Matías Soulé (25 Viewers)

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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any offer regardless should include a buyback clause with a 25-35m markup for 2 seasons.

similar to morata from madrid to juve.

so if sold for 35m for example, juve should have a buy back clause for 2 years for 60m for example.
This right here is a man who gets it.

The bait should be a low asking price up front so more prestigious clubs are willing to take him on. The buy back is how you get it back like you mentioned.

Someone get @Lion some Evian
 

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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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Giuntolis MO seems to be a percentage on a future sale
imo in his case a buy back clause makes more sense because you already make profit on his sale now. and this a position that is in demand and juve lacks a good player in anyway.

imagine he goes on to become a 20+ goals+assists player per season for next 2 seasons. his value shoots up to 60m+ now. and thats with no bidding war. this is even more true if he goes to epl.

with a buy back clause you guarantee a easy "cheap" fee with no need to get into a bidding war with clubs that can outspend you,and you get a player that the club needs.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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imo in his case a buy back clause makes more sense because you already make profit on his sale now. and this a position that is in demand and juve lacks a good player in anyway.

imagine he goes on to become a 20+ goals+assists player per season for next 2 seasons. his value shoots up to 60m+ now. and thats with no bidding war. this is even more true if he goes to epl.

with a buy back clause you guarantee a easy "cheap" fee with no need to get into a bidding war with clubs that can outspend you,and you get a player that the club needs.
I don’t think Soule is that guy. He’d be going to a bigger club if he were imo.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
I don’t think Soule is that guy. He’d be going to a bigger club if he were imo.
sure, maybe you are right. but i would like to remind you that mohammed salah didn't become the star he is today until he was 25. de bryne same but at 23. soule is still only 21 without being given a chance at a bigger club to see what he can do with better teamates

as you know not every body fully develops in early teens like messi did. some players take time and it's tempting to pass up a chance to get him back if he becomes a better player.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Does he just not fit Motta's system? Or else why sell this guy for 30m and sign another winger for 25-30m? Is it just for financial shenanigans?

I always rather sell good players abroad so they can't hurt us. You know he'll be desperate to do well against us for Roma, so it seems stupid. Not that I expect he'd turn Roma into a perennial challenger or anything. Shame for us that not one other attractive club really wants him (maybe says a lot).

Also, how would he and Dybala play on the same team?
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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I don’t think Soule is that guy. He’d be going to a bigger club if he were imo.
What's made you change your mind? You've been following the Next Gen and I had you down as somebody who really rated Soule.

I was saying this months ago and everybody jumped on me, what's made you turn to the dark side?
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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I don't know man. I think he has a lot of quality. The problem is the athleticism is below average. He is a bit like Kulu where you see some excellent skill and tricky box play but the general game is very unexplosive for a winger.

I'm very torn though. Some of his dribbling and passing is so good.
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,139
I don't know man. I think he has a lot of quality. The problem is the athleticism is below average. He is a bit like Kulu where you see some excellent skill and tricky box play but the general game is very unexplosive for a winger.

I'm very torn though. Some of his dribbling and passing is so good.
His dribbling and skill is excellent.
We probably need that Outgoings to balance our financial books. We can get good sum on outgoing while spread the cost for incoming player.

And read the article in Wishlist Thread about winger probably has some answer. His dribbling, Offensive Duel has amazing stat including through pass (chances creation) and still young (can develop)

But there also still option in the market with other alternatives that can suit us for now.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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The last winger he bought was Kvara for 10m euro.

Will save some time for Turk, who will eagerly tell you Giuntoli money laundered with Lille by signing Weah for 12m.


Even tho Weah was signed weeks if not a month before Giuntoli officially joined Juve as GM.

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last winger he bought was timothy fucking weah for 13 million. before that he bought likes of asspadorri, politano. and wingers we are linked with are either expensive flops like jadon sancho or random ones like those lille and porto guys.

Alen I wasn't quick enough, sorry for that :p:D
 

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