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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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That basically goes hand in hand with Vlahovic's personal struggles though doesn't it, as he is the one starting the majority of games. Kean and Milik have only played sporadically.
i'd like to argue your point and point out that milik has 8 goals and 1 assist in 32 games and kean has 8 goals in 35 games. combined that's 16 goals and 1 assist in 67 matches. thats serie b levels of attacking football.

let me put it into perspective how bad that stat is.

halaand has scored 16 goals and 1 assist in JUST cup competitions. not even league title. just cups like CL and FA cup he has same amount of goals as 2 strikers combined for juve in all compeitions. thats just one player

dybala has scored more goals and assists than both kean and milik combined. and thats just one player.

it's unacceptable for attacking players to be struggling this much.
 

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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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i'd like to argue your point and point out that milik has 8 goals and 1 assist in 32 games and kean has 8 goals in 35 games. combined that's 16 goals and 1 assist in 67 matches. thats serie b levels of attacking football.

let me put it into perspective how bad that stat is.

halaand has scored 16 goals and 1 assist in JUST cup competitions. not even league title. just cups like CL and FA cup he has same amount of goals as 2 strikers combined for juve in all compeitions. thats just one player

dybala has scored more goals and assists than both kean and milik combined. and thats just one player.

it's unacceptable for attacking players to be struggling this much.
Who said it wasn't bad?

Using Haaland as a benchmark is also useless, as he's having a record season in a flying, attacking team built with an endless pit of money. But Vlahovic's figures for sure should be way higher - crux of argument.
 

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Jul 11, 2016
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i'd like to argue your point and point out that milik has 8 goals and 1 assist in 32 games and kean has 8 goals in 35 games. combined that's 16 goals and 1 assist in 67 matches. thats serie b levels of attacking football.

let me put it into perspective how bad that stat is.

halaand has scored 16 goals and 1 assist in JUST cup competitions. not even league title. just cups like CL and FA cup he has same amount of goals as 2 strikers combined for juve in all compeitions. thats just one player

dybala has scored more goals and assists than both kean and milik combined. and thats just one player.

it's unacceptable for attacking players to be struggling this much.
I don't disagree but you can't just look at games played. You have to look at minutes on the pitch. Dybala is a starter. Kean will usually come on in the last 10mins of a game and might get the occasional start.

Combined Kean/Milik have 16 goals in 2700mins. Dybala has 16 goals in 2300mins. It still skews more towards Dybala but the guy is easily the better talent out of the three.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
I don't disagree but you can't just look at games played. You have to look at minutes on the pitch. Dybala is a starter. Kean will usually come on in the last 10mins of a game and might get the occasional start.

Combined Kean/Milik have 16 goals in 2700mins. Dybala has 16 goals in 2300mins. It still skews more towards Dybala but the guy is easily the better talent out of the three.
yes it's fair point you bring.

my intent is to point out that the entire strike team is broken.and if your strike force is broken why isn't anything being done to fix it
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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Massimiliano Allegri:

The rest are all doing ok. Miretti after a moment of dip, which is normal for a 2003 that played more than 30 games for Juventus first team, is coming back in a great form. Such as Iling Jr that after Lecce hurt himself

Pogba is doing better and tomorrow I think he can play a part of the game.

All games are now decisive. In Serie A we come from 4 losses in 5 games. From Thursday we will concentrate again on Serie A because our minimal objective is to be in top 4 and trying to finish 2nd also because 2nd means playing the super coppa next season.

We must continue to think about the on the field matters. We must continue to behave correctly. Complaining doesn’t help. I think that in all my years at Juventus I tried to behave like this. Complaining don’t bring points and we spend mental energies. We have to be angry because we loss a point on the field on Sunday and that’s what we have to think about, about ourselves.

Massimiliano Allegri:

100% staying? I have a contract of two years with Juventus. I feel privileged. Working 7 years at Juve is not granted and not for everyone. Then in life sometimes things are going wrong and we need to face them with large shoulders and clear ideas about the future. I am a corporate person. I feel the responsibility. Let’s first think about finishing well the season. Finishing second which is not easy, winning a cup which is not easy.

But we must have clear ideas about the future because Juventus needs to program next season. But with all serenity and the will to do better being aware that Juve must go back to win. If we will be able to win next season, I don’t know but we will do our best and we will put all our efforts into it as done these 2 seasons where we reached some results like the next gen project where Juventus is ahead of everyone. Only club with a 2nd team, 2 training centers, one of the first with a performing women team. In the last ten years a lot has been done. 10 important years such as the history of Juventus. Then it’s normal in this moment to stay silent. Even if we must stay silent always, when we win and when we lose but that’s a Juve thing. And continue to work with seriousness as we are doing.

Massimiliano Allegri:
Kostic and Chiesa are both doing well.
Kean is out, yes. Hopefully we can have him back in 10 days.

We sometimes made mistakes reacting too much on the sideline and this is something we need to improve. Tomorrow is a beautiful game. What happened the last time we need to leave it there. Juve identified 171 persons thanks to the technology. 2 persons immediately, the rest in these days and Juve should be an example to follow on this.
It’s normal that every year we work to win trophies. Last year unfortunately it didn’t happen. This year we have the possibility to do it.

Milik played well vs Napoli, if he recuperated physically he could play.
The trident? Tomorrow I decide if starting all of them or not because the game is long and we must think about the changes as well.
Di Maria doesn’t always need 90min to be decisive. He can change the game in 30 minutes as well and showed it vs Napoli.

Massimiliano Allegri:
"There are a lot of things to solve in Italian football but to solve them they need to decide and in Italy they never take decisions."

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Source: https://t.me/GJustjuve
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
Massimiliano Allegri:

The rest are all doing ok. Miretti after a moment of dip, which is normal for a 2003 that played more than 30 games for Juventus first team, is coming back in a great form. Such as Iling Jr that after Lecce hurt himself

Pogba is doing better and tomorrow I think he can play a part of the game.

All games are now decisive. In Serie A we come from 4 losses in 5 games. From Thursday we will concentrate again on Serie A because our minimal objective is to be in top 4 and trying to finish 2nd also because 2nd means playing the super coppa next season.

We must continue to think about the on the field matters. We must continue to behave correctly. Complaining doesn’t help. I think that in all my years at Juventus I tried to behave like this. Complaining don’t bring points and we spend mental energies. We have to be angry because we loss a point on the field on Sunday and that’s what we have to think about, about ourselves.

Massimiliano Allegri:

100% staying? I have a contract of two years with Juventus. I feel privileged. Working 7 years at Juve is not granted and not for everyone. Then in life sometimes things are going wrong and we need to face them with large shoulders and clear ideas about the future. I am a corporate person. I feel the responsibility. Let’s first think about finishing well the season. Finishing second which is not easy, winning a cup which is not easy.

But we must have clear ideas about the future because Juventus needs to program next season. But with all serenity and the will to do better being aware that Juve must go back to win. If we will be able to win next season, I don’t know but we will do our best and we will put all our efforts into it as done these 2 seasons where we reached some results like the next gen project where Juventus is ahead of everyone. Only club with a 2nd team, 2 training centers, one of the first with a performing women team. In the last ten years a lot has been done. 10 important years such as the history of Juventus. Then it’s normal in this moment to stay silent. Even if we must stay silent always, when we win and when we lose but that’s a Juve thing. And continue to work with seriousness as we are doing.

Massimiliano Allegri:
Kostic and Chiesa are both doing well.
Kean is out, yes. Hopefully we can have him back in 10 days.

We sometimes made mistakes reacting too much on the sideline and this is something we need to improve. Tomorrow is a beautiful game. What happened the last time we need to leave it there. Juve identified 171 persons thanks to the technology. 2 persons immediately, the rest in these days and Juve should be an example to follow on this.
It’s normal that every year we work to win trophies. Last year unfortunately it didn’t happen. This year we have the possibility to do it.

Milik played well vs Napoli, if he recuperated physically he could play.
The trident? Tomorrow I decide if starting all of them or not because the game is long and we must think about the changes as well.
Di Maria doesn’t always need 90min to be decisive. He can change the game in 30 minutes as well and showed it vs Napoli.

Massimiliano Allegri:
"There are a lot of things to solve in Italian football but to solve them they need to decide and in Italy they never take decisions."

- - - Updated - - -

Source: https://t.me/GJustjuve
Such Grinta and focus. My coach my coach
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,238
1)and [Dybala is] just one player.

2) it's unacceptable for attacking players to be struggling this much.
Good post overall, but you give zero evidence for either of the above two claims.

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