something, then shout it out loud!
You are not a true Juventino.
 

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Dukoski

Moggi's Admirer and Fan
May 1, 2006
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Something you don't seem to understand is that being a winner while cheating isn't really being a winner . If moggi was clean , he wouldn't be a loser .
He isn't clean , he's corrupt . He made juventus go through its darkest of times and stripped them of two scudetti . Now he's out of the sports world and is hated by millions around the world . People see him as a disgusting symbol of corruption .

But you're right , he's a true winner .
Having a different opinion about various issues does not means that I do not understand the situation about Moggi.
And that,millions of people around the world hate Moggi is just your opinion based on nothing.
How you know that he is not clen.You know him personally?Or you make a opinion from the media histeria.
Once again,how do you explain that we beat Inter every single match with them,in Turin and in Milan.That was also because Moggi was cheating.
And that we were all season at least 10 points in front of everyone behind us.That was because he was cheating?And buying players for peanut money and selling them for fortune was because he mas corrupted also.
Do not have short remembering!!!!
 

rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
Having a different opinion about various issues does not means that I do not understand the situation about Moggi.
And that,millions of people around the world hate Moggi is just your opinion based on nothing.
How you know that he is not clen.You know him personally?Or you make a opinion from the media histeria.
Once again,how do you explain that we beat Inter every single match with them,in Turin and in Milan.That was also because Moggi was cheating.
And that we were all season at least 10 points in front of everyone behind us.That was because he was cheating?And buying players for peanut money and selling them for fortune was because he mas corrupted also.
Do not have short remembering!!!!
no i don't have short remembering .
How do I know he is not clean ? Wiretaps , evidence , witnesses , his own confession . enough ? I don't have to know someone personally to judge him . I don't know hitler , but looking at history and what he has done . I think I can judge him .

Yes we beat inter and many other teams beautifully but there were undoubtedly dubious decisions from the referees for our favour . If you can't see that then you must have been blind .

He bought transfers for peanuts , if that's what you mean . Yes , that's because he had many connections all over Europe . That;s the only thing he can take credit for .

How do I know millions hate him ? is that a trick question ?
 

Dukoski

Moggi's Admirer and Fan
May 1, 2006
392
no i don't have short remembering .
How do I know he is not clean ? Wiretaps , evidence , witnesses , his own confession . enough ? I don't have to know someone personally to judge him . I don't know hitler , but looking at history and what he has done . I think I can judge him .

Yes we beat inter and many other teams beautifully but there were undoubtedly dubious decisions from the referees for our favour . If you can't see that then you must have been blind .

He bought transfers for peanuts , if that's what you mean . Yes , that's because he had many connections all over Europe . That;s the only thing he can take credit for .

How do I know millions hate him ? is that a trick question ?
Just forget it.
I am blind and you see facts from a crystal ball.
Have your own mind and wait for a bright future of our beloved Juve with idiots like Blanc former Roland Garros tennis tournament manager,Giggli former middle rated Fiat office rat and Secco former shoe polisher of every Juve coach.
I think that you will became very,very old in that waiting.
 

rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
Just forget it.
I am blind and you see facts from a crystal ball.
Have your own mind and wait for a bright future of our beloved Juve with idiots like Blanc former Roland Garros tennis tournament manager,Giggli former middle rated Fiat office rat and Secco former shoe polisher of every Juve coach.
I think that you will became very,very old in that waiting.
I never said I was a fan of our new management .. But i would definetely prefer a few honest guys trying hard to restore juventus to its rightful place than for some corrupt prick to cheat for us to win .

I don't see facts from a crystal ball . I see what everyone else sees . It's just the interpretation that's different . I see a corrupt moggi influence that was damaging to our club and brought nothing but trouble while you see an angel who should be protected and isn't at fault despite the evidence and facts .

The past is the past , moggi is gone , and this is a new page and hopefully a good page in Juventus history . You seem to want our new directors to fail miserably as do many others in this forum . Obviously , it's clear that there is a hige difference between a Moggi fan and a Juventus fan . If you are a juve fan , you would back this management despite its many flaws .
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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I never said I was a fan of our new management .. But i would definetely prefer a few honest guys trying hard to restore juventus to its rightful place than for some corrupt prick to cheat for us to win .

I don't see facts from a crystal ball . I see what everyone else sees . It's just the interpretation that's different . I see a corrupt moggi influence that was damaging to our club and brought nothing but trouble while you see an angel who should be protected and isn't at fault despite the evidence and facts .

The past is the past , moggi is gone , and this is a new page and hopefully a good page in Juventus history . You seem to want our new directors to fail miserably as do many others in this forum . Obviously , it's clear that there is a huge difference between a Moggi fan and a Juventus fan . If you are a juve fan , you would back this management despite its many flaws .
Well said, :tup:
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Once again,how do you explain that we beat Inter every single match with them,in Turin and in Milan.That was also because Moggi was cheating.
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Do not have short remembering!!!!
Uhhhh, not to dis you here, but are you sure you know what you're talking about?

I mean, let's take Juventus vs. Inter in the 2004-2005 season -- the season that Juve was most directly accused with supposed evidence of match-fixing and that resulted in the first Scudetto Juve won being surrendered -- and the team sentenced to 20th place and relegation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A_2004-05

Now let's remember those two matches Juve played Inter.

One, at Inter. Juve go up 2-0 and practically beat the pants off of Inter on the pitch. Then, by some bizarre freak of luck, Inter end up tying it up 2-2 in the second half -- with a couple of goals in succession where, after Adriano gets the equalizer, the announcer keeps chanting "incredibile!". This is one of the matches I am still most upset about in recent years for Juve outcomes. Obviously, Moggi and crew must have bribed the officials in that match to ensure a Juve who played superior football to Inter in that match surrender a 2-0 lead?

And then at home against Inter, Juve lost 0-1 to a side that they looked as good as or better than when Cruz came up with a header to bag all three points. Obviously Moggi didn't shell out enough money here either.
[video=dailymotion;x2qhqv]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qhqv_2005-juve-01-inter-cruz-by-miroclub_extreme[/video]

Not to mention the following SuperCoppa a few months later where Juve lost 1-0 to Inter at home in extra time after Trez had a goal disallowed for being offside.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200508/21/eng20050821_203744.html

All I ask is if that you're going to make audacious claims like the above, be prepared to back it up with facts. Because what you just stated is ludicrous given the evidence.
 
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