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Folks here have really lost their minds calling for Sarri or Pirlo to replace him.
Sarri was awful. We won that Scudetto due to world class form, individual brilliance, from Dybala and CR7, and cause Covid killed Lazio, not because the team ever looked good or played well lol.
Imagine Sarri with the current squad
Sarri was awful. We won that Scudetto due to world class form, individual brilliance, from Dybala and CR7, and cause Covid killed Lazio, not because the team ever looked good or played well lol.
Imagine Sarri with the current squad
The funny thing is 4-3-3 Allegri is superior to 4-3-3 Sarri and that is insanely obvious to everyone except Allegri. So what do.
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Do you remember matches like this where the opponent never touched the ball? Our midfield was Matuidi (MLS), Bentancur regista and Ramsey. We had a Gremio winger, Costa. We had MLS striker, Higuain. Opponent never touched the ball.
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Folks here have really lost their minds calling for Sarri or Pirlo to replace him.
Sarri was awful. We won that Scudetto due to world class form, individual brilliance, from Dybala and CR7, and cause Covid killed Lazio, not because the team ever looked good or played well lol.
Imagine Sarri with the current squad
Sarri was awful. We won that Scudetto due to world class form, individual brilliance, from Dybala and CR7, and cause Covid killed Lazio, not because the team ever looked good or played well lol.
Imagine Sarri with the current squad
Sarriboiz bash Allegri’s 2018-19 season with 90 pts (on pace for 102 pts before the last 5 games that were meaningless), and a CL QFs exit to Ajax.
Then turn around and act like Sarri had a better season scraping scudetto with 83 pts, most goals conceded of the era, worst goal differential, crashing out of CL Rof16 to 7th place in Ligue 1 Lyon. And that’s after management brought in De Ligt, Demiral, etc for him.
Then turn around and act like Sarri had a better season scraping scudetto with 83 pts, most goals conceded of the era, worst goal differential, crashing out of CL Rof16 to 7th place in Ligue 1 Lyon. And that’s after management brought in De Ligt, Demiral, etc for him.
I don’t really care what formation we play. Allegri’s fucking up this season because he’s tinkering and moving players out of position too much. Not because he isn’t playing a formation you are obsessed with. We’d be better playing 4-2-3-1 also. With Dybala in the hole behind a striker and Cuadrado and Chiesa on the wings. We’d be better playing 3-5-2. Our 4-4-2 would be better with Kulu/Chiesa/Cuadrado as the wide mids in it, instead of out of position midfielders. Allegri is just making poor line-up choices. In part due to poor squad quality, in part due to injuries, and in large part due to his weird ass tinkering.
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about cherry-picking that match for Sarri. Let’s check out the two embarrassing 3-1 losses to Lazio in a period of a few weeks. Where he literally didn’t adapt in the slightest between causing us to get hammered again. Or the Lyon debacle. Etc. Sarri had a very good first few months at the club, when the mentality of the Allegri era was still there combined with some fresh ideas of his. Then he had a near disastrous last few months and got sacked for it.
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about cherry-picking that match for Sarri. Let’s check out the two embarrassing 3-1 losses to Lazio in a period of a few weeks. Where he literally didn’t adapt in the slightest between causing us to get hammered again. Or the Lyon debacle. Etc. Sarri had a very good first few months at the club, when the mentality of the Allegri era was still there combined with some fresh ideas of his. Then he had a near disastrous last few months and got sacked for it.It's not about Sarri. Nobody wants Sarri back. It just so happens that he was in charge for the example I listed. It's the argument that the coach does nothing. Which is a stupid argument. Of course, the coach matters. If a midfield of Matuidi-Bentancur-Ramsey can work then others can work.
So the choice of tactics matter. People are talking like we could put 12 players on the field and we'd still lose. It's madness.
Again, Chelsea went from Lampard to Tuchel and suddenly their squad became "good". Every time Allegri changes from 2 strikers to 1, our opponent cannot register a shot. Now his new obsession is to turn Chiesa into a striker and play with his back to goal, JUST to maintain a 2 striker formation. And that's a big concern.
So the choice of tactics matter. People are talking like we could put 12 players on the field and we'd still lose. It's madness.
Again, Chelsea went from Lampard to Tuchel and suddenly their squad became "good". Every time Allegri changes from 2 strikers to 1, our opponent cannot register a shot. Now his new obsession is to turn Chiesa into a striker and play with his back to goal, JUST to maintain a 2 striker formation. And that's a big concern.
Both us and Atletico went to multiple CL finals, Atletico won La Liga as massive underdogs, while playing other formations. Atletico did it while playing the “hated” 4-4-2.
Even Zidane’s Madrid often played other formations. Cardiff final is a good example. They played 4-3-1-2. Isco behind Ronaldo-Benzema.
Even Zidane’s Madrid often played other formations. Cardiff final is a good example. They played 4-3-1-2. Isco behind Ronaldo-Benzema.
That Madrid could win with any formation, surely.
The fundamental problem is one striker vs. two, in this particular club. If Dybala and Morata run like Atletico strikers, there is no problem. If you defend with only 8 men in your own box all match, then there is a problem. That should be plain to see. Our CMs are not Marchisio, Vidal and Pogba. They can't compensate for 2 strikers who do not help.
There's no counter argument so far against Allegri's one striker formation. We're formidable with it.
Pick 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1 or whatever.
The ultimate point is that the squad is not this bad.
The fundamental problem is one striker vs. two, in this particular club. If Dybala and Morata run like Atletico strikers, there is no problem. If you defend with only 8 men in your own box all match, then there is a problem. That should be plain to see. Our CMs are not Marchisio, Vidal and Pogba. They can't compensate for 2 strikers who do not help.
There's no counter argument so far against Allegri's one striker formation. We're formidable with it.
Pick 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1 or whatever.
The ultimate point is that the squad is not this bad.
Yep and last seasons winner Chelsea played 3-4-3 while Bayern played 4-2-3-1 the year before when they won it. Also these numerical formations don't tell the whole story anyways. For example PSG currently play a 4-3-3 but they field three forwards that do very little defending so it's completely different to a normal 4-3-3 with actual wingers that defend their flank.
Speaking about our formation under Sarri, it wasn't really a full on 4-3-3 either. It was actually pretty much the same formation we play this season with Matuidi playing the role Rabiot plays now. Ronaldo didn't actually play as a winger he had a free role similar to what Dybala has now.
Speaking about our formation under Sarri, it wasn't really a full on 4-3-3 either. It was actually pretty much the same formation we play this season with Matuidi playing the role Rabiot plays now. Ronaldo didn't actually play as a winger he had a free role similar to what Dybala has now.
Even then many teams that play a 4-3-3 on paper still have players that don't do much defending occupying one or even both of those flanks. For example a 4-3-3 with Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe or the likes playing wide isn't really a pure 4-3-3.
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That is true. It was either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-3/4-4-2 hybrid.
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That is true. It was either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-3-3/4-4-2 hybrid.
And already Poch wants to balance that formation and is getting backlash because he knows you cannot defend with 7 players. Even 8 is extremely difficult nowadays. And that's what we're trying. Over and over and over.
Morata splits their CBs, fine. Lots of teams do that. Then our SS whether it's Chiesa or Dybala marks no one. Just walks around. Opponent passes to the wing. Our midfield 4 shifts and is outnumbered 4 vs. 5. They then spend the next phase chasing the ball at the top of our box. We will eventually pinch it but we're so far back that there is no chance of a counter. There is no chance that Rabiot, Benta and co. have the talent or skill to counter from there.
We punt it to the 2 strikers and walk up the pitch. They lose it. Rinse and repeat.
If you have animals across your midfield 4 then fine. Vidal runs and collects the ball himself and you go from there. We don't have that. It's non-sensical. Look how deep we have to defend.
Morata splits their CBs, fine. Lots of teams do that. Then our SS whether it's Chiesa or Dybala marks no one. Just walks around. Opponent passes to the wing. Our midfield 4 shifts and is outnumbered 4 vs. 5. They then spend the next phase chasing the ball at the top of our box. We will eventually pinch it but we're so far back that there is no chance of a counter. There is no chance that Rabiot, Benta and co. have the talent or skill to counter from there.
We punt it to the 2 strikers and walk up the pitch. They lose it. Rinse and repeat.
If you have animals across your midfield 4 then fine. Vidal runs and collects the ball himself and you go from there. We don't have that. It's non-sensical. Look how deep we have to defend.
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