Massimiliano Allegri (165 Viewers)

[Hist]

falling for mirror's interpretation read the whole interview, he actually praised pep

Only mention of Pep or pragmatism in the full interview (Google translate) is this:

By now the world of football, professionals and fans, has been divided into two: those who prefer the so-called beautiful game, and those who prefer pragmatism and results. Obviously it's a simplification, we all know that the truth is in the middle, but you too have ended up in the middle of this discussion. How did we get to this endless derby?

It's in fashion, it's fun! Guardiola, who is an extraordinary coach, what did he do? Everyone thinks starting from the bottom, he bought a goalkeeper who throws the ball eighty meters. This is to say that people often let themselves be duped by things that do not exist: in the end there is to win the game. And all matches are not the same, not to mention that there are many different matches within the match: in September the matches are different from March, in March you need calm, the psychological pressures are greater, the points weigh and the ball it becomes smaller and heavier. They are components that the fans rightly do not evaluate from the outside. It takes fewer schemes and more flexibility and pragmatism.

Which Mirror translated as:

"Play well or get results? It’s a nice game, it’s funny! Guardiola is an extraordinary coach, but what has he done?
"Everyone thinks about building from the back, but he has signed a goalkeeper who makes long passes and launches the ball 80 meters away. This is to say that often people are deceived by things that don’t exist. The main thing is you have to win games.


Whats the more charitable interpretation that I am missing? The "Great coach but what has he done?" is not praise. Especially if what follows that is a sarcastic caricature of his tactics.

Here is the full interview: https://www.gqitalia.it/sport/article/massimiliano-allegri-juve-vita-senza-pallone-intervista

Also at the implication that this comes at the expense of winning. Pep won much more and in multiple & superior leagues than Allegri ever will.

Allegri can barely win over half the fan base at Juve & Milan. Pep is the last coach he should criticize. He isnt Sarri

 

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[zizinho]

Only mention of Pep or pragmatism in the full interview (Google translate) is this:

By now the world of football, professionals and fans, has been divided into two: those who prefer the so-called beautiful game, and those who prefer pragmatism and results. Obviously it's a simplification, we all know that the truth is in the middle, but you too have ended up in the middle of this discussion. How did we get to this endless derby?

It's in fashion, it's fun! Guardiola, who is an extraordinary coach, what did he do? Everyone thinks starting from the bottom, he bought a goalkeeper who throws the ball eighty meters. This is to say that people often let themselves be duped by things that do not exist: in the end there is to win the game. And all matches are not the same, not to mention that there are many different matches within the match: in September the matches are different from March, in March you need calm, the psychological pressures are greater, the points weigh and the ball it becomes smaller and heavier. They are components that the fans rightly do not evaluate from the outside. It takes fewer schemes and more flexibility and pragmatism.

Which Mirror translated as:

"Play well or get results? It’s a nice game, it’s funny! Guardiola is an extraordinary coach, but what has he done?
"Everyone thinks about building from the back, but he has signed a goalkeeper who makes long passes and launches the ball 80 meters away. This is to say that often people are deceived by things that don’t exist. The main thing is you have to win games.


Whats the more charitable interpretation that I am missing? The "Great coach but what has he done?" is not praise. Especially if what follows that is a sarcastic caricature of his tactics.

Here is the full interview: https://www.gqitalia.it/sport/article/massimiliano-allegri-juve-vita-senza-pallone-intervista

Also at the implication that this comes at the expense of winning. Pep won much more and in multiple & superior leagues than Allegri ever will.

Allegri can barely win over half the fan base at Juve & Milan. Pep is the last coach he should criticize. He isnt Sarri

You misunderstood what he said

 

[Hist]

You misunderstood what he said

What did he mean to say maybe these are all bad translations? Help me out here.


Play well or get results? It’s a nice game, it’s funny! Guardiola is an extraordinary coach [because of what he has done]. [How does he do it]?
"Everyone thinks [its his secret is just about building from the back], [that] he signed a goalkeeper who makes long passes and launches the ball 80 meters away [but there is much more complexity to his approach than that]. The main thing is you have to win games [and he has been successful using that approach in Spain, Germany and England which is why he is extraordinary].

Surely thats not what he meant to say eh?


The football Italia translation is similar to the previous ones

Play well or get results? It’s a nice game, it’s funny! Guardiola is an extraordinary coach, but what has he done? Everyone thinks about building from the back, but he has signed a goalkeeper who makes long passes and launches the ball 80 meters away,” he said.
“This is to say that often people are deceived by things that don’t exist.
“The main thing is you have to win games. Not all the matches are the same and there are more games inside one. The games in September are not like those in March when there is more pressure and you need more calm. The ball becomes smaller and heavier. We need fewer tactics, more versatility and pragmatism.
“Players must understand and think. I want them to find different solutions when they find a closed door.”


and has this funny stat. Inferiority complex

Allegri has never won a game against the Spanish tactician, collecting three defeats and three draws in six games against him.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I dislike pep as a person but how can anyone say that he's bad coach?! and if anything he's always saying the very same thing again and again - im nothing without my players

 

[s4tch]

...how can anyone say that he's bad coach?! ...

that's the level now?

just for the record, nobody said that pep was a bad coach. i've seen this before: making shit up, refer to that as facts later, and repeat it many, many times hoping that nobody remembers how it started. it's called propaganda and i thought you hated it. don't be that guy.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

that's the level now?

just for the record, nobody said that pep was a bad coach. i've seen this before: making shit up, refer to that as facts later, and repeat it many, many times hoping that nobody remembers how it started. it's called propaganda and i thought you hated it. don't be that guy.

have you seen that article? i was responding to allegri

 

[s4tch]

have you seen that article? i was responding to allegri

i know. and he never said pep was a bad coach, in fact he praised him. so stop the bullshit. thanks.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

i know. and he never said pep was a bad coach, in fact he praised him. so stop the bullshit. thanks.

Play well or get results? It’s a nice game, it’s funny! Guardiola is an extraordinary coach, but what has he done?
Oh , yes, he didn't throw a shadow on him here

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Throw a shadow i gotta say i like that much better than the original

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Allegri fanboys are as deluded as Putin's fanboys unfortunately - you show them white they call it black

 

[s4tch]

Throw a shadow i gotta say i like that much better than the original

this thread is the proof why you need proper education above anything else

i'm out

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

this thread is the proof why you need proper education above anything else

i'm out

Your whole defensive line of Allegri is build on the fact that he won something 3 years ago and before, while we are talking about our CURRENT situation in which he has failed as mofo

 

[s4tch]

Allegri fanboys are as deluded as Putin's fanboys unfortunately - you show them white they call it black

says the blind hater who shat the coach for not playing a suspended player lol

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

says the blind hater who shat the coach for not playing a suspended player lol

No doubt i fucked up without checking that Pellegrini wasn't available but how the can you connect it to the fact that Allegri absolutely bottled this season?

 

[Cerval]

From Agresti

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You've gotta be shitting me

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

From Agresti

@Cronios was right

 

[s4tch]

that's a parody account you bunch of geniuses

watch rus to quote it as gospel lol

 

[GordoDeCentral]

this thread is the proof why you need proper education above anything else

i'm out

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink some people just like to complain like the old man in seinfeld said "life's too short to waste on you"

 

[il brutto]

that's a parody account you bunch of geniuses

watch rus to quote it as gospel lol

Seems legit