Massimiliano Allegri (194 Viewers)

[s4tch]

Is there a single thing about this new Juventus you can proudly say you love?

that is actually a brilliant question and honestly i tried to answer it myself for years. maybe the following:
- history, tradition (best italian club on the long run, longest family ownership in european footie as far as i know, always gave the core to the italian nt, stuff like this)
- juve has been part of my life for 30+ years now
- new stadium has a cool aura despite being on the small side, i still loved it every time i visited. have to say it used to be packed pre covid.
- wherever we go in italy we usually face utter hate and respect at the same time (respect is gone now tho)
- 2 exciting young homegrown players in miretti, fagioli finally made it to the 1st team

and only the last one belongs to the current juve, most of it is historical. underwhelming, isn't it.

identity crisis is real. can't give a shit about the currently established identity elements like jj, fashion, tiktok, z-gen appeal etc. if i was 14 now i couldn't be bothered by jj

 

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[Nejc]

So there are people who believe that Allegri is not responsible for playing like a Serie B team? And that removing Agnelli but keeping Allegri will make us improve?

 

[Orgut]

So there are people who believe that Allegri is not responsible for playing like a Serie B team? And that removing Agnelli but keeping Allegri will make us improve?

Im pretty sure our Serie B team would kick present Juve's ass...
Its not even a Serie B level... We just have individuals who are good enough to score on their own which get us points here and then.
Improvement can easily be made.
Keeping Allegri is what prevents us from starting the change.

Agnelli? I think we should replace him at the helm as his current image make us the bad guys.

Nedved - Actually I think he should stay.

Club players?
Everyone except Chiesa Pogba Di Maria Bremer and Vlahovic should find a new team as they dont work hard enough on the field or dont possess enough quality.
Id really sell them all (maybe Locatelli aside) and take players who are either hard workers or possess some quality.

Paredes - already decided I rather have Rovella who dont stop running.

 

[Salvo]

Only reason he is still here because Andrea doesn't want to admit his mistake

Sadly by the time there is the break we could be too far from top 4

 

[juve123]

Only reason he is still here because Andrea doesn't want to admit his mistake

Sadly by the time there is the break we could be too far from top 4

What do you expect from such stubborn person putting his friendship over the club and more worried about European super league.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

What do you expect from such stubborn person putting his friendship over the club and more worried about European super league.

His money and his owned club

 

[juve123]

His money and his owned club

Unfortunately I think the time is right to sell the club with new owners and vision.

 

[Akshen]

Only reason he is still here because Andrea doesn't want to admit his mistake

Sadly by the time there is the break we could be too far from top 4

for me the only reason he is here is that we are not sacking coaches midseason, Pirlo survived, Sarri survived even Del Neri. I think though there is small chance of firing him at the world cup break and hopefully it happens.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

that is actually a brilliant question and honestly i tried to answer it myself for years. maybe the following:
- history, tradition (best italian club on the long run, longest family ownership in european footie as far as i know, always gave the core to the italian nt, stuff like this)
- juve has been part of my life for 30+ years now
- new stadium has a cool aura despite being on the small side, i still loved it every time i visited. have to say it used to be packed pre covid.
- wherever we go in italy we usually face utter hate and respect at the same time (respect is gone now tho)
- 2 exciting young homegrown players in miretti, fagioli finally made it to the 1st team

and only the last one belongs to the current juve, most of it is historical. underwhelming, isn't it.

identity crisis is real. can't give a shit about the currently established identity elements like jj, fashion, tiktok, z-gen appeal etc. if i was 14 now i couldn't be bothered by jj

That’s the sad part. Tradition won’t mean shit for the newer generation and Italian football doesn’t appeal to them one bit. We still follow it because we grew up watching some of the greats wearing this shirt. I know we’ve been saying this for years but I think this is it. It will take a decade or more for us to recover and we might never do like Milan/Inter didn’t.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

That’s the sad part. Tradition won’t mean shit for the newer generation and Italian football doesn’t appeal to them one bit. We still follow it because we grew up watching some of the greats wearing this shirt. I know we’ve been saying this for years but I think this is it. It will take a decade or more for us to recover and we might never do like Milan/Inter didn’t.

Once upon time
There was a power in football called "Italy", Juventus, Milan, Inter..


We will be an Ajax in 10-20 years at this rate..

A team supported locally only

 

[Strickland]

For me this makes sense, hopefully its true. I can live with 1 more month of Max if it means we won't have his 9m contract hanging over our heads for the next 30 months after that.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Even the most average coach would have us in Champions League places right now, which is crucial for us.

 

[Seven]

Some of you people either have a very short memory or must be 16 years old. Allegri has won lots with us and got us to a CL final twice. And realistically, how much is a coach to blame for the failure of an organization? He's just an easy target. The truth is we've been doing some very stupid shit ever since Marotta left and we're paying for our mistakes now. We need to rebuild as a club. Not just fire a coach and get someone else.

 

[.zero]

Is there a single thing about this new Juventus you can proudly say you love? It’s like they stripped everything that made the club what it was and apparently even the current fans are shit.

Really starting to wonder if we’ll ever be a powerhouse in Europe again. Think about it Inter/Milan never recovered, it’s been over a decade and neither show signs of becoming an CL contender again anytime soon, I think this might be it for domestic Italian football. We were it’s last breath.

Great question. TBH there is nothing that I love about Jj.

that is actually a brilliant question and honestly i tried to answer it myself for years. maybe the following:
- history, tradition (best italian club on the long run, longest family ownership in european footie as far as i know, always gave the core to the italian nt, stuff like this)
- juve has been part of my life for 30+ years now
- new stadium has a cool aura despite being on the small side, i still loved it every time i visited. have to say it used to be packed pre covid.
- wherever we go in italy we usually face utter hate and respect at the same time (respect is gone now tho)
- 2 exciting young homegrown players in miretti, fagioli finally made it to the 1st team

and only the last one belongs to the current juve, most of it is historical. underwhelming, isn't it.

identity crisis is real. can't give a shit about the currently established identity elements like jj, fashion, tiktok, z-gen appeal etc. if i was 14 now i couldn't be bothered by jj

It’s not looking good brev

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For me this makes sense, hopefully its true. I can live with 1 more month of Max if it means we won't have his 9m contract hanging over our heads for the next 30 months after that.

At this point we can all agree and pray to finish top 4 right? That’s the bare minimum, no?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Some of you people either have a very short memory or must be 16 years old. Allegri has won lots with us and got us to a CL final twice. And realistically, how much is a coach to blame for the failure of an organization? He's just an easy target. The truth is we've been doing some very stupid shit ever since Marotta left and we're paying for our mistakes now. We need to rebuild as a club. Not just fire a coach and get someone else.

 

[swag]

I actually agree with Andries on this one.

Allegri is acting like he needs a brain scan due to some horrible car accident injury to his frontal lobe, yes. But this goes beyond just his choices. This is mismanagement at the president on down level.

 

[Xperd]

Some of you people either have a very short memory or must be 16 years old. Allegri has won lots with us and got us to a CL final twice. And realistically, how much is a coach to blame for the failure of an organization? He's just an easy target. The truth is we've been doing some very stupid shit ever since Marotta left and we're paying for our mistakes now. We need to rebuild as a club. Not just fire a coach and get someone else.

Agree and seems like rehiring Allegri is proving to be the biggest mistake of all.

 

[Clamarc]

Some of you people either have a very short memory or must be 16 years old. Allegri has won lots with us and got us to a CL final twice. And realistically, how much is a coach to blame for the failure of an organization? He's just an easy target. The truth is we've been doing some very stupid shit ever since Marotta left and we're paying for our mistakes now. We need to rebuild as a club. Not just fire a coach and get someone else.

He was doing well in the past but we don't play football under this Allegri 2.0. Yes the squad isn't as good as back then but if there's gameplan they should be able to do well. I mean come on, we got beaten by the likes of Monza and Maccabi, that's enough reason that the blame is mostly on Allegri's shoulder.
No reason to be optimistic at all if he continues to be here

 

[s4tch]

oh noes, an other one who started to put some blame on our overprotected bunch of spoiled mercenaries

yes, allegri is doing a bad job. yes, he shouldn't be here. but our squad has been underperforming for 3+ seasons now, under the 3rd coach. it's not only about playing deeper or higher, playing faster or slower, playing 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. it's about realizing the weight of the jersey and playing accordingly

 

[swag]

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