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juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,700
Chiesa literally has the same number of goals he had last season at this point. And 3 assists less but that is easily explained by no Ronaldo.

He had 1-1 with the GK today, what did he do? Time for everyone to take accountability for their part
The entire forward line is useless Morata and Dybala won't score many goals this season this is my main concern with Allegri that he keeps persisting with Morata and rabiot who are totally useless
 

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IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
5,614
He changed teams from weaker to stronger but he didn't build a squad. He failed with weaker team at Milan just like he's failing here at the moment. He was amazing for us, but back then we had monster midfield which even Pirlo would use to his advantage.
He had only 3 same players in the starting 11 between 15' and 17'.

Building a squad doesn't mean just buying players but improving the current ones too.

This doesn't have to be philosophical. Any winning coach can work in any environment if he is supported and has good recruitment. Allegri doesn't have to invent hot water here, get him 10 new players (which has to be done with any coach even if Allegri is fired) and let him work.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,251
He had the MVPP midfield for one season, and then we dismantled it over the next two and Marchisio had career ending injuries basically.

100% agree on Pjanic. And Khedira, while he was never going to be star, he was a very intelligent, solid kid who didn’t make mistakes. We could definitely use capable replacements for both.
Oh yeah, Pogba too.

Sure, but it's important to mention that he also had possibly the best defender in Europe, Barzagli, while he also had Lichtsteiner and young Chiellini. Upfront he had Mandzukic who was on fire and Higuain who, despite being shit sometimes, did bang in tons of goals. There was plenty of quality in that squad eventhough that mid was fragile as fuck.

I don't think Allegri is capable of building a squad. I'm afraid we brought a great coach at the wrong time. He will work better in a couple of years and once we spend another 200-300mln, yeah, but imo other coach would achieve more even with this squad. People may dislike him, I don't really care, but Conte is a good example of somebody we need(ed) at this point.

Oh well... At least I hope we sign Zakaria in January and not Witsel.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,251
Building a squad doesn't mean just buying players but improving the current ones too.
Agreed. Then why he made our players WORSE than they were?

This doesn't have to be philosophical. Any winning coach can work in any environment if he is supported and has good recruitment. Allegri doesn't have to invent hot water here, get him 10 new players (which has to be done with any coach even if Allegri is fired) and let him work.
:lol2:
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,538
I still don't understand why we aren't playing a 4 3 3.

Danilo de ligt chiello/bonbon mds/Pellegrini/sandro

Loca
Benta. Mckennie(to cover for chiesa)

Cuads. Chiesa(free role, no defensive duies

Morata/dybala

I mean what do you gain by playing rabiot out there or this morata/dybala duo.
I didn't see a single combination between them. Morata is weak and so is dybala. They can't play off each other.
It should be clear by now.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,461
I can't see any way out of this form.

I still can't see a system that works with this squad other than what we are playing and it is horrible. We have 1 capable central midfielder and no CF, you can't compete like that.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
There should be at least consensus that Agnelli is liable, given he appointed the coach.

Criticizing the coach's choices is understandable but what kind of retard would say everything is his fault. This team is not professional. The management is clueless.
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
I don't think Allegri is capable of building a squad. I'm afraid we brought a great coach at the wrong time. He will work better in a couple of years and once we spend another 200-300mln, yeah, but imo other coach would achieve more even with this squad. People may dislike him, I don't really care, but Conte is a good example of somebody we need(ed) at this point.
Conte left us in 2014 because he was unhappy with the quality of the squad and Allegri won a double and reached CL final... Vidal, Pirlo and the rock solid defense were fundamental for his first season here. Now Conte will have to coach mediocre overrated players with impotent attack no midfield and questionable defense. I'm not so sure that he would do any better.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,700
There should be at least consensus that Agnelli is liable, given he appointed the coach.

Criticizing the coach's choices is understandable but what kind of retard would say everything is his fault.
Everyone has their own responsibility players coaches and the management but once the winning cycle is over it takes time and patience to start a new cycle
 

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