[merged] Juve Fans Reaction To Banner (14 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,918
#22
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
Dont misread what I am saying. I am also caught up in the emotion of it all.

We were all at fault. Juventus started it, we finished it.

WE ARE ALL TO BLAME

But i just find it rude how backs were turned. Its just childish.
Again, not all of our supporters did that.

AND once again, it was not during the Heysel remembrance, only the Friendship banner. Can't you just accept that some fans are not ready to be friends?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,918
#23
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS STARTED IT BY THROWING MISSILES AT US!!!!!!!!!

APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS HAD BANNERS THAT READ: REDS ANIMALS (before Heysel happened)
So is that supposed to be an excuse, orrrrrr...?

Yeah Bes, so I suppose that justifies it.
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
#24
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS STARTED IT BY THROWING MISSILES AT US!!!!!!!!!

APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS HAD BANNERS THAT READ: REDS ANIMALS (before Heysel happened)
Calm down, have a sip of coffee/tea/beer or whatever beverage u have.

Ok I know that those lads were rude, but they were ignorant of how the incident exactly happened. I'm sure they wouldn't even there to "experience" the Heysel incident in the 1st place. They were juz told of the story and reacted in such a way. But they were juz a small amount of fans that do it. The rest of us r aware of the incident too, and we wish for a peaceful game between the both sides.

Cheers.
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
#25
I hope no troubles come out of this...but we should take a closer look, may be this small group were fans who had relations to those who died in that tragedy. It must be hard for them to forget especially givin Liverpool fans HAPPY FACEs During the match and After. Must be veery Annoying.
 

Eaglesnake_1

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2004
2,308
#26
++ [ originally posted by Juve_The_Best ] ++


Don't be !

There is something call in america (free speech) so next days a new law will be in europe call (free fingers )

Just kidding :)

btw this pic took after the referee gave his last whistle not during the match or on the begining .. and while Liv's fans inflamed juve fans after the final whistle. juve's fans replied by fingers not to insulte them but to inform them that we need only 1 goal at delle alpi to qualify .. look at the fingers:)


:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

kurvengeflüster

********* a.D.
Jan 24, 2004
2,179
#28
from pressetext.at

summary:

-Liverpool fans bought tickets for Juve-sectors via black'n white's website
-indignations because both group can't be kept apart
-a spokesman of Juve denied the fact that the order procedure at the website is not conformable to UEFA directives
-accordingly the club or the association is responsible for delivering tickets to its own fans (respectively Liverpool)
-solution: British fans' passports will be controlled at the entrance of Delle Alpi. Then they will be redirected into the Liverpool sector.
-problem: Reds' fancurve is already sold out.

:wallbang: nice adjustment :wallbang:
 

Loppan

Senior Member
Jul 13, 2002
2,528
#29
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS STARTED IT BY THROWING MISSILES AT US!!!!!!!!!

APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS HAD BANNERS THAT READ: REDS ANIMALS (before Heysel happened)
Apart from the fact that Pool fans had knifes with them.....


If Juve fans are behaving badly there is no reason why pool fans should do the same? Be the grown-up and just support your own team with songs etc.
 

Erkka

Senior Member
Mar 31, 2004
3,863
#30
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS STARTED IT BY THROWING MISSILES AT US!!!!!!!!!

APART FROM THE FACT JUVENTUS FANS HAD BANNERS THAT READ: REDS ANIMALS (before Heysel happened)
:rolleyes: Yeah, they were being provocative. That justifies it, that justifies the execution of 39 people, that justifies the fact that those drunken morons attacked section where many women and children were...

I'm not going to discuss this matter any further, it's simply useless. I think that Andy captured it perfectly:

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++

Can't you just accept that some fans are not ready to be friends?
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#31
++ [ originally posted by LiverpoolUltras ] ++
Dont misread what I am saying. I am also caught up in the emotion of it all.

We were all at fault. Juventus started it, we finished it.

WE ARE ALL TO BLAME

But i just find it rude how backs were turned. Its just childish.
What did juve start????
If all the fans think like you and liverpool fans, there would be 50 deads after every game, it is normal that fans bluster each other..
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
#32
++ [ originally posted by Loppan ] ++


Apart from the fact that Pool fans had knifes with them.....


If Juve fans are behaving badly there is no reason why pool fans should do the same? Be the grown-up and just support your own team with songs etc.
Agreed
 

djleli

Senior Member
Aug 12, 2004
3,579
#33
The Juventus fans will not forgive
06.04: The real Juventus supporters had announced that they wouldn't make peace with the fans who killed 39 of their own and they maintained their word. When Rush and Platini carried the memory and friendship banner over to the Juventus section, the supporters turned their back, showed their finger and song the Italian anthem. And when The Kop displayed their mosaic with "Amicizia" written over it, the Juventus supporters responded by singing the well known English animals song. Early on the day of the match a friendly was played between the Juventus Club London and the Liverpool fans. The stupid thing is that the majority of those who played for "Juventus" were not even Italians.
The real Juventus supporters are furious at them for playing and I don't think that it is a good idea for them to present themselves in Turin, EVER AGAIN! They are considered to be huge traitors. As the Juventus supporters say: Some of us can forgive, but nobody of us will ever be friends with the fans that killed 39 of our own. The idiotic and hated Juventus directors have planned that La Curva Nord will display the same Mosaic with "Amicizia" for the return game in Turin. La Curva Sud on the other hand is planning a whole other reception for the Liverpool supporters and thay have launched an appeal that nobody in La Curva Nord must contribute in displaying the "Amicizia" mosaic at the Delle Alpi stadium.
 

Philipp00

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2004
1,517
#35
I think what the Liverpool fans did on tuesday was somehow like saying sorry. the fans that have been in the stadium have nothing to do with the murders that caused the tragedy 20 years ago. They can`t be blamed for what happened 20 years ago. I know that it is hard to forgive but more violence and hate is not the solution.
We all should hope that such things never happen again.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#36
++ [ originally posted by djleli ] ++
The Juventus fans will not forgive
06.04: The real Juventus supporters had announced that they wouldn't make peace with the fans who killed 39 of their own and they maintained their word. When Rush and Platini carried the memory and friendship banner over to the Juventus section, the supporters turned their back, showed their finger and song the Italian anthem. And when The Kop displayed their mosaic with "Amicizia" written over it, the Juventus supporters responded by singing the well known English animals song. Early on the day of the match a friendly was played between the Juventus Club London and the Liverpool fans. The stupid thing is that the majority of those who played for "Juventus" were not even Italians.
The real Juventus supporters are furious at them for playing and I don't think that it is a good idea for them to present themselves in Turin, EVER AGAIN! They are considered to be huge traitors. As the Juventus supporters say: Some of us can forgive, but nobody of us will ever be friends with the fans that killed 39 of our own. The idiotic and hated Juventus directors have planned that La Curva Nord will display the same Mosaic with "Amicizia" for the return game in Turin. La Curva Sud on the other hand is planning a whole other reception for the Liverpool supporters and thay have launched an appeal that nobody in La Curva Nord must contribute in displaying the "Amicizia" mosaic at the Delle Alpi stadium.
I just saw a similar articel in german:

Juve-Fans kündigen Rache-Akt an


Im Brüsseler Heysel-Stadion kam es 1985 zu schweren Ausschreitungen
Turin/München - Das Stadion Delle Alpi in Turin wird zum Hochsicherheitstrakt.

20 Jahre nach der Tragödie von Heysel befürchtet die italienische Polizei nach Drohungen im Internet Ausschreitungen beim Champions-League-Viertelfinale zwischen Juventus Turin und dem FC Liverpool.

Nach einem Bericht der "Gazzetta dello Sport" kündigten Turiner "Ultras" auf Internetseiten "Rache für Heysel" an.

"Kein Spiel wie jedes andere"

Die Polizei will mit verstärkten Sicherheitsvorkehrungen beim Rückspiel am kommenden Mittwoch (20.45 Uhr) reagieren.

"Das ist kein Spiel wie jedes andere. Wir werden uns gründlich vorbereiten und wollen auf jede Situation vorbereitet sein", sagte ein Sprecher der Turiner Polizei.

Zudem würde man in ständigem Kontakt mit den Polizei-Behörden in Liverpool stehen.

Heysel-Stadion wurde zur tödlichen Falle

Im Brüsseler Heysel-Stadion war es 1985 vor dem Endspiel im Europapokal der Landesmeister zwischen Turin und Liverpool zu einer Katastrophe gekommen.

Nachdem vornehmlich Liverpooler Fans gewalttätig geworden sind, kamen 39 Zuschauer bei einer Massenpanik ums Leben. 400 weitere Personen wurden schwer verletzt.

Mehrere Tausend Fans aus England erwartet

Das Spiel wurde trotz der Eskalation der Gewalt mit einer Stunde und 27 Minuten Verspätung angepfiffen. Juventus sicherte sich durch einen Elfmeter-Treffer von Michel Platini die Krone des europäischen Klubfußballs.


Das Hinspiel am Dienstag hat Liverpool mit 2:1 für sich entscheiden.

Zum Rückspiel werden allein 4000 Fans aus England erwartet.
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It says that juve fans seek revenge for the tragidy..and there may be 4000 liverpool fans in turin...
I just hope there will be not troubles on that day.. The problem will not be only on dele alpi, english fans are all the time in the city and allways get drunk. This could be really dangrous...
 
May 30, 2004
2,578
#37
i tell you honestly i still feel bitter about the incident as in i disrespect liverpool ultras hooligans.... but not seeking revenge nobody shuld die in a football game,,, i dont think anything bad will happen at turin juve will probably win and go home happily no hard feelings... this was 20 yrs ago half the fans tht were on tht heysel thing are dead by now not 38 italians only .. forget and forgive...
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#38
Oh please.

If it was the other way around, if it had been Pool fans that were killed by Juve fans im pretty sure Pool fans wouldnt be seeking revenge. Its fvcking stupid. I dont understand why fans of Italian football are such idiots. 38 people die, 20 years later hundreds of thousands of Juve fans are annoyed and angry, fans that atleast 95% of werent even effected. What a load of crap.

In the whole scheme of things this is just another example of Italian fans taking football too seriously.
 

Dust

New Member
Apr 6, 2005
34
#39
The vast majority of Liverpool fans know it was only a minority of Juve supporters who behaved that way. Even though I think it was slightly childish to respon like that, it is their right not to forgive if that's how they feel.

++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++


:rolleyes: Yeah, they were being provocative. That justifies it, that justifies the execution of 39 people, that justifies the fact that those drunken morons attacked section where many women and children were...
Come now, execution? I'm not saying those fans actions weren't disgraceful, but they were provoked, and no one was stabbed or "executed", a wall fell down. Like I say, their actions were inexcusable, but I think you'd do well to consider the other factors involved and not have such a slanted view on things :)
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#40
++ [ originally posted by Dust ] ++
The vast majority of Liverpool fans know it was only a minority of Juve supporters who behaved that way. Even though I think it was slightly childish to respon like that, it is their right not to forgive if that's how they feel.
Might not be such a minority in the next game though.
 

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