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JBF

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What about Ronaldo's FK, Messi can't score from the same distance and he cant even score that much FK either.

As for the attitude, well that's what makes him as good as he is. He thinks he's the Greatest and he works to be, its not like he just says so.
 

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only-juve

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What about Ronaldo's FK, Messi can't score from the same distance and he cant even score that much FK either.

As for the attitude, well that's what makes him as good as he is. He thinks he's the Greatest and he works to be, its not like he just says so.
Being better at FK's doesn't make you the better player. Ronaldo (the brazilian) IMO was a bigger talent than both messi and c.ronaldo yet the guy had barely ever scored from freekicks (probably just 2-3 goals in all of he's career).

Messi IMO the more creative player, tricky guy and he can really function in those tight area's (where cristiano can't do much in).

I think it goes like this: Messi is more naturally talented than Cristiano. C.ronaldo worked alot on himself to reach the level that he is at right now. Messi is really gifted, since day 1 he played for barca at just 18.

saying all that i still like to watch cristiano more than messi. C.ronaldo is the entertainer, he's the one who gives you the show but Messi if not for he's talent he'd be Anonymous (he lack the Character and personality that distinct great players IMO)....
 

JBF

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Being better at FK's doesn't make you the better player. Ronaldo (the brazilian) IMO was a bigger talent than both messi and c.ronaldo yet the guy had barely ever scored from freekicks (probably just 2-3 goals in all of he's career).

Messi IMO the more creative player, tricky guy and he can really function in those tight area's (where cristiano can't do much in).

I think it goes like this: Messi is more naturally talented than Cristiano. C.ronaldo worked alot on himself to reach the level that he is at right now. Messi is really gifted, since day 1 he played for barca at just 18.

saying all that i still like to watch cristiano more than messi. C.ronaldo is the entertainer, he's the one who gives you the show but Messi if not for he's talent he'd be Anonymous (he lack the Character and personality that distinct great players IMO)....
Hell yea it does! Being better in FKs makes you a better player than those who cant even cross one, thats football 101. And that's why Alex is IMO a far better player than Ronaldo (Brazil) will ever dream to be (Even Ronaldo wished he had Alex's talent).

While i agree on the last paragraph.
 
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Okay.

And that's why Alex is IMO a far better player than Ronaldo (Brazil) will ever dream to be (Even Ronaldo wished he had Alex's talent).
No offense, but this is one of the most ridiculous opinions I've come across on here. Del Piero and Ronaldo are completely different types of strikers, and being able to hit a free kick doesn't make one "far better" than probably the best striker of the last 15 years.
 

JBF

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I didn't say that Alex's FKs is what makes him better than Ronaldo, but its one of many attributes.

Anyway, I dont expect you to agree here. Im just saying that FK's perfection, makes a player better than other and that IMO, Alex is better than Ronaldo (Brazil).
 

only-juve

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Hell yea it does! Being better in FKs makes you a better player than those who cant even cross one, thats football 101. And that's why Alex is IMO a far better player than Ronaldo (Brazil) will ever dream to be (Even Ronaldo wished he had Alex's talent).

While i agree on the last paragraph.
Who said Messi can't cross the ball ?! Plus he's freekicks isn't bad at all but he rarely take them. As for del piero and Ronaldo's comparison even though they're different players but i rate ronaldo higher than del piero and i know many here will disagree (after all this is a juve forum).

No offense, but this is one of the most ridiculous opinions I've come across on here. Del Piero and Ronaldo are completely different types of strikers, and being able to hit a free kick doesn't make one "far better" than probably the best striker of the last 15 years.
:agree: Ronaldo (Brazilian) is incredible, i still remember he's season with Barca and every single time he got the ball he's scored. If anyone has a shot/goals ratio for the guy am pretty sure its close to 100% in that specific season am not exaggerating.
 

JBF

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Who said Messi can't cross the ball ?! Plus he's freekicks isn't bad at all but he rarely take them. As for del piero and Ronaldo's comparison even though they're different players but i rate ronaldo higher than del piero and i know many here will disagree (after all this is a juve forum).
Ronaldo takes FKs better than Messi and that's a plus for him, that's all Im saying.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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C. Ronaldo obviously. Messi is too egoistic and manages to score goals partially because of his talent and the other part is the sublime efforts of Xavi/Iniesta/Ibrahimovic... Put C. Ronaldo with, say West Ham, and he would still be firing on all cylinders...

He is the quickest player in the world (proven by a German test).
wow,that IS priceless:sergio:

and for fucks sake all you lot keep saying taht Messi is not creative but he has creative players in Xavi and Iniesta,i say Giggs,Rooney and Scholes,these were the players taht picked up teh slack when one of Ronaldo's 38 stepovers a game went nowhere and he stood with his hands on his hips,they were also great players themselves and created many many chances

i swear i think half of you are imbeciles and must believe that Ronaldo gets the ball from the keeper at full back,skins the right midfielder,darts past the full back,crosses the ball in and heads it in himself

oh and tha arguement that Ronaldo is a better player than Messi because he can take a free kick,well thats it sorted then,the long debate is over,Roberto Carlos was better than Maldini,these guys proved it
 

JBF

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oh and tha arguement that Ronaldo is a better player than Messi because he can take a free kick,well thats it sorted then,the long debate is over,Roberto Carlos was better than Maldini,these guys proved it
We are debating two forward players, thats why FK were taken into account. But whatever...
 

Bozi

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why? Trezeguet has been a fantastic forward for us but he never takes free-kicks,Inzaghi too,you wont see Torres take a free kick,legends like Bergkamp,Romario,etc weren't free kick takers...do you discount their greatness because of this?

you claimed that Ronaldo could take free kicks,therefore he is better,does that also mean that Beckham was a better player than Nedved who seldom took fee-kicks?
 

JBF

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why? Trezeguet has been a fantastic forward for us but he never takes free-kicks,Inzaghi too,you wont see Torres take a free kick,legends like Bergkamp,Romario,etc weren't free kick takers...do you discount their greatness because of this?

you claimed that Ronaldo could take free kicks,therefore he is better,does that also mean that Beckham was a better player than Nedved who seldom took fee-kicks?
Every player has his own characteristics that makes him special, Trezegoal is a goal sniper he's probably the most lethal striker in the penalty box and that makes him a legend in my books. And the same goes for Inzaghi, he's a legend in the eyes of Milan fans. Torres has that ability to score impossible goals and makes them look so easy, he can also dribble past opponents and also his headers are lethal.

What im trying to say here is that scoring FK gives any player a plus in my book, but that doesn't mean that having this characteristic is what makes him a legend.
 

Bozi

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that funny,because it was the main argument you had for Ronaldo being better than Messi

now i have to say i think that ronaldo is a fabulous player,fast,strong,great shot,etc
but messi has that ability to conjure something out of nothing,in a tight space to dribble between players and the vision to score or set up an opportunity

the main argument round here seems to be that Messi has better players a round him,while i agree that Xavi and Iniesta are fantastic,it is plainly obvious that Ronaldo has been surrounded by top players for the last 5 years also
 

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