Miloš Krasić - AM R - CSKA Moscow (32 Viewers)

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AV-7

Junior Member
Jul 8, 2009
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With all due respect, you make very little sense. Actually, no sense at all.

In your previous post you said that he belongs to Tottenham and similar clubs, just like some other Balkan players.
My complain was about comparing him to other Balkan players, who never actually played in serie A, just because he's Balkan.
Where do you see the similarity between Berbatov and Krasic?

I could understand you if you have doubts that he'll succeed in a big serie A team , but you made it sound as if you are 100% sure that he won't and he belongs to mid-table teams.
Now my question to you is: How do YOU know that he won't succeed in Juve? Juve's history is full of players who came from different leagues and succeeded, no matter their nationality.

Second, shall we only sign world cup players? Even if Krasic or the other ex-Yu players who played in serie A, weren't world class players (some of them were, though) who says that all 11 players in the team have to be world class?

Here's an interesting info for you:
-With the exception of 2007 and 2008 CL final, every CL final from 1990 until 2010 had at least one player from the ex-YU countries.

From Jugovic who played for Juve and Red Star, Savicevic who played for Red Star and Milan, Boban in Milan, Suker and Mijatovic in Real Madrid, Salihamidzic in Bayern, Katanec in Sampdoria, Boksic and Stojkovic in Marseille, Pancev, Pandev, Mihajlovic, Prosinecki, Stankovic, Prso, Olic, Tudor, Zivkovic, Babic, Vranjes, Najdoski, Djukic, Zahovic, Sabanadzovic, Binic and lot more.

Some of them were stars of the team, some were important players in the starting XI, some were squad players.....but they were all good enough to play for a CL finalist.
So how are we better than those teams so we shouldn't sign someone from Serbia just because Kezman, Lazovic and Zigic didn't succeed?

Start making sense, please.
Nationality is the last thing we should look at when we're signing players. Every country has players who succeeded and players who choked. If Vidic came from the Russian league to a top league doesn't mean that every Serbian who comes from a Russian team will succeed in a top league. And if Mirkovic didn't succeed in Juventus doesn't mean that every Serbian player will fail in Juventus.

Actually on of the reasons behind the downfall of Serie A is the lack of Balkan players.
 

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Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
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About everyone who has something to say about Krasic, mentions it's basically a done deal.

But you know.. let's not get our hopes up.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
I haven't seen many articles linking us to Krasic to be honest. Most of the time I read about him joining an EPL club. Even Tuttosport doesn't talk about it that much.

PE-PE :sergio:
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
With all due respect, you make very little sense. Actually, no sense at all.

In your previous post you said that he belongs to Tottenham and similar clubs, just like some other Balkan players.
My complain was about comparing him to other Balkan players, who never actually played in serie A, just because he's Balkan.
Where do you see the similarity between Berbatov and Krasic?

I could understand you if you have doubts that he'll succeed in a big serie A team , but you made it sound as if you are 100% sure that he won't and he belongs to mid-table teams.
Now my question to you is: How do YOU know that he won't succeed in Juve? Juve's history is full of players who came from different leagues and succeeded, no matter their nationality.

Second, shall we only sign world cup players? Even if Krasic or the other ex-Yu players who played in serie A, weren't world class players (some of them were, though) who says that all 11 players in the team have to be world class?

Here's an interesting info for you:
-With the exception of 2007 and 2008 CL final, every CL final from 1990 until 2010 had at least one player from the ex-YU countries.

From Jugovic who played for Juve and Red Star, Savicevic who played for Red Star and Milan, Boban in Milan, Suker and Mijatovic in Real Madrid, Salihamidzic in Bayern, Katanec in Sampdoria, Boksic and Stojkovic in Marseille, Pancev, Pandev, Mihajlovic, Prosinecki, Stankovic, Prso, Olic, Tudor, Zivkovic, Babic, Vranjes, Najdoski, Djukic, Zahovic, Sabanadzovic, Binic and lot more.

Some of them were stars of the team, some were important players in the starting XI, some were squad players.....but they were all good enough to play for a CL finalist.
So how are we better than those teams so we shouldn't sign someone from Serbia just because Kezman, Lazovic and Zigic didn't succeed?

Start making sense, please.
Nationality is the last thing we should look at when we're signing players. Every country has players who succeeded and players who choked. If Vidic came from the Russian league to a top league doesn't mean that every Serbian who comes from a Russian team will succeed in a top league. And if Mirkovic didn't succeed in Juventus doesn't mean that every Serbian player will fail in Juventus.[/QUOTE]


1st: PLESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Im not a racist.PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
when i say serbian player i mean the serbian school of football(and i written it u may hv nt noticed it) not nationality PLEASE PPL UNDERSTAND IT.

I meant the serbian football menatlity.
It is like when it is said Brazilian player 1st thing comes to ur mind is skills n dribbling,and when italian u will directley think of defence n toughness,and when nigerian then it is about the speed of light.

so i meant that serbian r good in defence and because thier school is more defensive.

Im not against serbian,if u noticed in other thread im one of the very few ppl here who is behind the arraival of Subotic.Because Serbian defenders unlike serbian attackers or midfielders are compatible with serie a.

2nd:
u asked hw can i be sure that he wont succeed.

my friend no one is sure of the future.WE ALL AGREE.

But there is something called confidence,when a coach want to buy a player he won't go to the board and tell them "PLEASE BUY THAT PLAYER FOR ME BUT IM NT SURE THAT HE WILL SUCCEED IT DEPENDS ON FATE".

Everyone has vision and he applies that vision to the field

I also had an idea n i said it to u,it may be right it may be wrong.This forum is opened to share the ideas.

And it is true that he may succeed but i think u share me the idea that it is difficult for him to adapt in Serie A so WHY TO RISK AND LET US TRY.

3rd:
the main reason for me that i dont want him to come is that we have enough wingers and we already tried them,Most noticably is SEBA who can play on both side.

FINALLY,Sorry to any Serbian here if he thought that im against Serbia.
IM NOT IM NOT IM NOT nad VIVA SERBIA.
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkzjef69Z9g

He didn't played rematch in Moscow against Inter, but I'm pretty sure you're not aware of that. He played very good in Milan. Oh, maybe you'll say - "Well, yeah, he maybe played well but he didn't score the goal". What about Messi? He's by far the best player on planet and he was absolutely impotent against them.

Let me tell you one more thing. Vidic is probably the best defender in the world right now. Do you have any idea where he played before Manchester? Let me tell you, so you can stop google it - Spartak Moscow. Is russian league really that bad? Come on, I can't believe you're serious.

Krasic is still young, he proved his worth in Russia, in Europe and in Serbia, both "A" squad.

And, come on, you can't compare Lazovic with him, Krasic is 100x better player now, was before and will be in the future. Love the bit when you mentioning players like Zigic, etc. Amazing.
Ma dear,He has scored against Man U but u cant say that scoring one goal vs a big time is s success,because every say there are players from small team score against big team BUT we hv to speak about the overall performance n result.

Remember Shevchenko in 98CL when he led D.kiev to lead the group of death and in 99 when he led them to a historical semi final.

Can Krasic do the same?

:disagree: :disagree: :disagree:
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Ma dear,He has scored against Man U but u cant say that scoring one goal vs a big time is s success,because every say there are players from small team score against big team BUT we hv to speak about the overall performance n result.

Remember Shevchenko in 98CL when he led D.kiev to lead the group of death and in 99 when he led them to a historical semi final.

Can Krasic do the same?

:disagree: :disagree: :disagree:
This guy is head for big things on Juventuz :tup:
 

Gagi

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2007
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Ma dear,He has scored against Man U but u cant say that scoring one goal vs a big time is s success,because every say there are players from small team score against big team BUT we hv to speak about the overall performance n result.

Remember Shevchenko in 98CL when he led D.kiev to lead the group of death and in 99 when he led them to a historical semi final.

Can Krasic do the same?

:disagree: :disagree: :disagree:
Oh, sorry, i thougt that goal counts in football. My bad.

First of all, you said "But what did he do infront of Man U and Inter", then i gaved you the argument, the clip where you saw what he can do. After that, SAF went crazy for him, like half of Europe actually, but Nani's form and financial mess distracts them from making an official offer.

Tell me one thing. How many CSKA or Serbia games have you seen?

Discussion is pointless if you did not watched him or you dont have any argument.
 

Delle Alpi

Chemical Dean
May 26, 2009
8,679
I love players from Balkan thy are passionate and very smart and pyhsically strong.
Alen mentioned Jugovic, this guy was my fav along with Del piero. He would put all of out current midfielders to shame. Sad he didn't play for a long time with us
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
Oh, sorry, i thougt that goal counts in football. My bad.

First of all, you said "But what did he do infront of Man U and Inter", then i gaved you the argument, the clip where you saw what he can do. After that, SAF went crazy for him, like half of Europe actually, but Nani's form and financial mess distracts them from making an official offer.

Tell me one thing. How many CSKA or Serbia games have you seen?

Discussion is pointless if you did not watched him or you dont have any argument.
I have seen all CSKA matches against MAN U AND INTER.

And please dont tell me that is nt enough because from big matches u can judge a player.I DONT HAV TO WATCH HIM PLAYING FOR CSKA AGAINST A MINOR LIKE RUSTOV.
 
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