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MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,412
He has until midseason next year to get us improving. Otherwise we should move on.
To the anti-Max posters here, read above. One of the most pro-Max people here tells you what I believe is FAIR. I might even give him till end of next season depending on what we don't know between now and 12/2022.

What more do you want? Read my signature below. You guys could end up being right but you're wasting your breath continuing with the criticism. I was willing to bring hated Suarez here last season if it meant success for Juve. I have no favs.
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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,417
While I get your point I can’t be convinced this squad isn’t good enough to beat the likes of Empoli, Sassuolo, Verona etc. No matter how bad we can agree it is. And it’s fucking bad. But It’s the one reason why I won’t give Max a free pass.
I am sorry if I don't understand it, but what does it mean giving someone a free pass?
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,383
I am sorry if I don't understand it, but what does it mean giving someone a free pass?
On the example I used it means he can get away with anything free of consequences because of his history and what he has achieved with this club. Even when sometimes the mistakes made were clearly his.

But I’m on board with @Post Ironic to give him until mid season next year to see if he’s able to improve what we have.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
The keyword is at times. At times even Madrid will have its bad days. In our case it’s the whole season To be clear I’m not making a direct comparison, we’re nowhere near their talent. But I refuse to believe this is the best the current coach (or Pirlo and Sarri before him) can get out of these players. I can’t be convinced they’re this bad.
They're not necessarily bad when looked at individually (some just are bad) but when you look at how the squad is built, you see flaws. I'm sure if you take some of these players and put them in better teams, they would do better. We have one winger (Cuads too but he's getting slower) who can break defenses, he's injured since I forgot when. We don't have a mezzala who can create goals and assists in the final third. We didn't have a finisher either apart from Dybala until recently when Vlahovic arrived. This is not a team that has a lot of goals in them. This is not a team that can control the ball whenever they want. And this is also not a team that can sit deep because the midfield is sure to break with a simple 1-2, and it's counterattack without Chiesa is just not threatening enough. So what exactly are we? What is the identity? What is the end goal of our team building last few years? These are issues that were pointed out a long time ago, it's not some Allegri excuse that members only came up with now. And I think most can agree. The team won 83 points with Ronaldo, Dybala on fire, and Pjanic and Matuidi controlling things in midfield. Then they lost Pjanic and Matuidi, Dybala was out a lot (but Chiesa was there) and they won 78 points, small drop off. Now you lose Ronaldo, Chiesa for several months, you sign Vlahovic but it's 15 games, and Dybala wasn't at his best most of the year. We are gonna finish slightly below last seasons tally, which is right in line with how the squad has been developing last few years.

I think the constant change in coaches and lack of clear strategy in the mercatos ruined the momentum we were on some 5 years ago. I think Allegri can still organize a team, but he will rely on difference makers up front, which we don't have at the moment. It looks ugly, but what he is trying to do would work with few "goal creators"
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
On the example I used it means he can get away with anything free of consequences because of his history and what he has achieved with this club. Even when sometimes the mistakes made were clearly his.

But I’m on board with @Post Ironic to give him until mid season next year to see if he’s able to improve what we have.
We aint firing manager in the middle of the season unless we are really in a bad position, like CL spot slipping away.

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Zero regista - Locatelli was bought for this role but instead Allegri is jumping between players and trying to use rabiot and arthur as deep lying playmakers for no reason and then you blame them for playing bad, you know you can play without regista and succeed? somehow allegri doesn't.
We don't have a pure DM - since january we have a Zakaria who was used as pure dm for M'gladbach, ask Allegri why he prefers to use him in b2b role instead of using him as pure DM.
Fullbacks - last season Danilo has made 4 assists, Cuadrado has made 10 assists and Sandro has made 3 assists, this season all of them together have 5. How so ? It's really easy to explain - Allegri doesn't let them to push forward, their main goal nowadays is to defend, look at Pellegrini, he was fucking dying today against VENEZIA.
Our left side is fucking dead amd it's been like this for the WHOLE season.
Unbalanced squad - what a rubbish. Unbalanced how? It's Allegri's job to have a balance in his squad. But instead we see this against worst squad of the league:
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being owned by ARAMU :rofl:
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See? left side is fucking dead, who makes decision about how to play? Who asks Pellegrini to stay at the back? Me? Or you? or your genius mastermind Allegri?

Me looking for excuses for Italiano? Just another BLATANT lie from allegri's cultist.
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As usual, no context at all. This is their current form:
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What he fuck does it have in common that they were able to get some points during the season from big teams ? CURRENTLY they are fucking dead and gone. they had 9 losses in a fucking row before the match against Juventus and you are looking for excuses why it was hard to beat them? really? jesus christ, dem allegroids are crazy :rofl:
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CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,383
We aint firing manager in the middle of the season unless we are really in a bad position, like CL spot slipping away.
Didn’t say we’d fire him midway through next season. I meant it should be enough time by then to analyze and judge whether he’s capable of making something out of this team. Surely he’s finishing the season no matter what.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
34,786
Didn’t say we’d fire him midway through next season. I meant it should be enough time by then to analyze and judge whether he’s capable of making something out of this team. Surely he’s finishing the season no matter what.
let's upgrade the team because this is simply insufficient.

anyway, some numbers:


this is still nothing to be proud of.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
RUS thinks Arthur’s best position is mezzala :rofl:
Imagine Arthur trying to outrun his opponent into the box. His shooting is bang average for a midfielder, no power or pace on it. Same goes for passing. What good would he do in more advanced role, I failed to see, but I guess Rus has all the stats to support his claim...

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Our defender, MDL has better shot from distance.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,038
You mean matches at the club that exchanged him for 30 yo Pjanic, that could barely run as well? No tnx.
Google would have helped you to not look like a fool again but you seems to like it
"This isn't a deal to balance the books. It was a sporting decision which we later reached a financial agreement on. We're talking about a player who couldn't renew with Barça on the terms he wanted, he then got a better offer and I explained Barça couldn't match that offer. He decided to leave and that's when a transfer was put in place."


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A mezzala who can’t run, shoot or pass forwards :lol:
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Other than position His only problem is that he became a injury prone player, real shame that we were unable to have healthy Arthur and Ramsey
 
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