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Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,649
it's the tuz mentality here mainly by throaters. they've switched to victim mentality because it takes away from the coach's horrendous performance


so now since last season the perspective has shifted to refs are to blame. u see only juve gets screwed by refs. when refs screw other teams it's not ref bias. funny how you didn't see this focus on refs when juve was winning titles.

but now the victim mentality aka the inter mentality has won the throaters over.
I know what you mean but it's the tuz mentality here mainly ...


No seriously I pointed this exact thing out how we turned into what we used to laugh at, you can thank bot123 for infecting this place with that victim mentality too quick to call everyone out and cover up for bs not seeing the obvious.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
"It’s a disgrace that somehow Napoli is over +20 on VAR decisions and Juve is over -20."

Still on about that .
Typical posts that you saw on FIF every match day.
I'd laugh ,but it's just pathetic .
 

magician

Junior Member
Oct 22, 2022
351
"It’s a disgrace that somehow Napoli is over +20 on VAR decisions and Juve is over -20."

Still on about that .
Typical posts that you saw on FIF every match day.
I'd laugh ,but it's just pathetic .
The thing is, AFAIK Juve never ever gotten close to the "+" side of those ref decisions even if you stretch back the record to a decade or more. While the Milanese, the roman, and Napoli would at least got one season or two where they got on the clear "+" side of red decisions...

So how's that for you?
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
The thing is, AFAIK Juve never ever gotten close to the "+" side of those ref decisions even if you stretch back the record to a decade or more. While the Milanese, the roman, and Napoli would at least got one season or two where they got on the clear "+" side of red decisions...

So how's that for you?
Where was the whining when we won 9 in a row?
Did we not get unfair treatment then?

We used to make fun of this mentality exibiteted by merda ,crapoli and other teams fans.
 

magician

Junior Member
Oct 22, 2022
351
Where was the whining when we won 9 in a row?
Did we not get unfair treatment then?
Holy shit, do you remember when conte immediately got a ridiculous ban after he won the 1st Scudetto with us? I don't remember whether it was on an involuntary traffic accident involvement case (maybe this one involved carrera) or the failure to report possible match fixing case, both are ridiculous cases that suddenly appeared only after we won the league.

Did that happen in other top leagues? Nope.

And yes I believe we had the right to complain about unfair ref decisions even during our dominance period, but we were still winning anyway because the league was so shit in quality so it didn't matter anyway.

But for the sake of justice and sportsmanship? We totally had a right to complain!
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Holy shit, do you remember when conte immediately got a ridiculous ban after he won the 1st Scudetto with us? I don't remember whether it was on an involuntary traffic accident involvement case (maybe this one involved carrera) or the failure to report possible match fixing case, both are ridiculous cases that suddenly appeared only after we won the league.

Did that happen in other top leagues? Nope.

And yes I believe we had the right to complain about unfair ref decisions even during our dominance period, but we were still winning anyway because the league was so shit in quality so it didn't matter anyway.

But for the sake of justice and sportsmanship? We totally had a right to complain!
The league is still shit in quality .
We just got shitier and so the need to constant whine about referees ,which in turn makes us look like sore losers.
That's the corelation .
When you register 3 shots on target against Bologna at home , the only thing you have left is to whine against the referees for perceived bias.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,656
Where was the whining when we won 9 in a row?
Did we not get unfair treatment then?
conte used to bitch a lot about refs and opponents. don't you fucking remember him calling galliani "mafiosi di calcio", or it simply doesn't fit your current agenda, so you conveniently chose to ignore it?

since calciopoli there is a clear bias against juventus by the refs. sometimes it's stronger, sometimes it's not even noticeable, but it's there. and it's certainly systematic. when a ref makes a mistake against milan, aia president and figc president are immediately there to apologize. when the ref and var simply take away a legit winning goal from juve against salernitana, the figc president blatantly lies into our face by saying nobody made a mistake.

here's your level of argumentation:


he also spends the whole day arguing with "armchair experts" without even acknowledging factual double measures. a napoli fan, avid juve hater, stalker and wife beater. great company.

please go on with your bullshit, i can't wait what you have left in your bag.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
"It’s a disgrace that somehow Napoli is over +20 on VAR decisions and Juve is over -20."

Still on about that .
Typical posts that you saw on FIF every match day.
I'd laugh ,but it's just pathetic .
:sergio:

Mental illness

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The league is still shit in quality .
We just got shitier and so the need to constant whine about referees ,which in turn makes us look like sore losers.
That's the corelation .
When you register 3 shots on target against Bologna at home , the only thing you have left is to whine against the referees for perceived bias.
:sergio:

more mental illness
 

singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
Nah. It’s a joke. xG is a meh stat. As shown by this match. Though going by the performance I watched, a 2-2 draw would have been the appropriate result in this match.
This is why PI is such a beast of a Tuzzer. In one post he will ridicule you for using the xgols or for saying the Tottenham class was tight, in the other he will argue for the EXACT opposite and now youre the idiot again. He will throw anything thats within reach, at you.
You simply cant beat him, and ultimately you will get a well calibrated insult, designed to circumvent the highly sensitive mod radars but still delivering highest possible social damage. :calmark: :juventus:
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
This is why PI is such a beast of a Tuzzer. In one post he will ridicule you for using the xgols or for saying the Tottenham class was tight, in the other he will argue for the EXACT opposite and now youre the idiot again. He will throw anything thats within reach, at you.
You simply cant beat him, and ultimately you will get a well calibrated insult, designed to circumvent the highly sensitive mod radars but still delivering highest possible social damage. :calmark: :juventus:
I love you too, my darling dearest Dingus.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
This is why PI is such a beast of a Tuzzer. In one post he will ridicule you for using the xgols or for saying the Tottenham class was tight, in the other he will argue for the EXACT opposite and now youre the idiot again. He will throw anything thats within reach, at you.
You simply cant beat him, and ultimately you will get a well calibrated insult, designed to circumvent the highly sensitive mod radars but still delivering highest possible social damage. :calmark: :juventus:
It's called mental midgetry .
His armchair expertize doesn't allow him to see that .
It's just pathetic.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
conte used to bitch a lot about refs and opponents. don't you fucking remember him calling galliani "mafiosi di calcio", or it simply doesn't fit your current agenda, so you conveniently chose to ignore it?

since calciopoli there is a clear bias against juventus by the refs. sometimes it's stronger, sometimes it's not even noticeable, but it's there. and it's certainly systematic. when a ref makes a mistake against milan, aia president and figc president are immediately there to apologize. when the ref and var simply take away a legit winning goal from juve against salernitana, the figc president blatantly lies into our face by saying nobody made a mistake.

here's your level of argumentation:


he also spends the whole day arguing with "armchair experts" without even acknowledging factual double measures. a napoli fan, avid juve hater, stalker and wife beater. great company.

please go on with your bullshit, i can't wait what you have left in your bag.
I don't care about that Conte episode.
Where was your whining s4tch ?
Or you mean to say in those times the refs weren't biased against Juve.

When we were winning we were making fun of everyone for their constant whining .
Now when we aren't winning we suddenly discovered that the refs are biased against us ,like that would change anything.

Now some have become like those we used to fun of and people don't seem to think it's anything wrong with that (behaving like a sore losers) .
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,947
I don't understand the argument that we have to play above the officials, that you only deserve decisions if you play well. We're clearly not good enough to do that so decisions will largely sway the results for this team when a goal is deciding most of our games.

Every team should be treated fairly, and mistakes should happen evenly. Maybe it's not a conversation to have straight after we got away with a laughable decision by an incompetent ref, but it's clearly one to have since Farsopoli, as we’ve been treated criminally by conditioned refs.

We need to move past this idea of not talking about officials because we are Juve. In Italy the system was that someone from the top clubs would lean on the designator, all clubs had their ways of doing this. Farsopoli stopped all that so now they rant through the media, whilst we be good Juve and think we'll play above it. There's no point in taking the moral high ground anymore.

I get why people use it for their agenda, but even a shit team also deserves a fair crack. We have about as much positive sway as Lecce.
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
10,654
its all over again, why every Juve game have to have so much controversions. Sometimes when u watch it u just feel powerless when so many controversial decisions are made, I can only imagine how the fans feel for it.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,335
its all over again, why every Juve game have to have so much controversions. Sometimes when u watch it u just feel powerless when so many controversial decisions are made, I can only imagine how the fans feel for it.
In times of doubt look at the Mister and have faith.
 

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