Massimiliano Allegri (192 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

Loser with 6 Scudetti and 4 Coppa Italias

Not sure how this dude sleeps at night with such loser pedigree.

so? According to this forum Capello is a crap coach and nobody cares about his achievements but somehow Allegri is good coach? He's a bang average coach who was lucky enough to get top squad into his hands, put him in Napoli and he will finish outside of top 4

 

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[s4tch]

the ungrateful retardation just reached some new highs (or rather lows) in this thread

tuz rewriting history again, you gotta love it

edit:
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-811#post-4919737
this is some golden stuff, turk and rus praising allegri

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

the ungrateful retardation just reached some new highs (or rather lows) in this thread

tuz rewriting history again, you gotta love it

edit:
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-811#post-4919737
this is some golden stuff, turk and rus praising allegri

Nah, no one can took away his titles but he didn't win it with Napoli or Roma he had unbelievable Milan and Juventus squads back then. the point is that he stuck in the past and he doesn't evolve and doesn't progress

 

[juve123]

the ungrateful retardation just reached some new highs (or rather lows) in this thread

tuz rewriting history again, you gotta love it

edit:
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-811#post-4919737
this is some golden stuff, turk and rus praising allegri

What a great day everybody praising allegri even Napoleonic who is napoli supporter.But unfortunately our team now consist of medicore players who are grossly overpaid.

 

[Post Ironic]

so? According to this forum Capello is a crap coach and nobody cares about his achievements but somehow Allegri is good coach? He's a bang average coach who was lucky enough to get top squad into his hands, put him in Napoli and he will finish outside of top 4

Congratulations for the dumbest post in the thread. Impressive given the competition

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Congratulations for the dumbest post in the thread. Impressive given the competition

Nah, you just can't accept reality

 

[Post Ironic]

Nah, you just can't accept reality

Nah, it’s pretty clear who cannot accept reality. Allegri is going to go down in history as a legendary Juve coach, one of the best to do it. You whiny babies will bitch and moan tirelessly but it won’t change that. You being delusional about Max’s achievements doesn’t alter reality.

It’s ironic that the people constantly whining like pussies and soyboys about Allegri are the same ones constantly calling him a pussy and a loser. Lol

 

[Van Helsing]

So what plastic fans have a place on this forum some are even defending referee irrati performance last night.

how old are you?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Nah, it’s pretty clear who cannot accept reality. Allegri is going to go down in history as a legendary Juve coach, one of the best to do it. You whiny babies will bitch and moan tirelessly but it won’t change that. You being delusional about Max’s achievements doesn’t alter reality.

It’s ironic that the people constantly whining like pussies and soyboys about Allegri are the same ones constantly calling him a pussy and a loser. Lol

1. Lippi and Trap still clear tho and no, not one of the best to do it overall.
2. I have constructive criticism - he got lost in the formations, the combination of players, he doesn't know how to build a team with attacking football, he doesn't use high pressure, Juventus fullbacks don't have the proper impact on the game, absolutely all players play below their capabilities which is why Bentancur and Kulusevski shine in the EPL but here they both looked like pale shadows of themselves
3. I have no misconceptions about his achievements, I'm just saying that he had super teams and not so strong rivals. For him Juventus management have signed Higuain for 90m, Ronaldo for 110m and now Vlahovic for 75m, name other coach in juventus history who was able to get this many top forwards ? And you telling me that they all were the problem but not Max and his pussy ass football? Right, that's why Higuain has scored 36 goals under Sarri, Ronaldo 29 under Pirlo and Vlahovic has scored 16 in 6 months under Italiano and now he can't do shit under Allegri. And also do you want to tell me that its coincidence that forwards never shine under Allegri's reign? nah.

 

[Vlad]

1. Lippi and Trap still clear tho and no, not one of the best to do it overall.
2. I have constructive criticism - he got lost in the formations, the combination of players, he doesn't know how to build a team with attacking football, he doesn't use high pressure, Juventus fullbacks don't have the proper impact on the game, absolutely all players play below their capabilities which is why Bentancur and Kulusevski shine in the EPL but here they both looked like pale shadows of themselves
3. I have no misconceptions about his achievements, I'm just saying that he had super teams and not so strong rivals. For him Juventus management have signed Higuain for 90m, Ronaldo for 110m and now Vlahovic for 75m, name other coach in juventus history who was able to get this many top forwards ? And you telling me that they all were the problem but not Max and his pussy ass football? Right, that's why Higuain has scored 36 goals under Sarri, Ronaldo 29 under Pirlo and Vlahovic has scored 16 in 6 months under Italiano and now he can't do shit under Allegri. And also do you want to tell me that its coincidence that forwards never shine under Allegri's reign? nah.

So much wrong with this post. Our forwards never shine under Allegri? Dybala has had the best moments of his career under Max between 2015-2018. Until he started to get injured and moody. Higuain for 2 seasons. Even when he came here overweight in his 1st season he was doing great.

Yes, Max is a legend, whether some of u like it or not. Apart from Trap and Lippi, no other coach has had as much success. Ultimately his status will be measured by trophies he has won.

 

[Mike-e-y]

The current style is neither of those

Current style is subjective, but what’s clear and has been prevalent in the games since early season is that we have focussed on counter attacking moves and have been a team that refrains from pressing high preferring to remain structured rather than using high intensity presses. People tend to refer to that as pragmatic.

the games where we’ve gone against that - Villarreal and Inter have been the ones we’ve lost. In those games our opponents have adopted our current style

 

[Vlad]

Nah, it’s pretty clear who cannot accept reality. Allegri is going to go down in history as a legendary Juve coach, one of the best to do it. You whiny babies will bitch and moan tirelessly but it won’t change that. You being delusional about Max’s achievements doesn’t alter reality.

It’s ironic that the people constantly whining like pussies and soyboys about Allegri are the same ones constantly calling him a pussy and a loser. Lol

It is like some of them have weird personal vendetta so they need to contantly rewritte the history. Not a single one of them thought we had a great team back in 2015. Especially since the same team under different coach failed spectacularly only a season before, crashed in CL groups, humiliated against 10 men Benfica. Do I think Conte was a poor coach? Not at all and I wont take anything away from him and the amazing 2011/12 season. You wont find many posts of that era where fans expected us to reach final or to progress to later CL rounds. Then another rebuilt in 2017, with Khedira, who most of the fans mocked, and Pjanic in the middle, Mandzukic as a LW, chubby Higuain as forward. Maybe Max was at fault for Higuain showing at training camp at least 10 kilos heavier than when he left Napoli...

So called Allegri throaters can accept that we arent doing well this year and that over the course of the season he has made some terrible moves, mostly concerning ill timed subs, his insistance to play Rabiot is baffling. His options on the bench though are underwhelming and this team lacks so much in most areas, our fullbacks are 2nd rate. Departure of CR hurt us in the opening rounds as well. He ll get another season with Scudetto as a clear objective. I have no issue moving on from Allegri if he fails again. But few of them will repeat the same story, no matter the outcome.

 

[Van Helsing]

It is like some of them have weird personal vendetta so they need to contantly rewritte the history. Not a single one of them thought we had a great team back in 2015. Especially since the same team under different coach failed spectacularly only a season before, crashed in CL groups, humiliated against 10 men Benfica. Do I think Conte was a poor coach? Not at all and I wont take anything away from him and the amazing 2011/12 season. You wont find many posts of that era where fans expected us to reach final or to progress to later CL rounds. Then another rebuilt in 2017, with Khedira, who most of the fans mocked, and Pjanic in the middle, Mandzukic as a LW, chubby Higuain as forward. Maybe Max was at fault for Higuain showing at training camp at least 10 kilos heavier than when he left Napoli...

So called Allegri throaters can accept that we arent doing well this year and that over the course of the season he has made some terrible moves, mostly concerning ill timed subs, his insistance to play Rabiot is baffling. His options on the bench though are underwhelming and this team lacks so much in most areas, our fullbacks are 2nd rate. Departure of CR hurt us in the opening rounds as well. He ll get another season with Scudetto as a clear objective. I have no issue moving on from Allegri if he fails again. But few of them will repeat the same story, no matter the outcome.

why you didn't mention Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini? Licht?2015 Dani Alves?2017 best GK and best defence in the world? just you're saying the weak sides to cover your Allegri love.

 

[Post Ironic]

1. Lippi and Trap still clear tho and no, not one of the best to do it overall.
2. I have constructive criticism - he got lost in the formations, the combination of players, he doesn't know how to build a team with attacking football, he doesn't use high pressure, Juventus fullbacks don't have the proper impact on the game, absolutely all players play below their capabilities which is why Bentancur and Kulusevski shine in the EPL but here they both looked like pale shadows of themselves
3. I have no misconceptions about his achievements, I'm just saying that he had super teams and not so strong rivals. For him Juventus management have signed Higuain for 90m, Ronaldo for 110m and now Vlahovic for 75m, name other coach in juventus history who was able to get this many top forwards ? And you telling me that they all were the problem but not Max and his pussy ass football? Right, that's why Higuain has scored 36 goals under Sarri, Ronaldo 29 under Pirlo and Vlahovic has scored 16 in 6 months under Italiano and now he can't do shit under Allegri. And also do you want to tell me that its coincidence that forwards never shine under Allegri's reign? nah.

You said he’s a pussy ass, bang average coach. By saying so you are denying his achievements and being a complete moron about it. And you’re wrong. And historically you will be wrong too. Simple as that. Allegri was winning 90+ pt domestic doubles and taking Juve back to CL finals for the first time in over a decade, and post-calciopoli. As nowhere near the strongest team in Europe or financially anywhere close. He was doing this coaching teams built with a couple big signings and a bunch of market opportunities.

Anyways, last I respond to you in this thread. Max may very well turn out to be washed up over the next 2-3 years here, but that doesn’t change anything about his legendary status as a Juve coach. So don’t be a retarded revisionist.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You said he’s a pussy ass, bang average coach. By saying so you are denying his achievements and being a complete moron about it. And you’re wrong. And historically you will be wrong too. Simple as that. Allegri was winning 90+ pt domestic doubles and taking Juve back to CL finals for the first time in over a decade, and post-calciopoli. As nowhere near the strongest team in Europe or financially anywhere close. He was doing this coaching teams built with a couple big signings and a bunch of market opportunities.

Anyways, last I respond to you in this thread. Max may very well turn out to be washed up over the next 2-3 years here, but that doesn’t change anything about his legendary status as a Juve coach. So don’t be a retarded revisionist.

You still didn't answer - which coach of Juventus have been giving a list of forwards like this - Dybala 40m, Higuain 90m, Ronaldo 110m, Vlahovic 75m?
As for financial aspect - juventus is on 11th place by the Forbes valuation
https://www.forbes.com/teams/juventus/?sh=78b2b4837f14

 

[Post Ironic]

It is like some of them have weird personal vendetta so they need to contantly rewritte the history. Not a single one of them thought we had a great team back in 2015. Especially since the same team under different coach failed spectacularly only a season before, crashed in CL groups, humiliated against 10 men Benfica. Do I think Conte was a poor coach? Not at all and I wont take anything away from him and the amazing 2011/12 season. You wont find many posts of that era where fans expected us to reach final or to progress to later CL rounds. Then another rebuilt in 2017, with Khedira, who most of the fans mocked, and Pjanic in the middle, Mandzukic as a LW, chubby Higuain as forward. Maybe Max was at fault for Higuain showing at training camp at least 10 kilos heavier than when he left Napoli...

So called Allegri throaters can accept that we arent doing well this year and that over the course of the season he has made some terrible moves, mostly concerning ill timed subs, his insistance to play Rabiot is baffling. His options on the bench though are underwhelming and this team lacks so much in most areas, our fullbacks are 2nd rate. Departure of CR hurt us in the opening rounds as well. He ll get another season with Scudetto as a clear objective. I have no issue moving on from Allegri if he fails again. But few of them will repeat the same story, no matter the outcome.

I distinctly remember arguing with Xperd and others post-Benfica about the strength of our team. He was saying that we were just overrating our players and team and we were actually a Benfica/Galatasaray level team, not some top level team. I said we underperformed in Europe that year and lacked ruthlessness in front of goal. Allegri comes in and all of a sudden we’re the 2nd best team in Europe 2 of the next 3 seasons. If these clowns want to act like Allegri did nothing special in his first stint here, there’s no helping them. Lost souls.

 

[Vlad]

why you didn't mention Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini? Licht?2015 Dani Alves?2017 best GK and best defence in the world? just you're saying the weak sides to cover your Allegri love.

they didnt play a season before?

 

[Post Ironic]

You still didn't answer - which coach of Juventus have been giving a list of forwards like this - Dybala 40m, Higuain 90m, Ronaldo 110m, Vlahovic 75m?
As for financial aspect - juventus is on 11th place by the Forbes valuation
https://www.forbes.com/teams/juventus/?sh=78b2b4837f14

11th place and was the second best team in Europe for 2 of his first 3 seasons. Seems like overperforming to me.

Sarri had all of Ronaldo, Dybala, Higuain in his season here plus was bought 75 mil De Ligt and 30 mil Demiral and scraped scudetto with 83 pts, +34 goal differential, and CL Rof16 exit to 7th place Ligue 1 side Lyon. -7 pts, -6 goal differential, and a round earlier exit in CL to a far worse team.

And you think he was a success and deserved another year, but call Allegri bang average and say he did nothing special

 

[Vlad]

I distinctly remember arguing with Xperd and others post-Benfica about the strength of our team. He was saying that we were just overrating our players and team and we were actually a Benfica/Galatasaray level team, not some top level team. I said we underperformed in Europe that year and lacked ruthlessness in front of goal. Allegri comes in and all of a sudden we’re the 2nd best team in Europe 2 of the next 3 seasons. If these clowns want to act like Allegri did nothing special in his first stint here, there’s no helping them. Lost souls.

The general vibe here was that our team back then was average compared to other European heavy weights. I recall we were mocked for saying Juve can match all those teams...

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

11th place and was the second best team in Europe for 2 of his first 3 seasons. Seems like overperforming to me.

Sarri had all of Ronaldo, Dybala, Higuain in his season here plus was bought 75 mil De Ligt and 30 mil Demiral and scraped scudetto with 83 pts, +34 goal differential, and CL Rof16 exit to 7th place Ligue 1 side Lyon. -7 pts, -6 goal differential, and a round earlier exit in CL to a far worse team.

And you think he was a success and deserved another year

I've said that he needed a 2nd season, COVID has ruined many things that year and it was a rebuilding process, Sarri had a lot of job to do.
Higuain 90m, De Ligt 85m, Ronaldo 110m, Vlahovic 75m, 95% of other clubs can only dream of transfers like this.