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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
This would make jager's day after the materclass performance by conte team versus wolves.
Jager making every excuse in the book for Conte getting dominated and losing 3 straight in the league, two of them to mediocre Southampton and Wolverhampton, outscored 7-2 in those matches lol. Yet here he is, camping out in this thread, bitching after every single match during our current 11 match league unbeaten streak.

Could we be doing better? Certainly. Are we doing far better than we were 3 months ago. Absolutely. Clear signs of improvement month by month. But that doesn’t suit his narrative so he bitches and moans tirelessly about the most pedantic things.
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
Based on what? He is our 3rd most successful coach of all time.
Have we ever played good football with him? Yes we got to the CL final twice, I haven’t forgotten that.. but look at our squad back then. Especially the midfield was insanely good. Still, his last year with us was an absolute disaster and everybody wanted to get rid of him, and rightfully so. We play(ed) negative football that will never win us a trophy in Europe. We go into these games, just like in the CL finals, with the mentality that we have to play safe. Don’t concede. Absolut garbage mentality. I haven’t missed Allegri football one bit and going back to that was a huge failure in my eyes. Yes Sarri (Never wanted him) and Pirlo (what do you expect from a novice coach; still liked those games more than Allegri games^^) didn’t work out, but what were they supposed to do with that shitty team? The idea was to finally modernize our game, so that we can actually win something. It’s just so shortsighted to think ‚well this didn’t work’ and go back to what brought us some kind of success. Allegri didn’t do any better this year. We have scored less goals than fucking Empoli. I don’t know about you but this year, up until the winter mercato, was the least exciting Juventus in the last 10 years. Didn’t even have the drive to watch the games most of the time. And you wonder why the stadium is empty. And yes, I know there are other issues as well…

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We always had loser mentality with him. It’s instilled in the team. Why do u think we play like the biggest pussies in finals…
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,816
Have we ever played good football with him? Yes we got to the CL final twice, I haven’t forgotten that.. but look at our squad back then. Especially the midfield was insanely good. Still, his last year with us was an absolute disaster and everybody wanted to get rid of him, and rightfully so. We play(ed) negative football that will never win us a trophy in Europe. We go into these games, just like in the CL finals, with the mentality that we have to play safe. Don’t concede. Absolut garbage mentality. I haven’t missed Allegri football one bit and going back to that was a huge failure in my eyes. Yes Sarri (Never wanted him) and Pirlo (what do you expect from a novice coach; still liked those games more than Allegri games^^) didn’t work out, but what were they supposed to do with that shitty team? The idea was to finally modernize our game, so that we can actually win something. It’s just so shortsighted to think ‚well this didn’t work’ and go back to what brought us some kind of success. Allegri didn’t do any better this year. We have scored less goals than fucking Empoli. I don’t know about you but this year, up until the winter mercato, was the least exciting Juventus in the last 10 years. Didn’t even have the drive to watch the games most of the time. And you wonder why the stadium is empty. And yes, I know there are other issues as well…

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We always had loser mentality with him. It’s instilled in the team. Why do u think we play like the biggest pussies in finals…
You're an idiot if you think the coach with 11 trophies with Juve has a loser mentality.
Also, our highest scoring season in 60 years was under Allegri, in 2017-18, so your 'boring football' argument is also meaningless.
And also, for the 'insanely good midfield', he only had that midfield for a year. He had to rebuild our entire team in 2015 and 2016, and still reached the CL final just a year later.

Yeah, he hasn't set the world alight since his return, but our squad was a shitshow, especially after Ronaldo left. The Chiesa injury didn't help either.
What is undeniable is that he has made us defensively solid again after two years of kamikaze defending under Sarri and Pirlo. And yes, now that we have Vlahovic, I do demand that we score more goals. We are a work in progress, and the progress from late October is there for everyone to see.
 
Sep 13, 2015
446
In order to play 'good' football, you need to have good players first that would match the philosophy and tactics of the manager.

Do you honestly believe that Guardiola or Klopp would play much better football with the current players that we have? Go ahead and try playing tiki-taka with Rabiot and Bernardeshi's first touch. Or ask Morata to play the perfect killer ball to Vlahovich under pressure. Maybe even try playing Sandro as an inverted wingback to unleash Zakaria as a mezzala like DeBruyne and score 15 goals a season.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
In order to play 'good' football, you need to have good players first that would match the philosophy and tactics of the manager.

Do you honestly believe that Guardiola or Klopp would play much better football with the current players that we have? Go ahead and try playing tiki-taka with Rabiot and Bernardeshi's first touch. Or ask Morata to play the perfect killer ball to Vlahovich under pressure. Maybe even try playing Sandro as an inverted wingback to unleash Zakaria as a mezzala like DeBruyne and score 15 goals a season.
Agreed need more giraffes for a more balanced jj lakers then we can talk
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Cannot blame him for the result tonight honestly. Good starting 11, good game overall, should have scored a couple more goals etc.

But what is absolutely shocking all season are his subs. From something that was one of the biggest strengths to a situation where he's basically making every next sub to fix the shitshow he created with the one before. Doesn't help that he leaves them so fucking late every time and then panics with trying to change too much too fast.
Cannot have said it better. His subs are the shit of comedy.

To be a little fair with allegri, the forwards failed once again gazzilion chances after many scoring opplrtunities, thats on them.

The game manage from allegri needs to I. Probé, we play 20 mins and then thw shitshow begins. If we dont score in that windpw, we are in for a ride.

Something is weird with allegri second spell, his subs and starting eleven is weird as fuck.

Why he doesnt rested the main starters in a meaningless copa game is beyond me.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Ssst, don't tell @IlCapitano

I think opted to leave Arthur out because of the physicality of Atalanta. Zakaria needed a rest according to Max.
Why?

As I said I am fine with someone like FDJ coming and playing that role, I am fine with Locatelli in either role because he can play both.

What annoys me is people pretending he is awful and sacrificed and absolutely cannot play what he plays now to the point they're desperate to have bums like Arthur in there to "fix" something.

Guess the same people who think Pjanić was ruined playing DM because he was statisticslly less prominent.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Just shut up already. I get that there are different opinions but how delusional do you have to be to think that a coach who won for 5 years straight with us and brought us back to being one of the top 3 teams in Europe has a “loser mentality”.
The only manager in Europe's top 5 leagues history to win a domestic double 4 times in a row is a loser :sarcasm2:
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
So after all of these years we still not learning how to anticipate and mark Malinovsky. Our coaches are clueless about him
The last resort is to buy him and put him in the bench forever
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
The only manager in Europe's top 5 leagues history to win a domestic double 4 times in a row is a loser :sarcasm2:
Horrible negative Allegri football. Amazing that this horrible negative football was the only one that beat Madrid in Europe and stopped them winning 5 straight CL titles. Or that this loser has a 12 wins - 6 draws - 6 losses record in CL knockouts rounds and finals against the best teams in Europe. The 6 losses coming against Madrid x2, Bayern x1, Barca x1, Atletico x1, Ajax. Aside from Ajax only ever lost to the biggest teams on the continent, that have won or played in multiple CL finals over the past decade. And managed to beat all these teams too aside from Bayern (which would have been a win if the ref doesn’t call Morata’s legit goal offside lol).

What a loser coach! Street!

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So after all of these years we still not learning how to anticipate and mark Malinovsky. Our coaches are clueless about him
The last resort is to buy him and put him in the bench forever
Did you not watch the game? It was from a free kick. You can’t mark where the taker touched the ball to for him to blast it. Ya know, the ten yards back line. Try harder next time. :lol:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
Have we ever played good football with him? Yes we got to the CL final twice, I haven’t forgotten that.. but look at our squad back then. Especially the midfield was insanely good. Still, his last year with us was an absolute disaster and everybody wanted to get rid of him, and rightfully so. We play(ed) negative football that will never win us a trophy in Europe. We go into these games, just like in the CL finals, with the mentality that we have to play safe. Don’t concede. Absolut garbage mentality. I haven’t missed Allegri football one bit and going back to that was a huge failure in my eyes. Yes Sarri (Never wanted him) and Pirlo (what do you expect from a novice coach; still liked those games more than Allegri games^^) didn’t work out, but what were they supposed to do with that shitty team? The idea was to finally modernize our game, so that we can actually win something. It’s just so shortsighted to think ‚well this didn’t work’ and go back to what brought us some kind of success. Allegri didn’t do any better this year. We have scored less goals than fucking Empoli. I don’t know about you but this year, up until the winter mercato, was the least exciting Juventus in the last 10 years. Didn’t even have the drive to watch the games most of the time. And you wonder why the stadium is empty. And yes, I know there are other issues as well…

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We always had loser mentality with him. It’s instilled in the team. Why do u think we play like the biggest pussies in finals…
Stopped reading :rofl:
 

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