Massimiliano Allegri (447 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

Not no, Yes. Allegri has been shit, but boy are people gonna miss blaming everything on him once he's gone. Vlahovic can't do a single thing right, but don't you dare blame it on the player himself.

Both are shit, say it as it is.

Well yes Vlahovic was horrible, but lets not forget that Chiesa, Di Maria, Kostic, Cuadrado, Milik, Fagioli, Miretti and even Pogba stood on the pitch. Might even say Rabiot now that he’s scoring a lot. All players who are technical and should be able to provide us with a decent attacking approach. I think it’s very clear that our conservative style is hurting us and that we have enough attacking players who are fit, we should play better and mostly create more. Allegri is to blame there. We are playing like we did when we missed 8 players, then it was understandable when we scraped the points, now I genuinely don’t understand why we refuse to press and run in especially many first halfs. It’s always consolidating and waiting for a moment

 

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[DAiDEViL]

Well yes Vlahovic was horrible, but lets not forget that Chiesa, Di Maria, Kostic, Cuadrado, Milik, Fagioli, Miretti and even Pogba stood on the pitch. Might even say Rabiot now that he’s scoring a lot. All players who are technical and should be able to provide us with a decent attacking approach. I think it’s very clear that our conservative style is hurting us and that we have enough attacking players who are fit, we should play better and mostly create more. Allegri is to blame there. We are playing like we did when we missed 8 players, then it was understandable when we scraped the points, now I genuinely don’t understand why we refuse to press and run in especially many first halfs. It’s always consolidating and waiting for a moment

I don't disagree.

But you can't blame every single thing a player gets wrong on the coach is what I'm saying.

In Vlahovic's case, you can say we play too deep, he doesn't get enough chances, all fair - BUT that does not excuse Vlahovic for doing absolutely nothing right once he does get the ball. Can't pass, can't dribble, can't hold onto the ball, doesn't win 1 on 1's.

He is where the ball goes to die.

How can one blame that ALL on the coach?

Get out.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

I don't disagree.

But you can't blame every single thing a player gets wrong on the coach is what I'm saying.

In Vlahovic's case, you can say we play too deep, he doesn't get enough chances, all fair - BUT that does not excuse Vlahovic for doing absolutely nothing right once he does get the ball. Can't pass, can't dribble, can't hold onto the ball, doesn't win 1 on 1's.

He is where the ball goes to die.

How can one blame that ALL on the coach?

Get out.

Right

Though.. i can't say that we are playing to Dusan Strengths.
Dusan is a finisher/poacher.

He was not a dribbler, and his first touch was poor (still in general).. in short.. he is a penality area player.. nothing else.
Poor man Trezeguet.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't disagree.

But you can't blame every single thing a player gets wrong on the coach is what I'm saying.

In Vlahovic's case, you can say we play too deep, he doesn't get enough chances, all fair - BUT that does not excuse Vlahovic for doing absolutely nothing right once he does get the ball. Can't pass, can't dribble, can't hold onto the ball, doesn't win 1 on 1's.

He is where the ball goes to die.

How can one blame that ALL on the coach?

Get out.

Because he did it all well before he came here. Ever since Allegri touched him he’s been progressively worse. That’s all on Allegri.

 

[Wings]

sporting, nipples and inda...

squad needs a shock!

3 losses in a row coming.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Great coach.

 

[s4tch]

3 losses in a row coming.

yeah, that whole "amici di nessuno" mentality got us this far

we're back to being shit just like before our little resurrection started before the world cup. this wasn't as embarrassing as the monza loss but we looked the same disoriented bunch of players. paredes is an obvious common denominator, some players had shockers (gatti vs monza, fagioli today), but the most important thing is the negative, reactive approach. couldn't be more fed up with this. we can't dominate every match, but not even trying it beyond the 20th minute of every match is simply criminal

 

[duranfj]

Extend him and give him more power. That can't be anything but a great idea

 

[s4tch]

lapo to the rescue

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Ah yes lapo, all noise no action with him

 

[Hydde]

Lapo is a hippie. He has nothing to do with what Juventus needs.

Btw fuck allegri

 

[Hist]

Results aside..
There will be no enough new fans (customers).. outside Italy..

Off course, I am not referring that the new coach will get the results, which will probably get new fans..
Trying the same shit again and again.. will not produce different results.

Yup you need the new coach to deliver better results and better performances to offset the costs. In a crisis like this I doubt they’ll take the risk.
They know Allegri gets top 4, costs nothing extra and won’t throw a tantrum if they sell Vlahovic or anyone else to balance books. He has two years left on his contract to stabilize the clubs finances and then he’ll go elsewhere

 

[maxi]

Its gonna be a long two years..

 

[Hist]

Its gonna be a long two years..

yup. I am starting to put money aside for a tailor made gimp suit. Jj logo right on the buttocks

 

[juventus4life]

Understand that Fagioli made a huge mistake but the team should have played better. It's Sass for God sake. Is De Zerbi a good coach?

 

[cimenk]

Ita obvious its not all on Allegri but also the quality of the players. The raise of play was evident after Di Maria and Vhiesa entered the field. Its not like we have qualtiy rotation players

We need more flair players upfront ?
We have Soule and Illing Jr. now. They are part of our good period in mid season when we also hit by lots of injuries. But now, both of them also rarely played.

Some players looks tired after several games in a row with Coppa Italia and EL. We should been able to rotate some players

 

[ladstone]

I don't disagree.

But you can't blame every single thing a player gets wrong on the coach is what I'm saying.

In Vlahovic's case, you can say we play too deep, he doesn't get enough chances, all fair - BUT that does not excuse Vlahovic for doing absolutely nothing right once he does get the ball. Can't pass, can't dribble, can't hold onto the ball, doesn't win 1 on 1's.

He is where the ball goes to die.

How can one blame that ALL on the coach?

Get out.

No one in the team can pass, nor dribble. Everyone is frightened to hold the ball or run to receive a pass. I don’t think it all about the player’s’ ability.


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[Bianconero81]

Understand that Fagioli made a huge mistake but the team should have played better. It's Sass for God sake. Is De Zerbi a good coach?

De Zerbi is young and progressive, but he meets the one very important criterion for any new hire - he's Italian.

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The throaters will tell us Failegri is a victim (been one for almost two years now apparently), and that he represents the safe option. Therefore, we should continue with him, as he offers "stability."

 

[juventus4life]

De Zerbi is young and progressive, but he meets the one very important criterion for any new hire - he's Italian.

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The throaters will tell us Failegri is a victim (been one for almost two years now apparently), and that he represents the safe option. Therefore, we should continue with him, as he offers "stability."

Don understand why a coach shall be Italian. If a coach is good, hire him. Nowadays I'm not even mad or surprised if we lose. I was a few years ago but not anymore. Rather spending time with my three lovely kids. My love to Juve didn't die though and that's the problem.

 

[Rockets]

great thread