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CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
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let's upgrade the team because this is simply insufficient.

anyway, some numbers:


this is still nothing to be proud of.
The season we got Ronaldo was the one season we could have upgraded the midfield with world class talent. Something we lost post Vidal-Pirlo-Pogba (when he stillgave a shit).

We were financially ok, had a good momentum and at the time we were one of the top 5 clubs in the world. Last two scudetti would have been ours.

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"I don't know if we will see more of them, Aké has already played, as has Soulé. The boys are phenomenal one day and then it seems they don't know how to play. They have to find their balance, playing at Juve isn't easy, some are ready, some not." [Allegri]
He’s not wrong, there’s a lot of hyping around most youngsters when they aren’t even that good but me personally I wouldn’t say what he did to the media. And since we got very little to lose at this point I’d actually give the kids some playing time.

They might not turn out to be special players but they can’t have consistency without playing. Who knows they might turn out better than some of the high paid parasites we currently have.
 
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Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
10,633
ppl say Allegri is worse than Pirlo, but we all forgot that the 4th place was only achieved then because of Napoli blunder and it was pure luck. Getting that 4th place with 3 games in hand is a different thing.
These last 3 games he should be already testing formation for the next season.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
ppl say Allegri is worse than Pirlo, but we all forgot that the 4th place was only achieved then because of Napoli blunder and it was pure luck. Getting that 4th place with 3 games in hand is a different thing.
These last 3 games he should be already testing formation for the next season.
So by your logic, Sarri 19/20 is better than Allegri this season because he win scudetto with 2 games in hand :eek:
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
ppl say Allegri is worse than Pirlo, but we all forgot that the 4th place was only achieved then because of Napoli blunder and it was pure luck. Getting that 4th place with 3 games in hand is a different thing.
These last 3 games he should be already testing formation for the next season.
You do realize that we 4th only because there is no Atalanta this season?
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juve_juve_juve

Junior Member
Oct 17, 2005
121
To the anti-Max posters here, read above. One of the most pro-Max people here tells you what I believe is FAIR. I might even give him till end of next season depending on what we don't know between now and 12/2022.

What more do you want? Read my signature below. You guys could end up being right but you're wasting your breath continuing with the criticism. I was willing to bring hated Suarez here last season if it meant success for Juve. I have no favs.
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Allegri cultists do not remember the reason why Allegri was sacked from here before? Because juve was already playing dreadful jihad ball football even WITH CR7 in the team. And by this season Allegri HAS PROVED that his method has not changed at all.

Allegri should never come back here and he has to be axed before Juve loses even more of the most precious resource ever : time.

If I were the boss at Juve, I wouldn't further gamble with Allegri and risk 2 more years of potential instability.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
Allegri cultists do not remember the reason why Allegri was sacked from here before? Because juve was already playing dreadful jihad ball football even WITH CR7 in the team. And by this season Allegri HAS PROVED that his method has not changed at all.

Allegri should never come back here and he has to be axed before Juve loses even more of the most precious resource ever : time.

If I were the boss at Juve, I wouldn't further gamble with Allegri and risk 2 more years of potential instability.
They completely forgot that he was often playing 442 in 2019 but it was Matuidi who he was using as today's Rabiot and he was looking dreadful because he often was forced to do the left wing runs infront of Sandro instead of staying at the back and covering Sandro's runs. Then their scapegoat was Matuidi.
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See? even fucking heatmaps are almost the same, fucking dinosaurball. Instead of adapating the system that suits his players he adapts players to his dinosaurball. He tries to turn LCM/DM type of players into LEFT WING MIDFIELDERS :rofl: and then expect them to deliver from there. But of course it was Matuidi then and now It's Rabiot who is the problem.
 
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Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
but this squad winning the scudetto is certainly a stretch. before the season started (so we still had ronaldo and had an illusion of a healthy chiesa for the whole season) i expected us to finish no better than 3rd, and i said that max wasn't a miracle maker. i still think the same.
why?

I remember you being against Pirlo staying and saying that by keeping him we'd be lowering our standards. And then you go and expect a much more experienced and proven coach to finish no better than 1 place above Pirlo's Juve? Why?
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
why?

I remember you being against Pirlo staying and saying that by keeping him we'd be lowering our standards. And then you go and expect a much more experienced and proven coach to finish no better than 1 place above Pirlo's Juve? Why?
In the MUCH worse league :rofl: Because they are allegri's apologists, the proud members of Allegri's cult, fanboys of dinosaurball aka jihadiball.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
Milan and Napoli stayed pretty similar to what they'd been, no one knew what to expect from Mourinho's Roma and the downfall of Atalanta also wasn't easy to predict. But Inter slowing down after losing Conte and 2 WC players isn't a big surprise to anybody.
Milan was left without Donnarumma and Calhanoglu first, then they were hit with Kjaer's season ending injury and Zlatan has missed around 20 rounds or so for them, so yes they were in MUCH worse state than they were a year ago. Napoli haven't bought a single player apart from Politano, they were hit with Osimhen's injuries and AFCON tournament and Roma has no squad to fight for top4.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,642
why?

I remember you being against Pirlo staying and saying that by keeping him we'd be lowering our standards. And then you go and expect a much more experienced and proven coach to finish no better than 1 place above Pirlo's Juve? Why?
cause no real upgrades were made (i thought locatelli was good, but inexperienced and not a difference maker) and the old players just got older, slower, more injury prone. there were also some on an expiring contract, no wonder some of them were disappointing. and morata never had 2 good seasons in a row. the squad still needed upgrade to aim higher. read my posts, i also stated that max wasn't a miracle maker. i never trusted the new management either. this club is a shitshow since marotta left. as i said many times during last season, fixing the squad should have been the first priority which obviously didn't happen.

the fact that we could have aimed higher if tek was doing his job in the opening 2 rounds tell a lot about the league.

at least we learned that rus knew that it was gonna be the weakest league in a decade. so thanks for the question.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
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cause no real upgrades were made (i thought locatelli was good, but inexperienced and not a difference maker) and the old players just got older, slower, more injury prone. there were also some on an expiring contract, no wonder some of them were disappointing. and morata never had 2 good seasons in a row. the squad still needed upgrade to aim higher. read my posts, i also stated that max wasn't a miracle maker. i never trusted the new management either. this club is a shitshow since marotta left. as i said many times during last season, fixing the squad should have been the first priority which obviously didn't happen.

the fact that we could have aimed higher if tek was doing his job in the opening 2 rounds tell a lot about the league.

at least we learned that rus knew that it was gonna be the weakest league in a decade. so thanks for the question.
So you deny that Locatelli plays worse because of Allegri's gargbage tactics? :rofl: Nothing new

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This shit is just the reincarnation
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of this shit
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Yet they still don't see it :rofl:
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.

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russian propaganda at its best. never said that locatelli plays worse, you dumb fuck
Im just asking a question because your remark about him not being "a difference maker" suggets that he is playing bad in your eyes or that he didn't meet your expectations
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
your posts suggest that mommy didn't make a good breakfast and the job market in sochi still refuses to deal with you

stop making shit up, little wannabe putin
So, if he didn't meet your expectations does it mean that he is playing bad? Or a player might still be playing good despite the fact that he didn't meet your expectations about him ?
 

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