but remember that we're facing Milan at the San Siro , so we must keep our ambitions at the normal level !!
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I am not sure what that means but if its negative then tough duda.
You really think i am one of those who talks negative when we lose and positive when we win with a lot of outside help?
I have so many rubbish in this forum about how superb seriea is and how crap epl is
The fact that Liverpool who could win Cl and come 5th or 6th in England , does it now mean the Epl is the strongest? Of cos it does not. Its just the way it has gone this season but going by your criteria and some others, winning the Cl is the basis of how strong your league is.
How this Juventus team is fighting for SerieA is beyond me, we are not exciting, there is no cordination and at no time have we played good football.
I have no respect for teams that go out without a whimper in Europe then on a weekend go and thrash smaller teams in the league like we did against Lecce, scoring 5, when we could not creat 1 songle golden chance against Liverpool and like Arsenal who do it year in year out.
It don't matter to me if the truth is bitter to u guys, but its the way it is
Capello , the greatest manager, what a laugh
You really think i am one of those who talks negative when we lose and positive when we win with a lot of outside help?
I have so many rubbish in this forum about how superb seriea is and how crap epl is
The fact that Liverpool who could win Cl and come 5th or 6th in England , does it now mean the Epl is the strongest? Of cos it does not. Its just the way it has gone this season but going by your criteria and some others, winning the Cl is the basis of how strong your league is.
How this Juventus team is fighting for SerieA is beyond me, we are not exciting, there is no cordination and at no time have we played good football.
I have no respect for teams that go out without a whimper in Europe then on a weekend go and thrash smaller teams in the league like we did against Lecce, scoring 5, when we could not creat 1 songle golden chance against Liverpool and like Arsenal who do it year in year out.
It don't matter to me if the truth is bitter to u guys, but its the way it is
Capello , the greatest manager, what a laugh
I still fail to see in this whole incoherent rant why Serie A is rubbish even though Milan are going to reach the final of the CL and are level on points with Juventus. It also doesn't make any sense to call losing to teams like Siena rubbish for calcio yet if I remember correctly you used the same argument to back up your claims about the EPL. And why is a league "pants" when there is no single outstanding team? Would you like Abramovich to come buy out some club in Italy and win the title by 15 points? Is that what you call "not pants" denco? I'm not seeing any sense here.
And if you're refering to me when you talk about people saying the EPL is garbage leave me out because I've stated several times all three leagues are in the same class.
What's your point denco? Newcastle and Man City have good players and should be challenging for Europe, yet they have been miserable this season in the EPL. Inter have been the best team in Serie A for months now but cannot beat Milan. If they drew anybody BUT Milan in the Quarterfinals of the CL who knows what could've happened? Inter have just been extremely unlucky.
LOL I'm not sure what you're talking about. Please leave this nonsensical matter at the door.
Perhaps I just give players a bit more time to show their worth? In the match against Atalanta I thought Olivera was our best midfielder and showed some talent. Then in the matches following he started to fall off. Oh well perhaps if we gave Henry more of chance instead of throwing him away like you would have done he might have shown his worth too. You gotta give players more of a chance to show what they can do, and one season coming in as sub is hardly enough. Lampard didn't look all that great before and now he's perhaps Nedved's successor as the best goalscoring midfielder in the world.
Yes they have been the best club in Serie A since Christmas.
I concur there. The freebie policy Moggi has is indeed rubbish, and we will never win the CL if we don't fill the positions with the correct players. Kovac is old and was owned against Chelsea, and if he is our backup next season our defense won't get any better. Rumor has it we will get Santos Mozart, a decent player who will add some passing range and creativity to the team but I doubt he will take us to the CL final. We can complete in a long run competition like Serie A but were faulter in Europe because we can't turn up the heat in the short run.
And if you're refering to me when you talk about people saying the EPL is garbage leave me out because I've stated several times all three leagues are in the same class.
What's your point denco? Newcastle and Man City have good players and should be challenging for Europe, yet they have been miserable this season in the EPL. Inter have been the best team in Serie A for months now but cannot beat Milan. If they drew anybody BUT Milan in the Quarterfinals of the CL who knows what could've happened? Inter have just been extremely unlucky.
LOL I'm not sure what you're talking about. Please leave this nonsensical matter at the door.
Perhaps I just give players a bit more time to show their worth? In the match against Atalanta I thought Olivera was our best midfielder and showed some talent. Then in the matches following he started to fall off. Oh well perhaps if we gave Henry more of chance instead of throwing him away like you would have done he might have shown his worth too. You gotta give players more of a chance to show what they can do, and one season coming in as sub is hardly enough. Lampard didn't look all that great before and now he's perhaps Nedved's successor as the best goalscoring midfielder in the world.
Yes they have been the best club in Serie A since Christmas.
I concur there. The freebie policy Moggi has is indeed rubbish, and we will never win the CL if we don't fill the positions with the correct players. Kovac is old and was owned against Chelsea, and if he is our backup next season our defense won't get any better. Rumor has it we will get Santos Mozart, a decent player who will add some passing range and creativity to the team but I doubt he will take us to the CL final. We can complete in a long run competition like Serie A but were faulter in Europe because we can't turn up the heat in the short run.
Oh my goodness Abramovich but the title? What absolute bollocks, how can you profess to know anything about football and say you can indeed by a league?
You cannot okay, yes you can spend , spend and spend but unless you buy the right players then it aint gonna happen.
Yes Abramovitch has spent but how many of them players were not grossly overpriced?
In what world is Ferreria a £12M defender? Where is Glen Johnson worth 7m, how is Drogba worth £24m
The fact of the matter is if it was anyother club that came for this players , they won't be worth as much but because it was Chelsea they have been overpriced
man united spent money on Rooney, Saha, Smith, Rio, Klerberson, Forlan, Ruud etc, Arsenal did the same with their players
Did you say Newcastle and man city have the players to be in Europe? Can you please quote these players names for me?
You think SerieA is known for its honesty
I mean even journalists in Italy will tell you that if Juve and Milan are going for the title and SerieA, they usually have a kind of gentleman's agreement to forego one for the other.
Of all the games played in SerieA this season pleae tell me one that really stands out between the so called big teams
Milan and Juve have led the way thruout, but have they been truly outstanding this season?
Milan are quite fortunate to have an all time great striker in Sheva cos most of their players have underachieved this season even if to be fair they are getting on a bit and it was always gonna be difficult for Kaka to reproduce his last season's form
You cannot okay, yes you can spend , spend and spend but unless you buy the right players then it aint gonna happen.
Yes Abramovitch has spent but how many of them players were not grossly overpriced?
In what world is Ferreria a £12M defender? Where is Glen Johnson worth 7m, how is Drogba worth £24m
The fact of the matter is if it was anyother club that came for this players , they won't be worth as much but because it was Chelsea they have been overpriced
man united spent money on Rooney, Saha, Smith, Rio, Klerberson, Forlan, Ruud etc, Arsenal did the same with their players
Did you say Newcastle and man city have the players to be in Europe? Can you please quote these players names for me?
You think SerieA is known for its honesty
I mean even journalists in Italy will tell you that if Juve and Milan are going for the title and SerieA, they usually have a kind of gentleman's agreement to forego one for the other.
Of all the games played in SerieA this season pleae tell me one that really stands out between the so called big teams
Milan and Juve have led the way thruout, but have they been truly outstanding this season?
Milan are quite fortunate to have an all time great striker in Sheva cos most of their players have underachieved this season even if to be fair they are getting on a bit and it was always gonna be difficult for Kaka to reproduce his last season's form
Denco, can you read? Where did I say Chelsea bought the title? Of course they needed Abramovich's money to buy the players and coaches to perhaps win the title, however you still have to play 30 some games to secure it.
About this Newcastle and Man City post I made it to counter what you said about clubs like Fiorentina and Parma disappointing this year. Both of those English clubs have not done too well but they both should be in the hunt for the UEFA cup spots. I just didn't understand why you were using those examples to say Serie A is "pants" when the same thing is happening in England.
Of course Serie A is not entirely honest, nobody is, however if your going to say that both Milan and Juve supposedly cheat in some sort of "gentleman's agreement" it's almost like saying Chelsea bought the title because you still have to play for the games. Milan wasn't given those goals in the fourth minute of stoppage time, they had to score 'em themselves.
As for the big club matches the game at San Siro between us and Inter was good, and both Madoninna derbies were good. The big matches in England weren't that much better because of Mourinho's tactics with Chelsea.
About this Newcastle and Man City post I made it to counter what you said about clubs like Fiorentina and Parma disappointing this year. Both of those English clubs have not done too well but they both should be in the hunt for the UEFA cup spots. I just didn't understand why you were using those examples to say Serie A is "pants" when the same thing is happening in England.
Of course Serie A is not entirely honest, nobody is, however if your going to say that both Milan and Juve supposedly cheat in some sort of "gentleman's agreement" it's almost like saying Chelsea bought the title because you still have to play for the games. Milan wasn't given those goals in the fourth minute of stoppage time, they had to score 'em themselves.
As for the big club matches the game at San Siro between us and Inter was good, and both Madoninna derbies were good. The big matches in England weren't that much better because of Mourinho's tactics with Chelsea.
