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Kevster

Junior Member
Feb 9, 2024
366
"The lads had a good game against a phenomenal Atalanta. Yildiz growing his hair out again? He needs to focus more on helping out his defensive midfielders so I made him cut his hair the first time, next time I will start him as left wingback. We should be more composed against these teams. Unfortunately we can't win every game, so let's focus on securing top 4."
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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,029
At the moment results are saying yes, DeRossi is much better coach than your beloved fraud.
In a world where you are as good as your last game. Myopic view.

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Roma are going through 'new manager syndrome.' It will wear off soon and they will flop.
Maybe, maybe not. But incessant praise of absolute nobody in a coaching world after a few games is laughable. You could make a case for the likes of Motta who is having tremendous season and would be my 1st pick should we part ways with Ibn Al-legri.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,930
When you think about the class of 2006 Italy wc team... some awful managers have come from it like cannavaro, Gattuso, Pippo Inzaghi and Nesta, funny to think that De Rossi and probably Grosso have been the best of the lot so far :lol:
Tbh there shouldn't be any direct correlation between great players and great managers, it's two different things.

Some players were not the most technically or athletically blessed but are more cerebral and so they become better managers.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,947
Tbh there shouldn't be any direct correlation between great players and great managers, it's two different things.

Some players were not the most technically or athletically blessed but are more cerebral and so they become better managers.
Yes but you would think that when you've been managed by the likes of Lippi, Capello and Ancelotti, many of them having won major trophies at big clubs you'd think that you have something to show for it, but none of that have even stood out.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,930
Yes but you would think that when you've been managed by the likes of Lippi, Capello and Ancelotti, many of them having won major trophies at big clubs you'd think that you have something to show for it, but none of that have even stood out.
There are loads of examples of top players who won lots of things as well but I'd say the main benefit is respect from players playing under you more than anything else. If you're managing a top club then it helps to be a Zidane or even a player like Guardiola, but many rubbish or non-players have also gained huge respect by coaching achievements and personality (Mourinho, Sacchi, Sampaoli, and a long list of mediocre former players).
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Worth mentioning that De Rossi did a great job at SPAL last season contributing to their relegation to Serie C averaging less than 1 point per game in 17 matches.
this was funny but do you remember when conte's sides arezzo and atalanta also finished bottom of serie b? i do

and conte went to be the reason juve became top again for a decade
 
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In a world where you are as good as your last game. Myopic view.

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Maybe, maybe not. But incessant praise of absolute nobody in a coaching world after a few games is laughable. You could make a case for the likes of Motta who is having tremendous season and would be my 1st pick should we part ways with Ibn Al-legri.

Which is why he is not the best example. Remember when Ciro Ferrara took over from Ranieri? Players tend to feel motivated under a new manager 'breath of fresh air.' However it remains to be seen whether its a temporary boost or a more permenant one.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,632
...Players tend to feel motivated under a new manager 'breath of fresh air.' However it remains to be seen whether its a temporary boost or a more permenant one.
exactly. stats back this up.

many, many people here should read, at least occasionally. this would be a great start:

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i've already suggested this book multiple times. it's simple, not too long, based on facts, not biased, and general enough so it won't hurt anybody's sensible feelings. based on a small sample, those who read it, often see football a bit differently. i'm not sure that some selected bright minds of tuz would understand a word of it but if after reading it, they would just not spew every shit that comes to their minds, then it is certainly worth a try
 

juventus4life

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2012
4,381
"The lads had a good game against a phenomenal Atalanta. Yildiz growing his hair out again? He needs to focus more on helping out his defensive midfielders so I made him cut his hair the first time, next time I will start him as left wingback. We should be more composed against these teams. Unfortunately we can't win every game, so let's focus on securing top 4."
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My kids love to liquify people in Photoshop. Can I liquify him, too?
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
Max Allegri:

"I'm not worried and can't understand the criticism, but it's disappointing to drop points. We're fighting for a top-four finish and we're in the Coppa Italia semi-finals, so we've met our objectives for now."

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Max Allegri: "A single team can't always win there are other teams also. Juventus had nine exceptional years, then there was a generational change."
 
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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,947
Max Allegri:

"I'm not worried and can't understand the criticism, but it's disappointing to drop points. We're fighting for a top-four finish and we're in the Coppa Italia semi-finals, so we've met our objectives for now."

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Max Allegri: "A single team can't always win there are other teams also. Juventus had nine exceptional years, then there was a generational change."
Just confirm that this clown is getting sacked soon please.
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,766
We're fighting for a top-four finish and we're in the Coppa Italia semi-finals, so we've met our objectives for now."
:lol:

We went from "next season we will fight for the scudetto" to a trophyless season now being the objective all along. Good to know. Just reconfirming how much of a loser he truly is, moving goalposts because he can't take responsibility for failing to meet the expectations he set himself. Idiot.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,029
Scudetto is next year's objective though. We are still in rebuilding mode. Instead of throwing tantrums, a bit of patience would have been nice. #2025 Scudetto #Believe #Greatest coach ever #Jannah #Jihhad
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
Former Juventus defender Sergio Porrini: "In a month Juventus has lost credibility and solidity. I expected more from Allegri's return. He lacks at least one European triumph to juxtapose him with Lippi. Both are great at managing the group, but on the level of play there is a big difference. Our Juventus played attacking football. Going back to Juve: when you wear that jersey, you have to go beyond expectations. You can't settle and be happy for a top four finish.It is ridiculous that Allegri sets his own objectives to lessen the burden of expectations on himself.[Tuttosport)
 

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