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Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,327
Thats why all of things even the detail and smallest things happen as the result fron what they do in training fields

And the programme, player pick, motivating etc is done by coaching team. We don't have attacking combination. Our attack is spray forward and hope it end in the net

This defensive minded coach cant grasp that

You need to watch current big team in Europe and compare, how far we are lagging behind them.

It is no use you buy a player for 80m if the coach can,'tmaximize their output. That is my down point on Allegri (maybe including his coaching team)

For a modern coach 22 shots and ended up being 0 goals is unacceptable, even 3 goals is considered low

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Gusrdiola's City had 19 shots and no goal vs Crystal Palace before the international break.
 

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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
Terrible result considering that Inter is in Free fall, and we are playing at home, but the performance was okay. There is an element of chaos and haste when the team goes forward. Its rushed and panicked rather than methodic and confident. I am glad we are starting to play more offensively but there is still a ways to go.
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,295
Hopefully no complaints about Max preparing/managing tonight. Every statistic ad other than goals was Juve's. Liked the way they played but once again one mental error hurt them. Morata this time but if not him Sandro would have gotten the penalty. Rabiot I thought played well but continually giving Sandro a chance to start is death.

Max really has to consider giving a few youngsters a chance next season. Doesn't appear Juve will have plenty of money to spend so Max needs to coach up some guys. Other than the stupid goals given up, believe defense has done a better job of preventing wide open space counters against them. Only given up 27 so far and if any luck 20+ goal difference could be 30+.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,843
Thats why all of things even the detail and smallest things happen as the result fron what they do in training fields

And the programme, player pick, motivating etc is done by coaching team. We don't have attacking combination. Our attack is spray forward and hope it end in the net

This defensive minded coach cant grasp that

You need to watch current big team in Europe and compare, how far we are lagging behind them.

It is no use you buy a player for 80m if the coach can,'tmaximize their output. That is my down point on Allegri (maybe including his coaching team)

For a modern coach 22 shots and ended up being 0 goals is unacceptable, even 3 goals is considered low

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You blame the missed chances on Allegri?
What a clown.
 

juve_juve_juve

Junior Member
Oct 17, 2005
121
Is it really about luck when it happens so often? Our attack is simply incompetent no matter how good we play and what we create.
3 main problems that plagued this club for long when it comes to attacking :
1. Little to no 1-2 passes that can confuses defenders
2. Little to no dynamic players that can dribble the ball forward to threaten the defenders and force them to make mistakes especially in the middle of the field (and left wing) not just Cuadrado on the right wing.
3. Little to no threatening off the ball movements from our players when attacking that can take advantage from the other 2 points mentioned in the above.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
3 main problems that plagued this club for long when it comes to attacking :
1. Little to no 1-2 passes that can confuses defenders
2. Little to no dynamic players that can dribble the ball forward to threaten the defenders and force them to make mistakes especially in the middle of the field (and left wing) not just Cuadrado on the right wing.
3. Little to no threatening off the ball movements from our players when attacking that can take advantage from the other 2 points mentioned in the above.
Agree to this, this is what I mean the smallest detail that can be coached in training session

You can have 100 shots if you want but without goals just kick that ball hard cant cut it right now

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duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
I think Max did everything right except the subs but considering how bad is our bench. I can easily understand his random thoughts about the subs, and no just this game, almost the entire season
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,185
I was actually impressed with how Allegri fielded the team today. That’s a lot of attacking players, for him. We played pretty well for a while and made some chances, but other than Chiellini’s masterpiece poke over the bar, nothing was really clear cut.

But that’s super great how Allegri finally decided to throw the whole Arsenal at the opposition the past couple games, when we really don’t have anything else to lose. He should have been doing this the entire season, but no, he can’t, because he’s too obsessed with conceding. Maybe that’s why his players can’t score? Surely conceding is more important to him than movement, because many times it’s just stationary shit when other sides sit back.

But this effort is too little, too late for me, and only compounds my opinion that this guy just isn’t comfortable setting up an attacking game. I’m sure we’ll be back to the ridiculously conservative approach next season, you know, once we actually have something to play for again.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
Hopefully no complaints about Max preparing/managing tonight. Every statistic ad other than goals was Juve's. Liked the way they played but once again one mental error hurt them. Morata this time but if not him Sandro would have gotten the penalty. Rabiot I thought played well but continually giving Sandro a chance to start is death.

Max really has to consider giving a few youngsters a chance next season. Doesn't appear Juve will have plenty of money to spend so Max needs to coach up some guys. Other than the stupid goals given up, believe defense has done a better job of preventing wide open space counters against them. Only given up 27 so far and if any luck 20+ goal difference could be 30+.
Max has to consider coaching to a well defined system with a consistent playing style and then tweak from there. When the strikers become accustomed to repeated movements and combinations the chances will feel less like a collective improv and more like a methodical breaking down of defenses and the strikers will have an easier time finishing.

Reduce improvisation, allow muscle memory to do most of the work for wasteful players. Youngsters would be even more lost if we are constantly switching strategy.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
We play pragmatic football and win and the Allegri haters turn up in this thread complaining about his boring football.

We play adventurous, dominate a game and lose and the Allegri haters are back to complain we don’t win.

Substance over style all day long. Yesterday illustrates even further that this group of players doesn’t have the cutting edge to play on the front foot and break teams down the way Man City, Liverpool or Bayern can.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
We play pragmatic football and win and the Allegri haters turn up in this thread complaining about his boring football.

We play adventurous, dominate a game and lose and the Allegri haters are back to complain we don’t win.

Substance over style all day long. Yesterday illustrates even further that this group of players doesn’t have the cutting edge to play on the front foot and break teams down the way Man City, Liverpool or Bayern can.
These teams have a clear idea of football drilled into their players from day 1 and is reflected in their recruitment for years now.

Teams don't suddenly pick up Tiki taka football in one or two matches. They practice it again and again until they get good at it. They build a transfer strategy around it and iterate until it gets really good. Teams that keep switching approaches from one game to the next end up like Ole's United.

We are not any good at pragmatic football judging by how this season has gone. We now play pragmatic football and don't win.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
These teams have a clear idea of football drilled into their players from day 1 and is reflected in their recruitment for years now.

Teams don't suddenly pick up Tiki taka football in one or two matches. They practice it again and again until they get good at it. They build a transfer strategy around it and iterate until it gets really good. Teams that keep switching approaches from one game to the next end up like Ole's United.

We are not any good at pragmatic football judging by how this season has gone. We now play pragmatic football and don't win.
Obviously it needs to be built, but like you said it can’t be built in a season and we do not have the personnel to play front foot. We only have a right side when attacking. Fairly simple for our opponents to stifle us.
We played a year under Sarri trying to play that style and as the season progressed we regressed.

The transfer strategy and constant changes don’t help, that’s why this summer we have to build around Allegri
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
It safe to say that at this point with Pirlo and Sarri the main words were ‘unforgivable mistakes’, no matter what the context was.

I don’t want him gone, but I have to say that not winning a game against the top 4 is really disappointing.
 

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