We're not comparing fan bases from the 40s though are we? The point is that yes for a long time it was Torino who had the overwhelming fan base in the city, but since Juve's growth it's something of a myth I think to say that still holds true today. Support is often passed on by families but it's not a leap to think that kids born in Turin in the last 30 years are not going to gravitate to the most successful domestic club when they are based in your city, especially when the team holds something like 35% of the national club support.
Yes cities like Milan (although Juve has a huge fan base in Milan), Rome, Naples and Florence have more support for their local club(s) but Juve is basically second (or third) in all of those cities and first in many other places, particular in the southern half of Italy.
Yes cities like Milan (although Juve has a huge fan base in Milan), Rome, Naples and Florence have more support for their local club(s) but Juve is basically second (or third) in all of those cities and first in many other places, particular in the southern half of Italy.
Listen you Muppet. I am genuinely hating on shit players, but De Ligt is actually quality.
Am I sad to see him leave? Absolutely not. We got Bremer, and I was never really attached to De Shitz as a player to start with.
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Sure, but it doesn't seem fair tbh. Trophies are team accomplishments. How about individual stats? Tackles, Interceptions, Cards, Overall Rating, Etc...?
Am I sad to see him leave? Absolutely not. We got Bremer, and I was never really attached to De Shitz as a player to start with.
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Sure, but it doesn't seem fair tbh. Trophies are team accomplishments. How about individual stats? Tackles, Interceptions, Cards, Overall Rating, Etc...?
And in the recent timeframe you have been making these ridiculous assertions Juve has signed Chiesa, Vlahovic, Bremer, etc. the latter two aren’t Italian, you dope.
Also, Bremer had Inter as his only alternative, whereas Vlahovic had Arsenal. Of course they were going to choose Juve.
Let’s stop moving goalposts just to fit the narative of some…
The absolute main reason promising young players or other already top players choose other leagues this days is first and foremost because most EPL clubs along with PSG and the top3 sides from Spain tend to offer much more in transfer fees to the selling club and also way more in wages to the players… We however prefer to buy from Serie A because the league is well known for requiring an adaptation period for foreign players and more often than not certain quality players might prefer to stay in Italy even if for less money while for Juve it makes sense because the overall investment and risks are limited by the fact the player is already adapted.
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The management has their fair share of mistakes over the years no doubt but if we want to start some real talk let’s just start from the fact that if it wasn’t for Juventus’s success and model this past decade Serie A would have probably resembled the Dutch league in terms of quality and allure.
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Too much overreacting around here based on the departure of a player who’s stint here over a span of 3years is actually accurately described by a large majority of the fanbase as having not lived up to the expectations and the player being largely overrated for what he’s shown so far. Let’s just move on and not generalize everything because of one or two examples that did not work out.
The absolute main reason promising young players or other already top players choose other leagues this days is first and foremost because most EPL clubs along with PSG and the top3 sides from Spain tend to offer much more in transfer fees to the selling club and also way more in wages to the players… We however prefer to buy from Serie A because the league is well known for requiring an adaptation period for foreign players and more often than not certain quality players might prefer to stay in Italy even if for less money while for Juve it makes sense because the overall investment and risks are limited by the fact the player is already adapted.
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The management has their fair share of mistakes over the years no doubt but if we want to start some real talk let’s just start from the fact that if it wasn’t for Juventus’s success and model this past decade Serie A would have probably resembled the Dutch league in terms of quality and allure.
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Too much overreacting around here based on the departure of a player who’s stint here over a span of 3years is actually accurately described by a large majority of the fanbase as having not lived up to the expectations and the player being largely overrated for what he’s shown so far. Let’s just move on and not generalize everything because of one or two examples that did not work out.
I didn’t pay much attention to Bremer saga before we signed him. But Vlahovic’s ex coach said Madrid, PSG, City were all interested. Commisso said Vlahovic rejected a Madrid offer. And English papers were all reporting he was Guardiola’s first choice and going to City all through January.
You don’t really think only Arsenal and Juve were interested in an emerging young star like Vlahovic, do you? After the two seasons he had?
You don’t really think only Arsenal and Juve were interested in an emerging young star like Vlahovic, do you? After the two seasons he had?
Commisso? You believe what that idiot says? Other reports at the time suggested that Vlahovic was in fact offered by Commisso to Madrid, but they turned down the proposal- a more realistic scenario because:
A. Commisso was going to do anything to make sure Juve didn't get a hand on another one of his talents, and B. it wouldn't make sense for Madrid to go after Vlahovic when they had set their sights on a summer move for Mbappe, at the time. Not to mention they already had a world class forward in Benzema anyway.
As for City, I live in the UK and I can tell you this is the first time I'm hearing this because I didn't see anything in the papers. But regardless, British press is never reliable in the slightest when it comes to transfer news, that's just a well known fact by this point.
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Based on reliable journalism, not 'Daily Mail' rumours.
A. Commisso was going to do anything to make sure Juve didn't get a hand on another one of his talents, and B. it wouldn't make sense for Madrid to go after Vlahovic when they had set their sights on a summer move for Mbappe, at the time. Not to mention they already had a world class forward in Benzema anyway.
As for City, I live in the UK and I can tell you this is the first time I'm hearing this because I didn't see anything in the papers. But regardless, British press is never reliable in the slightest when it comes to transfer news, that's just a well known fact by this point.
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Based on reliable journalism, not 'Daily Mail' rumours.
What reliable journalism? Di Marzio, etc? As if these guys have been any more reliable than anyone else. Google search Guardiola/Man City & Vlahovic and you’ll find dozens of articles from Italian/English/etc news sources about Guardiola wanting Dusan. Given that Man City had failed to get Kane and had no top striker at the time and that PSG had Mbappe refusing to extend and everyone assumed he was going to Real Madrid, it’s not surprising that those two clubs would have been interested in Vlahovic, one of the best young strikers in the game. His national team manager also brought up some of these clubs as being interested and said he told Dusan to stay in Italy and go to Juve.
Anyways, we’re all just speculating here, including you.
Anyways, we’re all just speculating here, including you.
Who cares about what he says. He shouldn’t have come in the first place. He knew we were never going to play tiki taka or total football. In Italy you sit back and don’t take risks. I’m sure he did his research before coming here. If he wanted to be the Nesta or Cannavaro type of player, someone has to tell him that they played and thrived in the same rigid system.
He’s just too salty that Juve didn’t change for him. No player is bigger than the club. He wanted to leave, good fucking fortune. Life goes on.
He’s just too salty that Juve didn’t change for him. No player is bigger than the club. He wanted to leave, good fucking fortune. Life goes on.